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Support the National Healthcare Act Proposal!

Anchova
05-01-2007, 19:34
Attention all delegates!

The National Healthcare Act is currently in proposals and needs your support! We must care for our worst off citizens, and this act ensures the system is not taken advantage of!

Approve the NHA Proposal now!!!

Click here to automatically approve the National Healthcare Act!! (http://www.nationstates.net/26498/page=UN_proposal/proposal=3/vote=for/start=0)
Yelda
05-01-2007, 19:42
It is best to include the text of your proposal.
National Healthcare Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Anchova

Description:
UNDERSTANDING the plight of those who cannot afford comprehensive healthcare;

REALIZING that universal health care situations are often taken advantage of, exploited, and cheated by those less needy;

RATIONING that a compromise is needed, if we as civilized persons are to treat our worst off citizens without being taken advantage of;

DECLARE:


Preamble

This bill provides free basic health care to all citizens, promotes health education and healthy lifestyles, and guarantees individuals their right to choose one’s own health care provider.

Clause 1: Vaccinations, emergency operations, medications, care for recurring illnesses and permanent disabilities, and health care education shall be fully funded by individual national governments; nations must provide these basic services for their citizens.

Section a: All non-emergency operations, defined as a surgical procedure which is not required to save the life, mobility, or basic life functions of the patient (i.e. cosmetic surgery which does not correct a malformation), will not require funding from the national government.

Section b: To prevent abuse of the health care system, and to promote healthy lifestyle choices, routine visits to a health care provider (i.e. basic physical exams or out-patient procedures) will be limited to four doctor’s visits a year being funded by national governments. Additional visits will be paid for by the patient or by his/her health insurance.

Section c: Those who are declared permanently impaired, suffering from a recurring illness, are over 70+, or face medical problems which disallow them to retain employment are exempt from Section b. An individual public insurance adjuster will declare the health care provider visit allowance in these situations.

Section d: No government shall make no restrictions in regard to an individual’s right to choose a health care provider.

Clause 2: In order to pay for health care that is not covered by the local governments, citizens are to be able to take out private health care in addition to the state health provisions.

Section a: Private health insurers shall not deny coverage to any person based on their choice of health care provider, or on the basis of a pre-existing, persistent medical condition.

Section b: Full-time employers shall pay at least 30% of their employees’ private health insurance costs.

Section c: Individuals who are unemployed or employed part time and are physically able to work will have 30% of their health insurance costs reimbursed by the local regional government for 6 months.

Clause 3: Medical schools will be founded in each nation, drawing on a fund from both national government, regional government, and private enterprise. The mission of these schools will be to perform research to discover new methods of medical treatment and illness prevention.

Clause 4: There will be campaigns to promote healthier living. Said campaigns will be funded fully by regional governments, and the content shall be decided by the national governments.

Clause 5: Any region or nation retains the right to exceed the standards mentioned in this bill.
Anchova
05-01-2007, 19:44
Oops. Thank You!
Havvy
06-01-2007, 00:41
The nation of Havvy can not vote for this resolution.

1. You expect all UN nations to build schools for doctors. Well, not every UN member wants to build a big school for doctors or even has money for it.

2. Why should the government be in the hands of the government? I mean sure, I personally find it better than them being privatized, but still. There are nations which would do very well with privatized hospitals. Heck, take a look at the nation I am delegate for. Havvy has THREE different competing businesses for hospitals. We have a very low death rate, but the prices are a little big.

3. The counter-argument for 2 is that now all nations have companies, and as such, would not be able to pay for these visits. Why not instead of making insurance mandatory for all nations in the UN? I again, although my national leader doesn't think so, think that insurance should not be necessary. A better solution would be (since you are trying to make health care nasalized) to lower the amount of money you need to make the visits to hospitals, and make the basic services free for all the people.

Still though, we will not vote for a resolution asking for the health care to be for government or for industry, as that is the right of the national leader.
Flibbleites
06-01-2007, 05:42
WARNING! NatSov related rant ahead.

The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites cannot support this proposal. The UN is an international organization. This proposal deals solely with an intranational issue and as an international organization the UN has no business messing with the internal affairs of its members.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
Hentainova
06-01-2007, 17:37
From the office of High Governor Scraps:

"However, gentlemen...The duty of a nation is to take care of it's people. A nation is not it's corporations, it's tall buildings, or even it's government. It's it's people. And if you don't keep the people healthy, wealthy, and wise, then what are you doign besides herding sheep?

I approve and endorse this matter of healthcare. My reasons stand.

Sincerely,
Doctor Scraps."
Commonalitarianism
06-01-2007, 18:01
A nation also needs to take care of its economy. The last six pieces of legislation have been aimed at giving government subsidies to people without building trade. This effectively bankrupts government. Please take the time to look at the history of legislation being proposed. This is why this legislation will fail. Failure to both put food on the table (economic policy) and provide supports (social programs) at the same time leads to collapse of a nations economy. I have watched under the auspices of the United Nations as my economy went from a powerhouse to a very strong economy. I do not want societal collapse. Spreading benefits at the expense of at this point basic necessities, we have gone from owning to cars in each household to motorcyles in each household and delivery trucks provide by industry when large deliveries are needed. Also house size has shrunk and the ability to pay for medical expenses even if nationalized would be on a ration system.

Regards,

Rex Smiley.
Altanar
07-01-2007, 03:16
While we agree that healthcare is essential (and provide national healthcare for our less fortunate at home), Altanar regretfully could not support this proposal. Not every nation can afford such a system, or would find it desirable. We also feel that healthcare is inherently a national concern. We applaud the author for their efforts, however.

- Jaris Krytellin, Ambassador
Brutland and Norden
07-01-2007, 14:59
While the Kingdom of Brutland and Norden and its representative personally support the principle of this proposal, sadly we do not approve of this resolution. We would like to point out an RL text, whose message we would like to convey. We know we should restate this, but we could not have said it better than the text:

The realization of human rights, including the right to health, neither requires nor precludes any particular form of government or economic system. The human right to political participation (the right to vote and to take part in the conduct of public affairs) ensures that societies can freely choose the type of system which the peoples residing in it find most conducive to the fulfillment of their rights and needs. The result is that health systems vary in terms of priorities and approaches used and the values underpinning both of these... Human rights provisions are deliberately broad and elastic to allow countries to meet the needs and wishes of their population in terms of devising systems which fulfill the basic human rights of all the population...
Source: Gostin L, et al. "Domains of Health Responsiveness - A Human Rights Analysis". UN Health and Human Rights Working Paper Series No. 2. 2003.

Dr. Cestre l'E. Montòccegliano, M.D.
His Majesty's Government's Permanent Representative to the United Nations
Acting Assistant Foreign Minister for the United Nations
NP (MP) for Vilònordà Sordosta-Píarmognazzo-Sint'Angelo di l'Ollino (Norden)
Frisbeeteria
07-01-2007, 16:20
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
This bill provides free basic health care to all citizens, promotes health education and healthy lifestyles, and guarantees individuals their right to choose one’s own health care provider.
Your desire to help the poor and underinsured doesn't make it a right. No bill can provide anything for free. The money has to come from somewhere, probably from the government reaching into the pockets of the citizens and industry once again. That means that this is Social Justice, not Human Rights.
Ariddia
07-01-2007, 17:09
Two points of concern.


To prevent abuse of the health care system, and to promote healthy lifestyle choices, routine visits to a health care provider (i.e. basic physical exams or out-patient procedures) will be limited to four doctor’s visits a year being funded by national governments. Additional visits will be paid for by the patient or by his/her health insurance.

This appeares to be a mandating clause preventing nations from funding more than four trips to the doctor per year for any citizen not covered in section 1c. Assuming this is not negated by Clause 5 (which may appear contradictory), my government must oppose this intrusion into national health care systems.


In order to pay for health care that is not covered by the local governments, citizens are to be able to take out private health care in addition to the state health provisions.


This would oblige countries in which there is no private sector to allow privatisation in this field. Again, my government must oppose.

The overall proposal is good, but those two points are unacceptable.


Christelle Zyryanov (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Christelle_Zyryanov),
Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA
Cluichstan
08-01-2007, 14:07
Keep your filthy hands off our healthcare.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN