NationStates Jolt Archive

The resolution Outlaw Necrophilia was passed 8,526 votes to 6,028

The Commonwealth of Schwarzchild has made clear it's position on resolutions that dictate (as others say "suggest") "moral decency" matters to UN member states.

I would like to add a personal thanks to all of the delegates that closed the gap and registered nays on behalf of their regions, as such as Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Schwarzchild it my duty to put this body on notice.

This body's willingness to assert itself over each nation state's national sovereignty is unacceptable.

Each nation state retains national sovereignty on this matter, and although we as a nation submit to the rules of the body, we accept your "suggestion" and ignore it's implementation. Why? Our national laws regarding behavior such as necrophilia exceed in strength this resolution that just passed.

I once again reprimand this body for it's arrogance and it's insouiciance. I reprimand the delegates that allowed this resolution to reach the floor. I reprimand the resolution author and I hold in extreme contempt the lack of judgement exercised by this body and it's members.

The Commonwealth of Schwarzchild will be sending an observer to report upon the activity of this body, until this body understands it's responsibilities and can ascertain the difference between a waste of time (such as this now enshrined stinking pile of garbage masquerading as a mild strength resolution) and a serious proposal that actually addresses IMPORTANT international matters in an intelligent and considerate way, my nation has no choice but to reconsider it's membership in this body. The Secretary General of this body will be notified within six months if we intend to continue participating in this body.

Good day.

Sir Geoffrey Gosford
Prime Minister of Schwarzchild
Region of the West Pacific
Associate Justice- The Court of the West Pacific
"Regional Curmudgeon"

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/credits to Waterana

my nation has no choice but to reconsider it's membership in this body. The Secretary General of this body will be notified within six months if we intend to continue participating in this body.

Dibs on bagsying his office!

This is an outrage! Since the ban on necrophilia, my nation has face a budget deficit of millions of shiblons! Thousands of therapy addicts are stepping forward claiming to be necrophiliacs in order to lay claim to the free counseling and therapy that we are required, (By the UN resolution, mind you,) to give them. Up untill now our nation has had almost zero reported cases of necrophilia. But since the passing of the ban these false-confesors have been coming out of the wood work. The only options I see is for my nation, against the resolution, are to either discontinue the UN required counseling and therapy, or severly limit the amount of money spent in funding these false-necrophiliacs.

This is an outrage! Since the ban on necrophilia, my nation has face a budget deficit of millions of shiblons! Thousands of therapy addicts are stepping forward claiming to be necrophiliacs in order to lay claim to the free counseling and therapy that we are required, (By the UN resolution, mind you,) to give them. Up untill now our nation has had almost zero reported cases of necrophilia. But since the passing of the ban these false-confesors have been coming out of the wood work. The only options I see is for my nation, against the resolution, are to either discontinue the UN required counseling and therapy, or severly limit the amount of money spent in funding these false-necrophiliacs.

You've been CALLED UPON to do something. That doesn't mean you have to do it.

[quote]You've been CALLED UPON to do something. That doesn't mean you have to do it.[/quote[

So, this resolution basically forces us to do nothing whatsoever.

So then...why exactly was it created?

[quote]You've been CALLED UPON to do something. That doesn't mean you have to do it.[/quote[

So, this resolution basically forces us to do nothing whatsoever.

So then...why exactly was it created?

As a statement of principle. As a call for nations to take action.

The way I think about mild proposals - and this is only my way of thinking, not anyone else's - is that, when they pass, a gnome comes storming into your legislature. The gnome fires a few wild shots and tells you to change your laws. Your legislature is either intimidated into passing the appropriate laws or stands its ground and doesn't.

As a statement of principle. As a call for nations to take action.

The way I think about mild proposals - and this is only my way of thinking, not anyone else's - is that, when they pass, a gnome comes storming into your legislature. The gnome fires a few wild shots and tells you to change your laws. Your legislature is either intimidated into passing the appropriate laws or stands its ground and doesn't.

It puts the opinions in the Resolution into the book as the UN's stance on the subject.

Which is why I particularly hate preambulatory clauses in repeals, as those cannot be struck later.

<snip>My apologies to you and to Karmicaria for letting a pissy mood impact posting.

Congratulations to Karmicaria on a successful campaign.

It puts the opinions in the Resolution into the book as the UN's stance on the subject.It puts the opinions on its skin, or it gets the hose again!

It puts the opinions on its skin, or it gets the hose again!

PUT THE GOD DAMN OPINION INTO THE GOD DAMN BOOKS!

PUT THE GOD DAMN OPINION INTO THE GOD DAMN BOOKS!

No need to yell. It will get done. :p

Which is why I particularly hate preambulatory clauses in repeals, as those cannot be struck later.

It depends ... for administrative points, I think they are fine. But when used in excess to convey opinions, I agree with you.

Though they are a way to communicate a position / justification to thousands of voters without having to conduct the most intense telegram campaign EVAR! ;)

K,

Congrats on getting the resolution adopted. I have a pretty solid article up on NSWiki ... all that is missing is a summary of the positions on the debate, but I think my hands will be busy tomorrow.

all that is missing is a summary of the positions on the debate, but I think my hands will be busy tomorrow.

Lack of international issue
Subjective nature of the morals of the handling of corpses
And a minor point about the disproportionate concern over the health risks.

OOC: Congratulations, Karmicaria, on what will no doubt become one of many successful resolutions.

IC: Ardchoille is grateful to the Karmicarian delegation for expanding the areas into which the UN may appropriately delve.

Ausserland has already given notice of plans for the vital International Convention on Jay-Walking. We ourselves are tentatively drafting the NS United Nations Rules for the Proper Conduct of High-School Formals.

We must thank you, too, on behalf of nations where unemployment is a problem. We foresee vast increases in the numbers of cemetery and mortuary guards, despite some original difficulties in some quarters in convincing their citizens that the purpose of such guards is to keep visitors out, rather than residents in.

Lack of international issue

Which includes such resolutions as:
Child Pornography Prohibition
Rights of the Disabled
Hearing Impaired Aid Act
etc.

Clearly there is a case that there are issues of fundamental scope that are not always "international" that can be addressed internationally.

Which includes such resolutions as:
Child Pornography Prohibition
Rights of the Disabled
Hearing Impaired Aid Act
etc.

Clearly there is a case that there are issues of fundamental scope that are not always "international" that can be addressed internationally.

The representative of Tzorsland is quite correct. Inder the rules, the NSUN can address almost any issue it wishes. The fact that it can, however, doesn't mean it should. We remain firmly committed to the principle of subsidiarity, which leads us to conclude that this international body should address issues only when those issues should be addressed at this level.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

The representative of Tzorsland is quite correct. Inder the rules, the NSUN can address almost any issue it wishes. The fact that it can, however, doesn't mean it should.

Correct. My argument was that the international card is not the only valid argument for a NS UN resolution. The other card is the universal card, an argument for a significant fundamental right that we, as a body, are determined to proclaim. Outlaw Necrophilia got a pretty good showing of the nations in the vote, so many in fact that it passed dispite feeder opposition!

All of the resolutions I mentioned involved rights; this one involved rights that extended after death, but they are rights never the less. I would say that the UN is very much qualified in declaring those rights, as long as it is done by a significant majority and not by a margin that might be easily repealed on the next resolution.