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Universial Workweek Resolution Draft

Ellelt
09-11-2006, 00:29
Okay everyone, Im relatively new here but i have read the resolution rules...and i think this one applies well, but im not sure so I'm looking for help in editing this draft, and maybe even getting a co-sponsor. Please let me know those things i would need to change...or maybe even separate into two separate resolutions, as I was not clear, if one could repeal and substitute or not as is possible usually (depending on your RL country's jurisprudence/legislative process) in RL.

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Universal Workweek Limitation Act.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Significant.

Authored by: Ellelt

Co-Sponsor:

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Universal Workweek Limitations Act.

Whereas: Resolution #165 has repealed the universal 40-hour workweek. And Whereas: Resolution #147 does not mandate a required amount of rest for workers. And Whereas: This omission has allowed nations with lenient labour laws and regulations to unfairly work labourers for longer hours than other nations, and thereby extract extra profitability from its working-class, with little regard to worker health and safety. And Whereas: both provisions do not, by express language, regulate industries where direct supervision by a manager or foreman is not the norm, truck-drivers for example.

Be It Resolved, that the NSUN shall Repeal and Substitute Resolution #165 with this act. Be it Resolved: That while member nations may legislate standards where maximum hours are lower, and overtime pay is higher than international standards contained in this resolution, that the NSUN has the right to stipulate Maximum Workweek Standards for industrial practices on an international level. Be it Resolved: the NSUN has the right to legislate on maters of industrial practice in the interests of international social justice, poverty reduction and worker safety.

Definitions:

Employee: Any person who works for an other person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof).
Employer: Any person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof) which hires an other person to perform work.
Day: A Twenty-Four hour period regardless of at what time it begins but generally considered to begin at midnight (00:00 hours)
Week: A Seven Day period regardless of which day it begins on, but generally considered to conform to the Gregorian (Western) Calendar.
Base Rate: The standard amount a worker is paid per hour of work, commonly referred to as a wage.
Shift: A specified amount of time a worker works per day.

Chapter One: General Provisions

1. The NSUN, recognizing national sovergntry reserves to the various nations the right to pass laws to create workweek standards which are lower than these international standards, both generally and on an industry by industry basis.
2. The NSUN recognizing the need for an international workweek floor do hereby require compliance by member states of these international standards.
3. The NSUN recognizing differences in various industries will list within this resolution major industries in chapter two with each having an article. All other industries shall fall under, where not listed in chapter two, These general provisions set forth in article four of this chapter, except with the exceptions provided for by Chapter two, or Article five of Chapter one.
4. The general maximum amount of hours for employees; shall be set at Seventy-Two (72) hours per week, with no more than twelve (12) hours per day; forty (40) hours of which shall be paid at the base rate, and thirty-two hours of which shall be paid at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate (Commonly referred to as Time and a Half). And requiring that workers receive a minimum of one full day off for rest and recreation per week.
5. Exceptions to article fours shall be as follows: Self-employed workers, Business owners, and farmers who take the profit from their farm as their yearly income rather than accepting a wage from the government or private business and personnel of the national armed services or emergency services (which shall fall under national legislation).
6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

Chapter Two: International Standards for Specific Industries

7. Uranium, coal, and other miners shall have a maximum work week of sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours being paid at base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate. Miners shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation. And no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
8. Construction workers shall have a maximum work week set at sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours at the base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times the base rate. Construction workers shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation, and no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
9. Agriculture: Due to the nature of agriculture requiring a variable amount of labour hours depending on local conditions, and requiring often times work each day of the week, wage-paid workers will not have a maximum number of working hours; however, they shall be paid one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times their base rate for each hour over fifty (50) hours per week, and twice (2 times) the base rate for hours worked on national holidays, and elections days as created by national law of the various member states.

Chapter Three: The Right of Workers to Unionize and Go on Strike

10. In the sprit of accord with Resolution 149, this resolution reaffirms the right of workers to join, or form unions, and for these unions to be free from governmental interference except by the provisions of that resolution ( Resolution #149), or for violations of International law or national law of the specific nation wherein the violation shall have been committed.
11. And in the spirit of freedom as expressed by Resolution 175, the NSUN, Hereby Mandates, that all employees in NSUN member states with a simple majority per “shop” or local organization/location, may bring in a union to represent them in the negotiation of wages, hours and conditions.
12. No employer in member states may fire employees for joining, forming or voting-in a union; or for going on a union authorized strike provided said strike is in conformity to international and that specific nation’s laws.
13. No employer may hire non-union, or unionized replacement workers, during time of union authorized strike provided that said strike is in conformity with international and that specific nation’s laws.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-11-2006, 00:36
Laws are laws; Repeals are Repeals, and never the twain shall meet.

You can't combine Repeals with new laws. This is highly illegal.
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 00:40
so then i would first have to repeal the repeal to the 40 hour work week? or just delite that line?


i would rather not have to repeal something that didnt need repealing...and just go forward with the law writing. the whole point is to take this...and make it into a legal resolution after all.

*goes to reread the repeal of the 40 hour workweek*
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 00:56
After rereading resolution 165 i have edited my potential proposal as such:

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Universal Workweek Limitation Act.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Significant.

Authored by: Ellelt

Co-Sponsor:

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Universal Workweek Limitations Act.

Whereas: Resolution #147 does not mandate a required amount of rest for workers. And Whereas: This omission has allowed nations with lenient labour laws and regulations to unfairly work labourers for longer hours than other nations, and thereby extract extra profitability from its working-class, with little regard to worker health and safety. And Whereas: this provision does not, by express language, regulate industries where direct supervision by a manager or foreman is not the norm, truck-drivers for example.

Be it Resolved: That while member nations may legislate standards where maximum hours are lower, and overtime pay is higher than international standards contained in this resolution, that the NSUN has the right to stipulate Maximum Workweek Standards for industrial practices on an international level. Be it Resolved: the NSUN has the right to legislate on maters of industrial practice in the interests of international social justice, poverty reduction and worker safety.

Definitions:

Employee: Any person who works for an other person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof).
Employer: Any person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof) which hires an other person to perform work.
Day: A Twenty-Four hour period regardless of at what time it begins but generally considered to begin at midnight (00:00 hours)
Week: A Seven Day period regardless of which day it begins on, but generally considered to conform to the Gregorian (Western) Calendar.
Base Rate: The standard amount a worker is paid per hour of work, commonly referred to as a wage.
Shift: A specified amount of time a worker works per day.

Chapter One: General Provisions

1. The NSUN, recognizing national sovergntry reserves to the various nations the right to pass laws to create workweek standards which are lower than these international standards, both generally and on an industry by industry basis.
2. The NSUN recognizing the need for an international workweek floor do hereby require compliance by member states of these international standards.
3. The NSUN recognizing differences in various industries will list within this resolution major industries in chapter two with each having an article. All other industries shall fall under, where not listed in chapter two, These general provisions set forth in article four of this chapter, except with the exceptions provided for by Chapter two, or Article five of Chapter one.
4. The general maximum amount of hours for employees; shall be set at Seventy-Two (72) hours per week, with no more than twelve (12) hours per day; forty (40) hours of which shall be paid at the base rate, and thirty-two hours of which shall be paid at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate (Commonly referred to as Time and a Half). And requiring that workers receive a minimum of one full day off for rest and recreation per week.
5. Exceptions to article fours shall be as follows: Self-employed workers, Business owners, and farmers who take the profit from their farm as their yearly income rather than accepting a wage from the government or private business and personnel of the national armed services or emergency services (which shall fall under national legislation).
6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

Chapter Two: International Standards for Specific Industries
7. Uranium, coal, and other miners shall have a maximum work week of sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours being paid at base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate. Miners shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation. And no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
8. Construction workers shall have a maximum work week set at sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours at the base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times the base rate. Construction workers shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation, and no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
9. Agriculture: Due to the nature of agriculture requiring a variable amount of labour hours depending on local conditions, and requiring often times work each day of the week, wage-paid workers will not have a maximum number of working hours; however, they shall be paid one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times their base rate for each hour over fifty (50) hours per week, and twice (2 times) the base rate for hours worked on national holidays, and elections days as created by national law of the various member states.

Chapter Three: The Right of Workers to Unionize and Go on Strike
10. In the sprit of accord with Resolution 149, this resolution reaffirms the right of workers to join, or form unions, and for these unions to be free from governmental interference except by the provisions of that resolution ( Resolution #149), or for violations of International law or national law of the specific nation wherein the violation shall have been committed.
11. And in the spirit of freedom as expressed by Resolution 175, the NSUN, Hereby Mandates, that all employees in NSUN member states with a simple majority per “shop” or local organization/location, may bring in a union to represent them in the negotiation of wages, hours and conditions.
12. No employer in member states may fire employees for joining, forming or voting-in a union; or for going on a union authorized strike provided said strike is in conformity to international and that specific nation’s laws.
13. No employer may hire non-union, or unionized replacement workers, during time of union authorized strike provided that said strike is in conformity with international and that specific nation’s laws.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-11-2006, 01:00
Chapter Three: The Right of Workers to Unionize and Go on Strike
10. In the sprit of accord with Resolution 149, this resolution reaffirms the right of workers to join, or form unions, and for these unions to be free from governmental interference except by the provisions of that resolution ( Resolution #149), or for violations of International law or national law of the specific nation wherein the violation shall have been committed.
11. And in the spirit of freedom as expressed by Resolution 175, the NSUN, Hereby Mandates, that all employees in NSUN member states with a simple majority per “shop” or local organization/location, may bring in a union to represent them in the negotiation of wages, hours and conditions.
12. No employer in member states may fire employees for joining, forming or voting-in a union; or for going on a union authorized strike provided said strike is in conformity to international and that specific nation’s laws.
13. No employer may hire non-union, or unionized replacement workers, during time of union authorized strike provided that said strike is in conformity with international and that specific nation’s laws.Duplication.
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 01:03
okay...yes i just noticed that as i was finishing reading the third chapter of my draft and have deleted that part. Please point out any more illegalities. Thanks,
Ellelt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Universal Workweek Limitation Act.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Significant.

Authored by: Ellelt

Co-Sponsor:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Universal Workweek Limitations Act.

Whereas: Resolution #147 does not mandate a required amount of rest for workers. And Whereas: This omission has allowed nations with lenient labour laws and regulations to unfairly work labourers for longer hours than other nations, and thereby extract extra profitability from its working-class, with little regard to worker health and safety. And Whereas: this provision does not, by express language, regulate industries where direct supervision by a manager or foreman is not the norm, truck-drivers for example.

Be it Resolved: That while member nations may legislate standards where maximum hours are lower, and overtime pay is higher than international standards contained in this resolution, that the NSUN has the right to stipulate Maximum Workweek Standards for industrial practices on an international level. Be it Resolved: the NSUN has the right to legislate on maters of industrial practice in the interests of international social justice, poverty reduction and worker safety.

Definitions:

Employee: Any person who works for an other person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof).
Employer: Any person or organization (Government Agency/Business/Corporation--disregarding the public or private ownership thereof) which hires an other person to perform work.
Day: A Twenty-Four hour period regardless of at what time it begins but generally considered to begin at midnight (00:00 hours)
Week: A Seven Day period regardless of which day it begins on, but generally considered to conform to the Gregorian (Western) Calendar.
Base Rate: The standard amount a worker is paid per hour of work, commonly referred to as a wage.
Shift: A specified amount of time a worker works per day.

Chapter One: General Provisions

1. The NSUN, recognizing national sovergntry reserves to the various nations the right to pass laws to create workweek standards which are lower than these international standards, both generally and on an industry by industry basis.
2. The NSUN recognizing the need for an international workweek floor do hereby require compliance by member states of these international standards.
3. The NSUN recognizing differences in various industries will list within this resolution major industries in chapter two with each having an article. All other industries shall fall under, where not listed in chapter two, These general provisions set forth in article four of this chapter, except with the exceptions provided for by Chapter two, or Article five of Chapter one.
4. The general maximum amount of hours for employees; shall be set at Seventy-Two (72) hours per week, with no more than twelve (12) hours per day; forty (40) hours of which shall be paid at the base rate, and thirty-two hours of which shall be paid at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate (Commonly referred to as Time and a Half). And requiring that workers receive a minimum of one full day off for rest and recreation per week.
5. Exceptions to article fours shall be as follows: Self-employed workers, Business owners, and farmers who take the profit from their farm as their yearly income rather than accepting a wage from the government or private business and personnel of the national armed services or emergency services (which shall fall under national legislation).
6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

Chapter Two: International Standards for Specific Industries
7. Uranium, coal, and other miners shall have a maximum work week of sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours being paid at base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate. Miners shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation. And no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
8. Construction workers shall have a maximum work week set at sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours at the base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times the base rate. Construction workers shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation, and no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
9. Agriculture: Due to the nature of agriculture requiring a variable amount of labour hours depending on local conditions, and requiring often times work each day of the week, wage-paid workers will not have a maximum number of working hours; however, they shall be paid one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times their base rate for each hour over fifty (50) hours per week, and twice (2 times) the base rate for hours worked on national holidays, and elections days as created by national law of the various member states.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-11-2006, 01:08
Those are just the glaring ones. I'm sure Gruen will have some specifics, especially since I believe he wrote the Resolution you're focusing on.
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 01:16
well, I didnt exepct this to be an easy process...but personally i think that allowing people to work much over 72 hours a week is inhumane. I have stronger words for it...but i wont post them on the forum, due to reasons of professionalism.

Anyway thank you very much for your help...as i said im new at this and would like to be quite active if possible, not only in the voting aspect but also drafting resolutions as well.:)

Alexander Ivanovich Serpov,
General Secretary of the Communist Party of Ellelt,
President of the Council of Ministers of Ellelt.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-11-2006, 01:25
but personally i think that allowing people to work much over 72 hours a week is inhumane.Well... to be perfectly frank, and entirely out of character, I once spent two and a half months working 72 hours a week. After I saw how much extra I was earning, and knowing it was for a limited time, I did everything I could to scam as many extra hours as possible.
Kivisto
09-11-2006, 01:39
If I might suggest, if you follow the link I supply here (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Reclamation/index.php), it will bring you to another forum that is specifically geared towards helping with the development of resolutions. There, you will receive constructive criticism and help with some of the major and minor points to work out with your ideas from a number of individuals who have much experience in authoring such things.

Just a suggestion.
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 02:02
Well... to be perfectly frank, and entirely out of character, I once spent two and a half months working 72 hours a week. After I saw how much extra I was earning, and knowing it was for a limited time, I did everything I could to scam as many extra hours as possible.

I can understand an appreciate that, also out of character, i do the same as much as possible, but that opinion remains the same in character or not due to my experience as a working person.
Ceorana
09-11-2006, 02:51
well, I didnt exepct this to be an easy process...but personally i think that allowing people to work much over 72 hours a week is inhumane. I have stronger words for it...but i wont post them on the forum, due to reasons of professionalism.

I fully empathize with your feeling

(OMG! Kingsley's empathizing with a commie! Aargh, Kingsley, let go of my throat! - Trenbakke)

but I disagree on where you place the problem. Ceorana, and I personally, believe that it is not inhumane to be able to work more than 72 hours a week. Hey, what if you're bored, or are saving up for a Ceoranan Anti-Tariff Gun 200)? Working is a right that shouldn't be taken away.

(OMG! You mean I'd actually want to stay 72 hours with this jerk? Aargh, Kingsley, let go of my throat! - Trenbakke)

However, I may believe it's not good for a person to be in a position where you have to work 72 hours a week.

Beyond my abstract lecture there, I'd also like to point out that clause 6 would pretty much kill democracy, since you've banned poll workers from working on election days. ;)

Also, please cut all of article two, as it's just micromanagement, and explain what you mean by "general maximum workweek".

Kingsley Thomas
Ambassador to the United Nations
The Congressional Republic of Ceorana
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 03:20
well as for chapter two...micromanagement or not...it is necessary as mining, construction, and agriculture have unique needs in relation to production, worker health and safty. Mining and construction are both very physicly demanding...and as such would require more time off for recuperation naturally. Agriculture is based upon local conditions and practices...for example weather, or for an other example plowing with a ox instead of a tractor (which is unfortunately the case with many Elleltian collective farms, although the Ministry of Agricultural Production is working on remiding this).

As for poll workers, i didnt consider that, however, i would have assumed that many nations would have volunteers performing that task as is the case of Ellelt. Im not sure If i should add a provision to the resolution concerning that...or if i should just simply make an execption as listed in Chapter one Article five. I would like to see if this is a problem for other people as well as i want to craft a resolution that will best help the proltarians of all NSUN states.

As for the General Maximum workweek, that phrase does not appear at all in the resolution unless im misreading it at the moment. *goes and checks again the resolution as edited* The only place i can see where you would come up with that would be in Chapter one, article four, the first sentence between the word "The" and the word "workweek". If that is the case that may be striken if it causes gross confusion, but i do not foresee it to be a problem.

A. I. Serpov
Gensec CP Ellelt.
P.o.C.M. Ellelt.
De facto Elleltian Ambassador to the UN (until a suitable comrade can be found)
Cobdenia
09-11-2006, 03:29
Thank God Cobdenia abolished Weekends and Fridays...
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 03:47
oh and by the way, no worker in Ellelt could ever become that bored. Our Gorious dictatorship of the proletariat provides free education, as well as cultural activities. Imagine going to the theatre for free on your day off...Elletians have that option, or they may go to university for free, provided of course they can pass the entrance exams.

As for purchasing weaponry, no Elleltian, and indeed probably no upstanding citizen of any other country needs a firearm unless they are in the Armed Services or Police forces, of course there are criminal elements in every country i suppose....but firearms are dangerious tools that are best kept to those who have been trained to use them properly.

A.I. Serpov
Gensec CP Ellelt,
PoCM Ellelt,
Elleltian UN Ambassdor (provisional)
Ausserland
09-11-2006, 04:01
First, we'd like to welcome the representative of Ellelt to the Assembly. We we think there are many problems to be worked out with the proposal and, to be honest, don't believe we would end up supporting the idea. But it's good to see a new member making an attempt to contribute to the NSUN and putting real thought and effort into the attempt. It's a refreshing change from seeing people waltz into the Assembly and immediately start whining and complaining.

We'd like to second the suggestion of the honorable representative of Kivisto that the representative pay a visit to the Reclamation (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Reclamation/index.php?act=idx) forum. He'd be more than welcome to check it out and see if he thought it would be worthwhile.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Ceorana
09-11-2006, 07:13
well as for chapter two...micromanagement or not...it is necessary as mining, construction, and agriculture have unique needs in relation to production, worker health and safty. Mining and construction are both very physicly demanding...and as such would require more time off for recuperation naturally. Agriculture is based upon local conditions and practices...for example weather, or for an other example plowing with a ox instead of a tractor (which is unfortunately the case with many Elleltian collective farms, although the Ministry of Agricultural Production is working on remiding this).
No, it's not necessary! What if a nation had mining that was easy, and workers didn't need as much time off? What if a nation

As for poll workers, i didnt consider that, however, i would have assumed that many nations would have volunteers performing that task as is the case of Ellelt. Im not sure If i should add a provision to the resolution concerning that...or if i should just simply make an execption as listed in Chapter one Article five. I would like to see if this is a problem for other people as well as i want to craft a resolution that will best help the proltarians of all NSUN states.
Well, Ceorana has some volunteer poll workers, but we have a lot of people voting by mail, and we sure pay our postal workers! And what about telephone switchboard operators, scientists taking daily measurements, people in the catering industry for other national holidays: face it, some people have to work on holidays!

Also, salaried workers are ignored. This was my major problem with the last workweek resolution. This effectively mandates companies pay workers by the hour, which isn't the best way to pay people in all situations. Examples: salespeople, elected officials, etc.

Kingsley Thomas
Ambassador to the United Nations
The Congressional Republic of Ceorana
Gruenberg
09-11-2006, 13:52
You will need to bear this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11663201&postcount=176) in mind. At present, I find this draft quite difficult to read, but I'm pretty sure Article 4 of Chapter One contradicts it. Oh, and bear in mind this (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=fair) has hit quorum.
St Edmundan Antarctic
09-11-2006, 19:59
6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

Medical personnel, emergency services, armed forces...
Mindless UN drones
09-11-2006, 20:31
4. The general maximum amount of hours for employees; shall be set at Seventy-Two (72) hours per week, with no more than twelve (12) hours per day; forty (40) hours of which shall be paid at the base rate, and thirty-two hours of which shall be paid at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate (Commonly referred to as Time and a Half). And requiring that workers receive a minimum of one full day off for rest and recreation per week.

6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

7. Uranium, coal, and other miners shall have a maximum work week of sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours being paid at base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½) times the base rate. Miners shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation. And no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.
8. Construction workers shall have a maximum work week set at sixty (60) hours per week; with thirty (30) hours at the base rate, and thirty (30) hours at one-and-one-half (1 ½ ) times the base rate. Construction workers shall have the right to have two (2) days off per week for rest and recreation, and no shift may exceed twelve (12) hours in duration.

OOC: What if they want to work longer or on the holidays(some companies pay time and a half for holidays. By placing those in, you're denying the worker their right to do so.
Ellelt
09-11-2006, 23:17
First, we'd like to welcome the representative of Ellelt to the Assembly. We we think there are many problems to be worked out with the proposal and, to be honest, don't believe we would end up supporting the idea. But it's good to see a new member making an attempt to contribute to the NSUN and putting real thought and effort into the attempt. It's a refreshing change from seeing people waltz into the Assembly and immediately start whining and complaining.

We'd like to second the suggestion of the honorable representative of Kivisto that the representative pay a visit to the Reclamation (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Reclamation/index.php?act=idx) forum. He'd be more than welcome to check it out and see if he thought it would be worthwhile.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Minister Olembe:

I have joined the url you showed and also on reviewing on the books current lesgislation and on agenda legislation, Ellelt has decided that this Proposal is dead before it even reaches the begining stages. However, I will urge my regional delegate to vote for the Fair Wage act. I will vote for it as well, i think its well written and a credit to Iron Felix.

I would also like to thank you personally and everyone who posted in this thread for their help. It was truely a learning experience for me, and I hope that in the future i will be able to write resolution proposals for the un that wont already be covered.

I am glad that i was directed to the site provided both by yourself and by the Honourable Representive of Kivisto. Indeed im glad to have found a place where i can try to write legislation that i think is necessary and not be afraid of being boiled in oil :D for it. Not saying that anyone who has posted in this thread has tried that.

I consider this topic closed as I think that the Wage Resolution which is on the agenda, and the worker safty resolution currently effectively cover both issues for the present time. And Urge the responseable mod to close it.

Thanks to you all for helping me in this learning experence.

Alexander Ivanovich Serpov
General Secretary of the Communist Party of Ellelt,
President of the Council of Ministers, Ellelt.
Provisional Ambassador to the UN for the United Socialist States of Ellelt.
Ausserland
10-11-2006, 04:25
We're very pleased that we could be of service to the honorable representative from Ellelt. We concur completely with his decision not to pursue this effort. We look forward, not only to his future efforts to write legislation, but also to his participation in discussions here and on Reclamation.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Kelssek
10-11-2006, 04:46
What I think we need is not maximum workweeks, but minimum vacation and break times. If only for the simple reason that it's easier for people to say "Damn commies taking away our FREEDOM!!" than "Damn commies want us to have more free time!!"

6. All workers shall have off national holidays, as created by the laws of the member states, and election days, as created by the laws of the member states.

It would be better to mandate time off in lieu when people have to work on a holiday. As already pointed out plenty of folks need to work on holidays. In some countries you will then get an extra day of leave you can take at any time.
Ellelt
10-11-2006, 05:21
you know Kelssek thats a great idea!!!!:) Can i use it?
Kelssek
10-11-2006, 13:17
Sure. Go crazy. As usual, if you take over the world I expect to be named figurehead-ruler-for-life.
Ellelt
10-11-2006, 16:35
Sure. Go crazy. As usual, if you take over the world I expect to be named figurehead-ruler-for-life.

thank you for allowing me to work on a proposal mandating minimum vacation times. Ellelt is not exactly intrested in world domination...but we will consider it if thats what hapens :D