NationStates Jolt Archive

EDIT: I'm not sure, but that vote has to rank as among the closest ever in NSUN history -- Assemby Historian, front and center!

Technically, the closest vote ever was Fight The Axis of Evil, with only a 1 vote (though 33.3%) difference, but we'll ignore that resolution as it isn't exactly a "real" one.

The Transgender Equality Act and The Worldwide Media Act each had 49% of the votes -- this repeal had 48%. The Transgender Equality Act failed by only 309 votes, and The World Wide Media Act by 100. This repeal failed by 360 votes.

Marginal passes include, at 50%, The 40 Hour Workweek (passed by 111 votes), and, at 51%, Repeal "Ban Chemical Weapons" (passed by 431 votes), and Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act (passed by 298 votes).

This vote is certainly one of the closest in history.

EDIT: Sorry, but what was a bad idea in the RLUS election of 2004 if a bad idea here. I can't stop you from posting your predictions (though I wish you would), but I reserve the right to mock them.

OOC: Meh. I'll refrain from these reports, as they, for some reason, annoy people. I suppose you hate RL election days, then? Nothing but voting projections.

OOC: Meh. I'll refrain from these reports, as they, for some reason, annoy people. I suppose you hate RL election days, then? Nothing but voting projections.

The problem is that in the real world one man and one woman has one vote each. Thus one is firmly in the realm of statistics. When the feeder nations have a few people with significantly greater voting pull, the numbers can get radically changed as was the case here. The fact that feeder votes can significantly vary from the statistical norm will change the margin of error in the poll by a significant amount, but the exact number I can't say offhand.

Moreover these RL reports are done with precincts reporting. The average voter turnout is more or less similar among precincts so given a small sample you can guess the turnout for the larger sample, baring cases where time zone differences and early results could influence voter turnout. Alas this is not the case with this as it is a global sample of voters up to a certain point in time, who could change their minds and can be joined by other voters before the polls close.

"The United Nations has 28,196 member nations and 2,002 Regional Delegates"

Not all vote and not all member nations support their regional delegate, but assuming 50% are that means there is a potential for 42,294 votes to be cast. Given the general low voter turnout 25% it is hard to predict any results without clear precinct sampling which is not available.

Do sour grapes make good wine?

Please don't tell me that you wouldn't be either buying or partaking in drinks if this repeal had passed.



Your snide little comment leads us to believe you assume we supported this repeal. We're puzzled at how you jumped to this conclusion, since our delegation made no statement on the issue during this debate.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Technically, the closest vote ever was Fight The Axis of Evil, with only a 1 vote (though 33.3%) difference, but we'll ignore that resolution as it isn't exactly a "real" one.

The Transgender Equality Act and The Worldwide Media Act each had 49% of the votes -- this repeal had 48%. The Transgender Equality Act failed by only 309 votes, and The World Wide Media Act by 100. This repeal failed by 360 votes.

Marginal passes include, at 50%, The 40 Hour Workweek (passed by 111 votes), and, at 51%, Repeal "Ban Chemical Weapons" (passed by 431 votes), and Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act (passed by 298 votes).

This vote is certainly one of the closest in history.

Wow -- thanks for digging that information up, Jey.

Your snide little comment leads us to believe you assume we supported this repeal. We're puzzled at how you jumped to this conclusion, since our delegation made no statement on the issue during this debate.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Shakespeare, my friend, Sakespeare.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

No way would you be on an anti-gloat tear (and "drinks for all" is hardly offensive, as it's one of the most common reaction to a vote that goes one's way in the UNGA) if the drinks had been for you.

Shakespeare, my friend, Sakespeare.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

"The lady" only protests when people make completely unwarranted assumptions and misrepresent our position on issues and resolutions. Your "sour grapes" comment clearly implied that we had supported this repeal, which is patently false.

No way would you be on an anti-gloat tear (and "drinks for all" is hardly offensive, as it's one of the most common reaction to a vote that goes one's way in the UNGA) if the drinks had been for you.

As for this... you might be interested to note that we posted the original anti-gloat comment following the defeat of a resolution we strongly opposed. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507107&page=18) You're right on one thing, though. There's nothing objectionable about the drinks comment. It was the snide tone of the whole post we found offensive.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

I may not have time to do the stats, but I'll grab the final delegates/members votes for you.

Thanks a lot if you can post it or send it to me, I will then do the stats.

Thanks a lot if you can post it or send it to me, I will then do the stats.
OOC: Sorry, LAE. I left the house for awhile thinking it had over an hour left and when I got back the vote had ended. So I missed it. Maybe Gruen, Kenny or someone else saved them? Again, I apologize.

No pb, maybe I can ask the delegate of Texas.