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Global Warming Alarmism

Demetriopolis
15-12-2006, 04:33
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Allech-Atreus
15-12-2006, 04:36
If you want to repeal legislation, you must utilize the "repeal" function, and you may not repeal more than one resolution at once.

Good try, though.
Demetriopolis
15-12-2006, 04:43
ok, revised now.
Gruenberg
15-12-2006, 04:45
ok, revised now.
No. You need to go to Resolution #72 and click on the repeal link; make an argument for the repeal in that. Repeals can't enact new legislation either.
Flibbleites
15-12-2006, 06:10
Before you submit again, here's some reading material (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465).
Euphobes
15-12-2006, 11:45
I will not be supporting the proposal. Is it illegal because it introduces new legislation, such as the UN taking a stance on something and forcing consultations with industry? A repeal can only repeal a resolution- it can do no more. Also, it may be meta-gaming to demand consultations with other parties before introducing environmental legislation.

Legality aside, you will need to explain why CO2 is not the cause of global warming, sometghing you may find hard to do since RL references are banned. It will also need toning down to stop it becoming extreme and possibly offensive to environmentalists.
Hirota
15-12-2006, 12:23
Welcome to the UN.

Have you ever heard of the phrase “Rome was not built in a day?” Well, the UN is exactly the same, and newcomers come onto the UN every day trying to stamp their own personal mark on the UN. Their optimism is remarkable, but to really stand a chance of making a lasting contributon to the UN, a newcomer nation has to realise the benefits of observing and learning of how the UN works before jumping into the deep end.
Italy 1914d
15-12-2006, 13:02
I personally disagree with the motives behind this proposal. Here are two of my non-emotional reasons. Nations may not just use their resources as they please, the environmental impacts of one nation affect many nations. When CFCs were in more common use, certain nations saw much greater consequences than others, and it was not the largest producers who encountered the greatest effects. Global Warming is the same way. Another major issue I have with your illegal proposal is that one of the legilations you enact is that "Furthermore, studies are to be completed on the climate invariability of global warming" such language implies that studies on this topic are not already in existence. Major international efforts have come to the conclusion that whatever the natural climactic trend would be right now without humans, the speed with which we are undergoing global warming is unnatural and a result of human activity. The speed is what makes Global Warming so dangerous, natural systems can absorb and adapt to change, but it takes a very long time. The rapid global warming we are witnessing now is on track to drastically exceed the buffering and adaptation abilities of many major systems. An example is the oceans, which can absorb a great quantity of carbonic acid with little effect, and over time, break it down and absorb more, we are however, on track to exceed the buffering capacity. If the oceans acidify humans could be the cause of destroying the natural system that supplies most of the worlds oxygen from the bottom up. That is possibly a little alarmist, but also quite true.
Oh, and I almost forgot. Being enviromentally concious does not destroy those poor old corporations the way you seem to think, several "energy" companies have saved a great deal of money by increasing efficiency and reducing greenhouse gas emissions, Wind Power can be an economical alternative to natural gas, and Carbon Trading can create an entirely new industry.
Euphobes
15-12-2006, 14:30
This went of to the UN floor in a dubious form. You cannot introduce ANY new legislation in a repeal. All a repeal can do is repeal 1 resolution. Demands 1 and 3 violate this, and number 3 is illegal because it changes game mechanics.
Goobergunchia
17-12-2006, 13:11
The Liberal Unitary Republic cannot support a proposal consisting solely of a period.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Author, "Outlaw Pedophilia"
The Most Glorious Hack
17-12-2006, 13:43
Welcome back, Lord Evif. Is this a permanent return, or are you serving some blend of penance by walking these halls again?


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Goobergunchia
17-12-2006, 13:48
It is a saying in Goobergunchia that "they always come back", and I cannot deny the validity of this statement. Although this month's cessation of Goobergunchian educational facilities [ooc: I'm home from college and bored] plays a certain role in my current activity, I will probably be maintaining a certain presence here for the indefinite future. My UN application is pending.

I thank the observer from The Most Glorious Hack for his welcome.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Author, "Outlaw Pedophilia"
The Most Glorious Hack
17-12-2006, 13:51
[ooc: I kinda figured it was because of vacation, heh]

While I, personally, was not here during your active period, I have read through the archives and am quite familiar with your presence. Your calm, level reasoning will always be welcome.

Even if we may disagree on our personal politics.


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