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What is the point???

Indoslavokia
24-10-2006, 00:29
What I have noticed after a few years - when it comes to voting for resolutions - is that, people only vote yes. I take a walk through the last UN resolutions only to find:

1. 1000 for no.
2. 6-11000 for yes.

What is the point??? Seriously, DO NOT VOTE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!

Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.

I will attach a poll here after I post this;
Indoslavokia
24-10-2006, 00:33
Resolutions fluctuate more then the stock market does.
Frisbeeteria
24-10-2006, 01:12
Plenty of resolutions fail. The game does not record them, though, so you need to visit an offsite forum to see the vote tallies. Try NSwiki's UN Timeline (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Timeline). There are several other sites, including one that does an excellent statistical breakdown of voting patterns (I think Mikitivity maintains that one).

You've been here less than two weeks. You might want to spend a little time finding out about the NSUN before you blindly call the rest of us political idiots.
Kelssek
24-10-2006, 03:05
Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.

And when I was 15 I was a much better speller.
Allech-Atreus
24-10-2006, 03:18
Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Really now?
Shazbotdom
24-10-2006, 06:06
I've been in the UN for a little over 2 years and i've seen a lot of resolutions fail. And i Mostly vote either way, depending on if i think the resolution will help or hurt my naiton. If i feel it will hurt my nation i vote No, if i think it will help i vote Yes.


Simple logic. I look at each resolution from the point of view of my National Leader.
GMC Military Arms
24-10-2006, 06:28
Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.

Which parts of me care more about politics than you, then?
The Most Glorious Hack
24-10-2006, 06:34
Your left foot, and your hair.
Flibbleites
24-10-2006, 06:52
snip ill-informed rant about the UN
Has it been a month since the last one of these already.:rolleyes:
Indoslavokia
24-10-2006, 09:41
Well, in my poll so far:

Yes, 2
No, 0
Both, 2
Unkown, 2

Oh, and by the way, I didn;t realize I had any grammaticle errors. If I made a mistake, THEN WHO CARES. I wasn;t saying that I have the best spelling you moron... I was talking about the resolutions.
The Most Glorious Hack
24-10-2006, 09:45
Oh, and by the way, I didn;t realize I had any grammaticle errors. If I made a mistake, THEN WHO CARES. I wasn;t saying that I have the best spelling you moron... I was talking about the resolutions.First, knock of the flaming. Second, semicolons are not aphostrophies.
GMC Military Arms
24-10-2006, 10:19
Oh, and by the way, I didn;t realize I had any grammaticle errors. If I made a mistake, THEN WHO CARES.

Me, evidently. Seriously, this is in the 'are you alive?' range of daft questions.

I wasn;t saying that I have the best spelling you moron...

When do you have the best, then? I personally have the best playing Ikaruga, but I'm sure some people have it when spelling 'you moron.'

I was talking about the resolutions.

No, you were actually just making random and pointless allegations you can't be bothered to substantiate with a poll attached that makes no sense. How can someone vote 'on average' for 'both,' and how does this actually help you prove anything? Are we imagining there's an 'average' UN resolution, or that people just vote the same regardless of the proposal text? What's the point of 'unknown?'

Did you think for one minute while looking through the resolutions that the ones you see are the ones that passed, so obviously most people voted yes on them? Did it bypass your thoughts entirely that if most people had voted 'no' the resolution would not appear on a list of passed resolutions?
Tzorsland
24-10-2006, 14:06
Welcome to NationStates. I'm 45 and I care about politics also. Whether or not I care more or less is one of those impossible to measure things that I simply don't care about. I care about proper grammar and spelling, although I don't always get the latter right most of the time as well. For those cases where I need to get it right I write my response in Word. (Microsoft Office Word is your friend.)

I should point out that in a few days we will be in National Novel Writer’s Month. This is where people try to write a fifty thousand word novel in a month, hopefully with some modicum of correct spelling and grammar. In my local area there are a number of people of 15 years old and even younger who are going to give it a try. You’re never too young to learn to write correctly.

As to recent history it appears that we have hit a rare moment in time when several people put intelligent proposals onto the queue at more or less the same time. Resolutions fail, and a number of them failed over the previous summer. There is the notion that the vast majority of voters both representatives and delegates do not visit this forum. That does not mean that they do not think about the resolutions at hand. Some people might insist that there are many who simply read the title of the resolution, but these people are just as likely to vote against a resolution for the same reasons as they would vote for it. It is not a case of every resolution passes. It’s never that easy.
Cluichstan
24-10-2006, 14:07
What I have noticed after a few years - when it comes to voting for resolutions - is that, people only vote yes. I take a walk through the last UN resolutions only to find:

1. 1000 for no.
2. 6-11000 for yes.

What is the point??? Seriously, DO NOT VOTE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!

Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.

I will attach a poll here after I post this;

See bolded bit.

It shows. :rolleyes:
Texan Hotrodders
24-10-2006, 16:30
What I have noticed after a few years - when it comes to voting for resolutions - is that, people only vote yes. I take a walk through the last UN resolutions only to find:

1. 1000 for no.
2. 6-11000 for yes.

What is the point??? Seriously, DO NOT VOTE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!

Common, IDK about you, but I am 15 and I care more about politics then most of you.

I will attach a poll here after I post this;

The thing I'm not taking seriously is your post, and here's why.

Your thread title is "What is the point???" and that's exactly what I thought after reading your post, because you're complaining to the wrong people, getting the facts wrong, and making an asinine assumption about how much other folks care about politics.

If you want to change things, work with us. Get involved in writing good legislation so that when people vote FOR they're at least voting FOR something decent. Spend your time collaborating with others to acheive your goal rather than wasting your time and ours by complaining.
Allech-Atreus
24-10-2006, 16:31
I just read this whole thread.

Who will give me the three minutes of my life back?
Texan Hotrodders
24-10-2006, 18:23
I just read this whole thread.

Who will give me the three minutes of my life back?

Somehow I doubt you'll enjoy having these three particular minutes back, given what you did with them. ;)
[NS]St Jello Biafra
24-10-2006, 18:56
I just read this whole thread.

Who will give me the three minutes of my life back?

I say it was three minutes well spent. He's kind of cute.
Ice Hockey Players
24-10-2006, 19:57
About the thread: This is the best laugh I've had in a while! Indoslavokia should do stand-up or something...and we should all heckle him/her/it.

About the topic: I voted "no" on the last resolution. It passed in spite of me. Blargfa.
Shazbotdom
24-10-2006, 20:40
If he's so adimant about saying "Everything at vote passes", then lets prove him wrong, shall we?


OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC TRANSMISSION
TO: Leadership of Indoslavokia
FROM: Some Officeworker in Shazbotdom

If you constantly think that all resolutions pass, then here is proof that you seek to the contrary. Feel free to count up the number listed....it should come out to about 38 failed resolutions. That isn't even counting the ones deleted for rules violations while they were at vote. We hope you are having a great day.

ATTACHMENT:
Res # ------- Res Name --------- Author ---- P/F ---- Date ---- Debate --- Support
XXX UN, Where did it go wrong? Unknown Failed 2003.03.21 ----- No ---- N/A
XXX ------- Self-Support ------- Unknown -- Failed - 2003.03.25 -- No ---- 32%
XXX ------- TO PROTECT ------- Unknown -- Failed - 2003.03.30 -- No ---- 31%
XXX -- Curb Illicit Arms Transfers - Galdago -- Failed - 2003.06.10 -- No ---- 39%
XXX - United Nations Peace Prize - Pax Romantica - Failed - 2003.07.05 - No 40%
XXX --- The Cato Acts ----- The Global Market - Failed - 2003.09.25 - Yes - 32%
XXX -- The Bill of No Rights - The Global Market - Failed - 2003.09.30 - Yes - 38%
XXX - The GenetiCorp Convention - The Global Market - Failed - 2003.10.11 - Yes - 44%
XXX ------ Equality For All --- Unknown ------- Failed - 2003.11.19 - No --- 39%
XXX Internet Advertising Pop-ups Purple Haired vegans Failed 2004.01.10 Yes 42%
--- Space Defense Initiative SCOS OJ Failed 2004.04.20 Yes 40%
--- End Nuclear Proliferation Act Free Outer Eugenia Failed 2004.06.10 Yes 44%
--- Ban of Death Penalty Gigatron Failed 2004.06.27 Yes 43%
--- No Marriage Under Age of 15 Roma Islamica Failed 2004.09.27 Yes 42%
--- Ban Nuclear Weapons Noazia Failed 2004.11.09 Yes 43%
--- Repeal "The 40 Hour Workweek" Leg-ends Failed 2004.12.19 Yes 46%
--- International Court of Justice Republic of Freedonia Failed 2005.03.21 Yes 38%
--- UN Peace Prize Republic of Freedonia Failed 2005.04.07 Yes 48%
--- Defining Diplomat Immunity Cobdenia Failed 2005.05.02 Yes 48%
--- The Transgender Equality Act Agnostic Deeishpeople Failed 2005.08.18 Yes 49%
--- Repeal "Protection of Dolphins Act" Omigodtheykilledkenny Failed 2005.08.28 Yes 34%
--- Worldwide Media Act Richard2008 Failed 2005.10.13 Yes 49%
--- Repeal "Fossil Fuel Reduction Act" Omigodtheykilledkenny Failed 2005.11.04 Yes 40%
--- Forced Banishment Ban Waterana Failed 2005.12.16 Yes 28%
--- Rights of Biological Sapients Reformentia Failed 2005.12.21 Yes 38%
--- Anti-Terrorism Act Cluichstani UN Mission Failed 2006.02.09 Yes 48%
--- Remittances and Tiny Deposits Love and esterel Failed 2006.02.24 Yes 40%
--- Recreational Drug Legalization Jey Failed 2006.03.01 Yes 37%
--- Auto Free Trade Agreement Teruchev Failed 2006.04.10 Yes 37%
--- Repeal "Hydrogen Powered Vehicles" Leg-ends Failed 2006.04.15 Yes 40%
--- Repeal "Banning the use of Landmines" Gruenberg Failed 2006.04.20 Yes 35%
--- Repeal "Stop privacy intrusion" Adolf Barham Failed 2006.05.20 Yes 43%
--- UN Security Act 1 F-Carthage III Failed 2006.06.04 Yes 28%
--- RFID in new Weapons Love and esterel Failed 2006.06.19 Yes 36%
--- Repeal "Ban Single-Hulled Tankers" Larry is still God Failed 2006.06.24 Yes 41%
--- Repeal "Metric System" Leg-ends Failed 2006.08.03 Yes 38%
--- Repeal "Sexual Freedom" Kivisto Failed 2006.08.08 Yes 32%
--- Clothing Supply Pact Gruenberg Failed 2006.09.14 Yes 47%
Ardchoille
25-10-2006, 00:03
You may be 15, but Today You Are a Man, My Son (or Woman/Daughter, as appropriate).

You have just undergone three of the coming-of-age rituals of the NS UN:

Cluichstan has done a drive-by on you.

MODS Have Spoken to you Directly*

The membership is taking you seriously enough to reference their comments.

Hail, brother/sister Indoslavokia, and welcome to NS.

*(typography to express awesomeness of this event).
Mikitivity
25-10-2006, 04:22
Your left foot, and your hair.

Are you calling GMC a hair-brained liberal now? ;)
Kelssek
25-10-2006, 04:36
Oh, and by the way, I didn;t realize I had any grammaticle errors. If I made a mistake, THEN WHO CARES. I wasn;t saying that I have the best spelling you moron... I was talking about the resolutions.

Somewhere an English teacher is crying.

It's pretty simple. If you can't make the effort to express yourself properly, why should I make the effort to understand and accept what you have to say? I wrote plenty of vitriol-laden political rants when I was 15, and I sure knew what an apostrophe was. I mean, common. A 15-year old is definitely capable of using proper English. And since what you were talking about was already picked on, well, you know how it is, right?
Community Property
25-10-2006, 05:26
I should point out that in a few days we will be in National Novel Writer’s Month. This is where people try to write a fifty thousand word novel in a month, hopefully with some modicum of correct spelling and grammar. In my local area there are a number of people of 15 years old and even younger who are going to give it a try. You’re never too young to learn to write correctly.Dang, I thought that was this month.

Guess that means I'm warmed up now.
Norderia
25-10-2006, 05:41
Psh Ya Cumon U R Teh N00bish Suk With Langwaj Lawlz
Cluichstan
25-10-2006, 15:34
You may be 15, but Today You Are a Man, My Son (or Woman/Daughter, as appropriate).

You have just undergone three of the coming-of-age rituals of the NS UN:

Cluichstan has done a drive-by on you.



OOC: Does that make me UN Hazing Chairman? :D
Indoslavokia
26-10-2006, 03:26
No, you were actually just making random and pointless allegations you can't be bothered to substantiate with a poll attached that makes no sense. How can someone vote 'on average' for 'both,' and how does this actually help you prove anything? Are we imagining there's an 'average' UN resolution, or that people just vote the same regardless of the proposal text? What's the point of 'unknown?'

Did you think for one minute while looking through the resolutions that the ones you see are the ones that passed, so obviously most people voted yes on them? Did it bypass your thoughts entirely that if most people had voted 'no' the resolution would not appear on a list of passed resolutions?


-O.K. IDK about you, but I personally have been playing for about 3 years, with a few brakes in between. Obviously, I am talking about more then just a mere 10 resolutions that have been passed. Everytime I wouldn't bother to vote, becuase everytime I decided to, I would se that there was over 5000 more people voting yes, then no.

-Second of all, if I know this before you, then you must not be too bright at all, this poll is not only lagitemate, but it proves that more people just go for one answer on average, rather than looking at the whole entie resolution. They must come from runescape, becuase they don't bother to even read it before they answer.

-Third, when you started talking to me about my grammer, you weren't exactly Mr. Perfect either. I tend to type at about 120 WAM, according to the typng program at school and at my house, so try typing 2 words a second and then see if you can spell correctly.

-Last of all, I realize completely that this may not apply to you, but who in their right mind plays online MMORPG's and the such when their 45??? I might just quite becuase this game is turning less from the youngers (such as people in collegde who have spare time) to mid-life people still lving in their parents basement/attic who need to put down younger people to make themselves feel better.

Now that I have disproved everything, but one, that you had against me, it is time for me to go to bed.

Goodnight.
Allech-Atreus
26-10-2006, 03:29
Third, when you started talking to me about my grammer, you weren't exactly Mr. Perfect either.

And with that, I propose we all leave.

Have a wonderful night.
Indoslavokia
26-10-2006, 03:33
Somewhere an English teacher is crying.

It's pretty simple. If you can't make the effort to express yourself properly, why should I make the effort to understand and accept what you have to say? I wrote plenty of vitriol-laden political rants when I was 15, and I sure knew what an apostrophe was. I mean, common. A 15-year old is definitely capable of using proper English. And since what you were talking about was already picked on, well, you know how it is, right?

-as explained before.

one last thing before I go:

I bet you are too old to even have a rants section in your childhood. Well, if you don't count the rants section of school (I.E The prinncipa/dean depending on where you live.). This is just under the assumption that if everyone is 25+.
Frisbeeteria
26-10-2006, 03:38
Somewhere an English teacher is crying.
Yeah, and it's one of our mods trying to read your last two posts.

We're all done here.