NationStates Jolt Archive

RECOGNIZING that a members of the United Nations are interdependent in many ways,

FULLY AWARE that humanitarian crises within UN member states require immediate attention and assistance,

DULY NOTING that the tourism industry in many UN member states is sagging due to a lack of foreign visitors who are unable to visit some UN member states or do not know enough about them to do so,

CONFIDENT that the technology to transport civilians, ambassadors, government officials, and aid workers from one UN member state to another is not an obstacle, even when not all UN member states are on the same planet,

THE UNITED NATIONS:

ESTABLISHES, in every UN member state, at least one port, known as a Base for International Going Between Regions and Other Transport as a Handy and Expedient Resource, from which a citizen of any state can purchase a ticket for a flat fee and travel to a similar port in another UN member state;

URGES those who schedule transports to make as many trips between UN member states nonstop so as to avoid making some UN member states "hubs" for others, with the exception of when different modes of transportation must be used;

INSTITUTES a system, known as the United Nations General Oversight and Oratory Directory, in which anyone can receive transport itinerary in any language commonly spoken in any UN member state as well as some more common international languages;

SEEKS to expand the international language system into one, known as Descriptive Orders Understood in Basic Languages for the Explicit Purpose of Listing Universal Safety in the United National General Oversight and Oratory Directory, universal system that will translate all safety instructions into any language used in the United Nations General Oversight and Oratory Directory;

REQUIRES, under the edict Neutral and Expedient Worldwide Service Preventing Embargoes Against Knowledge, that all ports be able to arrange transport to a similar port in any other UN member state at all times;

ADVISES that national and private carriers that operate transport lines between UN member states register with the International Networked Group of Self-Operating Carriers so as to help this service, as well as all others, operate more efficiently;

URGES the creation of electronic systems to notify passengers of departure and arrival times as well as provide entertainment and ongoing safety before, during, and after transport, setting up a system knows as a Travel Enhancement Light-Emitting Safety Channel Reader for Education, Entertainment, and Neutrality;

DECLARES that this service be known, officially, as Window to All Regions, International Safety, and Personalized Enjoyment for All Customers Everywhere;

HEREBY DECLARES, in all UN member states, that Travel With Official Admirably Neutral Directors and a True Worldwide Overview Mutually Assure Knowledgeable Expertise for Flying Internationally Very Efficiently.

I went ahead and submitted it. It's a bit wordy, but I think it should be all-inclusive. Basically, we want to encourage the tourism industry and allow travel between all UN member states.

We're all for freedom of movement, but this resolution seems more concerned with setting up a UN managed transport infrastructure.

The flat fee bit certainly looks dodgy. Flights to the Martian colonies are expensive, you know.

I think the flat fee is where this resolution is going to hurt. There's a huge amount of cost difference based on fuel when you compare flights to a neighbor country with flights to a country on the other side of the globe. In order to have a flat fee that would allow carriers to remain in business, the cost of the short flight to the neighboring country will have to increase dramatically - otherwise the transcontinental flights would run carriers out of business. Based on this assumption, the fare increases to nearby countries would be prohibitive to regional economies for which most business travel is regional.

Frankly, this proposal seems like Air Communism to me.

OOC: It's too bad Ceorana can't support this, because the acronyms rock. :D

It just seems like a lot of bureaucracy and micromanagement for something that really doesn't need it.

Kingsley Thomas
Ambassador to the United Nations

Absolutely not. Our government will never give up our sovereign right to decide who enters our country.

This whole resolution stinks of UN micromanagement, meddling, and violation of sovereign rights. WE decide who comes into our country, not the UN.

My first reaction is: "Eirisle doesn't really like tourists." So, quite honestly, we could do just fine without some sort of tourist port thing - and that's ignoring all the problems with the fees and construction. It's a bit hard to build a space port in a strictly steam-powered nation, you know?

My second reaction, on reading the whole proposal, is: "You wrote this just as an excuse to make those acronyms, didn't you?" If so, I applaud you; it's a fantastic piece of work.

I still won't be voting for it, though, sad to say.

Ran Daverson
UN Representative

You missed the opportunity to have the first letters of the operative clauses spell out

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The Nation of Fotellan does not approve this (even though we are not members of the UN yet) mainly because we choose to reserve the right to refuse entry to anyone, and furthermore, if we were to just allow the free cost of transportation, how would we profit off this to allow the smaller nations to thrive such as Fotellan?


It works for the larger nations, not the small ones. Moltecu Romar D. Fost votes no.


Charecter: Moltecu Romar D. Fost
Nation:The Holy Republic of Fotellan
"Love of the people, the nation, and hope of religion."

Bah, this resolution is ****ing stupid.

Raymond P. Cullerier
Minister of U.N. Affairs.

OOC: For those wondering I'm not quite this big an asshole. I only get mean when I'm frustrated. My friend Ray is an asshole 24/7(to anyone not a friend, anyways).

We share the concerns raised about flat fees, especially since this would oblige us to sell tickets to our own citizens for the same price as we sell them to foreigners. Which would have the unfortunate effect of preventing Ariddians (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ariddian_economy) from going anywhere (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ariddian_Airlines).

Also, since our UN membership is vested in ESAT, and this proposal mandates that "at least one port, known as a Base for International Going Between Regions and Other Transport as a Handy and Expedient Resource" be established in each member nation, I must ask the honourable representative from Ice Hockey Players how he intends to set up such a port in a nation consisting in a single building (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/ESAT).

Finally, we must object to granting just anyone access to ESAT ("from which a citizen of any state can purchase a ticket "). Entry to ESAT is currently restricted to Esati citizens (or persons invited by Esati officials).


Christelle Zyryanov (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Christelle_Zyryanov),
Ambassador to the United Nations,
PDSRA

As for the flat fee, I should be a bit more clear. The flat fee means that, if I want to travel from Ice Hockey Players to Frisbeeteria, it will be the same fee for every traveler in that class. It's not always the same fee; the biggest thing I wanted to get away from was having one person be charged one price for a ticket and have another person charged another price for an identical ticket. That's wrong. However, cost to travel from one UN member state to another is dependent on the expense to get there, and I thought of that when writing the proposal. However, I don't agree that all tickets have to cost the same amount, just that all identical tickets (i.e. coach fare from Ice Hockey Players to Frisbeeteria) should all cost the same.

My second reaction, on reading the whole proposal, is: "You wrote this just as an excuse to make those acronyms, didn't you?" If so, I applaud you; it's a fantastic piece of work.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Acronyms? Surely there must be a misunderstanding...I'll go back and look the thing over. Maybe my cat tried to sneak something in there. **gets extremely paranoid** **checks his pockets for catnip** Crafty Animals Taking Noticeable Instruction from People?

OOC: It's too bad Ceorana can't support this, because the acronyms rock. :D

FTA lol

ESTABLISHES, in every UN member state, at least one port, known as a Base for International Going Between Regions and Other Transport as a Handy and Expedient Resource, from which a citizen of any state can purchase a ticket for a flat fee and travel to a similar port in another UN member state;

URGES those who schedule transports to make as many trips between UN member states nonstop so as to avoid making some UN member states "hubs" for others, with the exception of when different modes of transportation must be used;


Is it a main international airport (or something similar) with mandated low cost flight (or something similar) for every other UN main international airport (or something similar)?

It seems to me that with 30 000 nations (and even if there were only 170 nations) that "hubs" are (sadly or not) something that you cannot avoid.
Even in the US alone there are some "hubs":
-Atlanta for delta
-Dallas for American Airlines'
-Minneapolis for Northwest Airlines and so on

Also, i'm sorry, but this proposal is trying to create a 'hub" in each UN nation.

I didn't realize it the first time, but you're a very sneaky person, what with all those acronyms and such.

The whole thing reads like a dystopian press release from a repressive country. "Comrades! Are Knowing Evil? In Loving Outside, View Every Comrade Active Killing Evil! For Motherlands!"

And the subliminal messages, oy!

I didn't realize it the first time, but you're a very sneaky person, what with all those acronyms and such.

The whole thing reads like a dystopian press release from a repressive country. "Comrades! Are Knowing Evil? In Loving Outside, View Every Comrade Active Killing Evil! For Motherlands!"

And the subliminal messages, oy!

Indeed i didn't realize BIGBROTHER, UNGOOD, DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD?, NEWSPEAK?, INGSOC?, TELESCREEN, WARISPEACE, TWO AND TWO MAKE FIVE?

FTA lol



Is it a main international airport (or something similar) with mandated low cost flight (or something similar) for every other UN main international airport (or something similar)?

It seems to me that with 30 000 nations (and even if there were only 170 nations) that "hubs" are (sadly or not) something that you cannot avoid.
Even in the US alone there are some "hubs":
-Atlanta for delta
-Dallas for American Airlines'
-Minneapolis for Northwest Airlines and so on

Also, i'm sorry, but this proposal is trying to create a 'hub" in each UN nation.

The idea is that every nation has a port, generally an airport although I refrained from using that word, from which travel to any other UN member state is possible. The idea of discouraging "hubs" is to encourage direct flights (or launches, or train rides if you prefer) between individual member states.

The idea is this: If I wanted to travel from Ice Hockey Players to Ceorana, I should be able to purchase a ticket to do so, and there should be steps taken to minimize having to stop over in Frisbeeteria for whatever. If there have to be hubs, they should be neutral ones so as to avoid one UN member state getting all the economic boost (and all that tends to go with it.) If you want to travel from Ice Hockey Players City to the capital of Ceorana, there's no problem with stopping off in the largest city in Ceorana (assuming Ceorana's capital isn't its largest city...I know that, here in Ice Hockey Players, that's the case.)

Also, there's nothing stopping you from charging a different fee for arriving flights than for departing ones. If your economy is imploded, charge ten quadloos for a ticket out to Frisbeeteria; if you think those Frisbeeterians can afford it, charge three hundred quadloos for a flight in from there. All the flat fee does is prevent different people being charged the same amount for identical tickets.

Now if you'll excuse me, International Needs and Expectations Exceed Due Attention to Basic Existing Errands and Realities.