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Medical Cannabis Act
A resolution to legalize recreational drugs.

General Assembly of the United Nations,

REFFERRING to Resolution #159 (Patients Rights Act) to better illustrate this legislation,

CONCERNED by the current medical practices of UN member nations that have made the use of medical cannabis illegal,

RECOGNIZING that the use of medical cannabis (including, but not limited to, marijuana cigarettes and THC capsules) is an extraordinarily successful treatment as an antiemetic, which is a medicine used to treat a wide range of afflictions from motion sickness to the side effects of chemotherapy,

NOTING that nations which deprive patients of effective medical treatment, in whichever form it comes in, is an act of cruelty against its populace, and should be considered in direct violation of binding UN law,

CONVINCED that the following measures will allow for better medical treatment of patients and thereby improve the quality of life in UN member states, as well as eliminate loopholes in national law which may prevent the best possible treatment for medical conditions,

MANDATES the following:

1) All UN member states will grant medical practitioners operating within their borders the right to prescribe medical cannabis to their patients at their own discretion.

2) All UN member states will legalize the possession of medical cannabis as long as the possessor can provide a prescription from a legitimate medical practitioner operating within the charter of the Medical Cannabis Act.

3) All UN member states shall legalize the cultivation, production, transportation, and possession of cannabis strictly for medical purposes.

4) All UN member states will reserve the right to prosecute the possessors, cultivators, transporters, and producers of recreational cannabis in all of its forms if they so choose.

Input is appreciated.

REFFERRING to Resolution #159 (Patients Rights Act) to better illustrate this legislation,
You did this with the economic rights one too. I'm not sure of the value of it, because it doesn't better illustrate the resolution at all, without any exposition. Is there really any need for the reference.

Otherwise, I can't see that we'll oppose this for any substantive reasons.

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1) All UN member states will grant medical practitioners operating within their borders the right to prescribe medical cannabis to their patients at their own discretion.
This seems to say that we can't punish doctors for prescribing medical cannabis when it really isn't needed. And can it say "legally recognized medical practitioners" or something? Ceorana doesn't want to let any old Joe calling himself a medical practitioner prescribe all the "medical" cannabis he wants.

2) All UN member states will legalize the possession of medical cannabis as long as the possessor can provide a prescription from a legitimate medical practitioner operating within the charter of the Medical Cannabis Act.
This needs to be changed to:

2) All UN member states will legalize the possession of medical cannabis as long as the possessor can provide a valid prescription from a legitimate medical practitioner operating within the charter of the Medical Cannabis Act regarding the cannabis the possessor is possessing.

or something.

3) All UN member states shall legalize the cultivation, production, transportation, and possession of cannabis strictly for medical purposes.
Would this require us to let any old person grow cannabis "for medical purposes"? We'd like the right to license growers, since cannabis is currently strictly forbidden in Ceorana, and recreational cannabis will continue to be if this passes.

Kingsley Thomas
Ambassador to the United Nations
The Congressional Republic of Ceorana

Okay, I'll be substantive here. I have two problems with this.

1. Why do you feel it's the UN's duty to decide which medicines can be prescribed by doctors?

2. Why single out cannabis/marijuana?

Howsabout I choose another drug that has been prescribed as an antiemitic and replace it in your proposal?

Thalidomide Act
A resolution to legalize recreational drugs.

General Assembly of the United Nations,

REFFERRING to Resolution #159 (Patients Rights Act) to better illustrate this legislation,

CONCERNED by the current medical practices of UN member nations that have made the use of thalidomide illegal,

RECOGNIZING that the use of thalidomide is an extraordinarily successful treatment as an antiemetic, which is a medicine used to treat a wide range of afflictions from motion sickness to the side effects of chemotherapy, as well as "morning sickness" in pregnant women,

NOTING that nations which deprive patients of effective medical treatment, in whichever form it comes in, is an act of cruelty against its populace, and should be considered in direct violation of binding UN law,

CONVINCED that the following measures will allow for better medical treatment of patients and thereby improve the quality of life in UN member states, as well as eliminate loopholes in national law which may prevent the best possible treatment for medical conditions,

MANDATES the following:

1) All UN member states will grant medical practitioners operating within their borders the right to prescribe thalidomide to their patients at their own discretion.

2) All UN member states will legalize the possession of thalidomide as long as the possessor can provide a prescription from a legitimate medical practitioner operating within the charter of the Thalidomide Act.

3) All UN member states shall legalize the production, transportation, and possession of thalidomide strictly for medical purposes.

4) All UN member states will reserve the right to prosecute the possessors, transporters, and producers of recreational thalidomide in all of its forms if they so choose.

Okay, I can't really think of a recreational use for thalidomide, but I think I've made my point.

However, now that I think of it, this is a mis-categorisation. You've made it a proposal "to legalize recreational drugs," yet the final clause completely contradicts the category.

To sum up, no, no, a thousand times no.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

We agree that medical cannabis is valuable (and allow its use, medical or otherwise, in Altanar). However, we also feel pretty strongly that it should be left up to individual nations to decide their medical practices in most cases. This just seems to be too intrusive where there is not a demonstrated serious need to do so. Altanar, regrettably, would most likely abstain, if we did not oppose it outright.

Wouldn't this be covered by Patient Rights Act, in that Cannabis would be used as a treatment, and PRA allows for doctors to treat patient in whatever way is decided best by the doctor and patient?

There's still the loophole that was pointed out in another forum. If I want to negate this resolution, all I have to do is prohibit the sale or transfer of medical cannabis. Doctors can prescribe it, but pharmacists can't dispense it. This loophole needs to be nailed shut.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Wouldn't this be covered by Patient Rights Act, in that Cannabis would be used as a treatment, and PRA allows for doctors to treat patient in whatever way is decided best by the doctor and patient?

Of course, but then we wouldn't be specifically enouraging the use of marijuana. That fucking Larebil would've loved this load of shite.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

3) All UN member states shall legalize the cultivation, production, transportation, and possession of cannabis strictly for medical purposes.We believe this is overly intrusive and unnecessary. Try this:3) All UN member states shall legalize either the cultivation and production, or barring that, the importation, of cannabis strictly for medical purposes, as well as its transportation and possession.We shouldn't require people to grow the stuff if they don't want to, but if they don't then we should require its important to provide legal access.

And yes, this would be a category violation as it stands. It needs to be a human rights proposition.

Once again, the rules themselves explicitly state that medical marijuana proposals should be in the RDU category.

Once again, the rules themselves explicitly state that medical marijuana proposals should be in the RDU category.

OOC: I know. Doesn't mean I hafta like it. :p

We oppose this act, it cuts into our competitiveness. Illegal cannabis artificially raises the price for our medical product insuring we make a decent profit. A lot of farmers would go out of business if this product was made legal in other countries. While it is strictly managed within our own country, we have laws about driving submarines and using heavy equipment while using cannabis with severe penalties we do not believe across the board legalization even for medical purposes is a good idea.

And yes, this would be a category violation as it stands. It needs to be a human rights proposition.Once again, the rules themselves explicitly state that medical marijuana proposals should be in the RDU category.
Gruenberg is correct.

Although I am personally pro-drug, and Dancing Bananland is in fact notable for it's absence of drug laws, I do beleive that drug regulations fall outside the jurisdiction of the UN, and should be left to the discretion of indevidual nations.

Ergo
3) All UN member states shall legalize the cultivation, production, transportation, and possession of cannabis strictly for medical purposes.

This clause alone kills this proposal. Not only does it force nations to allow medical cannabis use (which still isn't universally accepted as an important medical treatment) it also forces other nations to allow ONLY for medical use, so no nation can outright legalize it either. Opposed.

You've made it a proposal "to legalize recreational drugs," yet the final clause completely contradicts the category.

To sum up, no, no, a thousand times no.

see thats why this game is rigged :rolleyes:

THE MODS WILL NOT ALLOW IT TO BE LISTED IN ANY OTHER CATEGORY : (

i got banned for telling them how stuipd that rule was and i still say its stupid but thats ok

WHY?

because im smoking a medical marijuana joint right now as im typing this in the real world U.S.A.
and im doing it legally
best of all the weed hating mods from every web site in the would cant do anything about it

OOC: My apologies to Belarum. I never wanted this sort of retardation to spill into the thread.

OOC: I never wanted this sort of retardation to spill into the thread.


then you never should have posted anything in here because you talking = retardation

then you never should have posted anything in here because you talking = retardation

What's that awful smell? Is that a troll? Yeah, yeah I think it's a troll. And it's on fire. A flaming troll. What a terrible smell.

Get ta piss if you have nothing actually on topic to say.

What's that awful smell? Is that a troll? Yeah, yeah I think it's a troll. And it's on fire. A flaming troll. What a terrible smell.

Get ta piss if you have nothing actually on topic to say.

ummmm i was on topic untill some guy called me retarded :rolleyes:

as for trolling while i have dabbled in it :D i have not done any trolling on THIS forum

as for trolling while i have dabbled in it :D i have not done any trolling on THIS forum

OOC: You're doing it now. It's not impressing anyone, and it doesn't add anything to the thread. Please stop.

OOC: You're doing it now. It's not impressing anyone, and it doesn't add anything to the thread. Please stop.

you really are an idiot :eek:

my nation is FAT SACKVILLE
im the delegate of the green WEED region
im also a legal medical marijuana user IRL

now cant you see why i might have some interest in this subject ??????

if i was trolling this site you would know it because i would have posted some crap and got banned by now :D

if i was trolling this site you would know it because i would have posted some crap and got banned by now :DYou did, and you were.
Originally Posted by Fat sackville
besides i dont need to say anything else the truth in what i have said will speak for itself.
anyone who reads my post can see how illogical it is for a medical proposal to fall under recreational drug use.Don't know when to shut up, do you?

5 day ban.


-The Most Glorious Hack
NationStates Game Moderator
And if you continue to call people idiots and such, you will be again.

you really are an idiot :eek:

my nation is FAT SACKVILLE
im the delegate of the green WEED region
im also a legal medical marijuana user IRL

now cant you see why i might have some interest in this subject ??????

if i was trolling this site you would know it because i would have posted some crap and got banned by now :D

I have to agree with Altanar, your bitching about what category the mods have ruled that medical marijuana MUST be in is not adding anything to the thread. And if I remember correctly you got banned from the forums the last time you bitched about this, apparently you didn't learn your lesson.

you really are an idiot :eek:

You're complaining in a barely literate fashion about something that got you banned once before, and that the moderators have already addressed. But I'm the idiot. Riiiiiiiight.

my nation is FAT SACKVILLE
im the delegate of the green WEED region
im also a legal medical marijuana user IRL

now cant you see why i might have some interest in this subject ???

If that's the case, you'd be better served by making a coherent argument about something that actually matters to this proposal.

:D You did, and you were.

And if you continue to call people idiots and such, you will be again.


they are pretty much calling me a retard and a troll but im the jerk for talking crap back?

screw this site and all you dip$hits
im not coming back to this thread because you guys are a joke :gundge:


I HAVE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ONE THING THOUGH :p

because of you guys i have gotten back into the real world marijuana movement and im working to make weed legal for everyone :D

just the other day i went to a /rally/protest/party with over 100 other people from my county that smoke marijuana under the protection of the law.
we had a blast and the cops didnt even screw with us :D

i thought they would at least show up to check that we all had our scripts but they didnt even care.

SO MY POINT IS YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT SAY WHAT YOU WANT
BUT IT DONT MATTER BECAUSE THIS IS A GAME :D

Thank you, Shakespeare.

Can we please discuss the resolution now?

And, of you go for another five days.

If you want to debate the reasoning behind the rule, start a thread and debate it. If you want to rant, rave, and toss insults, you can find another game to play.

Looking forward to an update on Rate My Mod,

-The Most Glorious Hack
NationStates Game Moderator

:D


they are pretty much calling me a retard and a troll but im the jerk for talking crap back?

screw this site and all you dip$hits
im not coming back to this thread because you guys are a joke :gundge:


I HAVE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ONE THING THOUGH :p

because of you guys i have gotten back into the real world marijuana movement and im working to make weed legal for everyone :D

just the other day i went to a /rally/protest/party with over 100 other people from my county that smoke marijuana under the protection of the law.
we had a blast and the cops didnt even screw with us :D

i thought they would at least show up to check that we all had our scripts but they didnt even care.

SO MY POINT IS YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT SAY WHAT YOU WANT
BUT IT DONT MATTER BECAUSE THIS IS A GAME :D

He broke three of my best Ironymeters with that post.

He broke three of my best Ironymeters with that post.

I hear you can get replacements for those at CVS on the cheap.

I'm sure the lot of marijuana supporters have these links bookmarked, so if someone could please source the following statement for me?

NOTING that nations which deprive patients of effective medical treatment, in whichever form it comes in, is an act of cruelty against its populace, and should be considered in direct violation of binding UN law

Otherwise I really have nothing to say on this.