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Continuity Of Government

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability


Strength: Significant


Proposed by: Iron Felix

The General Assembly of The United Nations,

ALARMED by the possibility of the destruction of the United Nations building complex by acts of war, terrorist acts and/or natural disasters;

CONCERNED that the resultant loss of life would lead to a disruption of the normal functioning of the General Assembly and the numerous UN committees;

DETERMINED to ensure that the United Nations continues to function in the event of any man-made or natural disaster which results in the death or incapacitation of significant numbers of its member delegations;

HEREBY enacts the following:

1. All member nations will designate an official within their government who shall have the authority to immediately function as an acting UN ambassador.

2. All member nations will maintain a list of qualified individuals who would be available to immediately fill vacancies in critical positions on their UN delegations.

3. All member nations will establish procedures to ensure that an acting UN delegation shall be assembled and dispatched to a predetermined location in a timely manner.

4. Acting delegations shall be vested with full authority to exercise their nations UN powers and privileges until such time as a permanent delegation is appointed by their government.

5. The United Nations hereby establishes the United Nations Emergency Preparedness Committee (UNEPC). The duties of the UNEPC shall be:
a. The selection of a suitable location for the General Assembly to be reassembled in the event of any man-made or natural disaster which requires that the current facilities be completely vacated.
b. The re-staffing of all UN Committees.
c. To ensure that the day to day business of the United Nations is conducted until such time as a new General Assembly is seated.

6. Aram Koopman is hereby designated as chairman of the UNEPC and is charged with ensuring the survival of the United Nations.

7. Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel is hereby designated vice-chairman of the UNEPC. Should the chairman, Aram Koopman, be unable to fulfill his duties, the chairmanship shall pass to the aforementioned Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel.

8. Furthermore, Mr. Koopman and Mr. Biscuitbarrel are given full authority to deploy Inflatable Gandalfs as they see fit.

9. Calls for the eradication of Order Cetacae.

10. Calls for the immediate deployment of Mad Sheep Railguns.

11. Affirms that Hippos are indeed quite large.

Well?

Original discussion thread Here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476357)

The white text didn't seem to translate into the submitted proposal, unfortunately.

Not a bad idea, but how does it "restrict political freedoms"? I do realise that it's either the UN Secretariat or their Gnomes who insert that line into all 'Political Stability' proposals, rather than those proposals' own authors, but they do seem to insist that proposals in this catgeory can't be 'legal' unless they have an effect along those lines...

The white text didn't seem to translate into the submitted proposal, unfortunately.
I don't know what you're talking about. No comment.

Not a bad idea, but how does it "restrict political freedoms"? I do realise that it's either the UN Secretariat or their Gnomes who insert that line into all 'Political Stability' proposals, rather than those proposals' own authors, but they do seem to insist that proposals in this catgeory can't be 'legal' unless they have an effect along those lines...
OOC: It doesn't fit well in any category. I suppose it would restrict political freedoms at the national level by requiring national governments to alter the way they staff their UN delegations. It isn't Furtherment of Democracy either, even though it doesn't say that these officials can't be elected.

IC: *Glares at the St Edmundan representative while cleaning a vintage Tokarev TT-33 semi-automatic.*

*cough* He's talking about sections 6 through 11 *end cough*

6. Aram Koopman is hereby designated as chairman of the UNEPC and is charged with ensuring the survival of the United Nations.

7. Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel is hereby designated vice-chairman of the UNEPC. Should the chairman, Aram Koopman, be unable to fulfill his duties, the chairmanship shall pass to the aforementioned Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel.

8. Furthermore, Mr. Koopman and Mr. Biscuitbarrel are given full authority to deploy Inflatable Gandalfs as they see fit.

9. Calls for the eradication of Order Cetacae.

10. Calls for the immediate deployment of Mad Sheep Railguns.

11. Affirms that Hippos are indeed quite large.

I suppose some clarification is in order concerning Iron Felix. I know that many of you have been, shall we say, alarmed by his appearance in these halls. We, um, would have prefered not to discuss this matter publically as it is a matter of national security. However, word would have gotten out anyway and so as to prevent rumors and innuendo from spreading we decided to make this statement.

Though it was never intended to be such, Yeldan UN Mission has over time evolved into an actual nation with billions of citizens and its own interests and agendas rather than just "the office of Yeldan UN Affairs". Earlier this year, it was decided that Yeldan UN Mission would be retired and replaced with a new diplomatic team whose sole focus would be representing Yeldan interests at the UN. On 30 February of this year, a team of agents from the Yeldan Committee for State Security was dispatched to Earth (or RL, as it is sometimes called here) to "procure" a new Yeldan UN ambassador. Their instructions were to exume the body of noted diplomat and humanitarian Dag Hammarskjold which would then be reanimated using methods which are far too technical (and disturbing, not to mention secret) to be discussed here. Trust me, we can do these things. Anyway, the mission was going as planned and confidence was high...right up to the point where it didn't go as planned and confidence began to be not so high anymore, at which point they, erm, went to Russia and exumed Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky instead. He now our UN ambassador.

We are very happy with Comrade Dzerzhinsky and believe he is doing a fine job. He's new at this, but we are certain that he will grow into his duties and continue the proud traditions of Yeldan UN diplomacy.

In closing, I would ask two favors of my colleagues:
1. Do not refer to him as a zombie. He's a human being, dammit!
2. Please try to ignore the smell. I'm told that the process of reanimating flesh takes some time and it will eventually go away. It's really not that bad anyway.

I now yield the floor to Iron Felix! *claps. smiles warmly at Felix.*


OOC: I'll be RPing Felix as a "person", not a nation. Who would name a country Iron Felix anyway?

*claps. smiles warmly at Felix.*
*Glowers at the Yeldan Foreign Minister.*

*cough* He's talking about sections 6 through 11 *end cough*
Yes, and?

Ok I didn't know who "Iron Felix" is in our litterature, so I checked:

He is indeed "Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky", the founder with Lenin in 1917 of the Cheka (The first of the forerunners of the KGB)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Edmundovich_Dzerzhinsky

Ambassador Ahlmann: "Hey, Hurl! Did you catch what this Iron Felix guy's name is... er... used to be?"

Ambassador Barfanger: "Yeah."

Ambassador Ahlmann: "When's the last time you changed the combinations on the safes?"

Ambassador Barfanger: "Uh... I'll be right back."

Ambassador Ahlmann: "Hey, Hurl! Did you catch what this Iron Felix guy's name is... er... used to be?"

Ambassador Barfanger: "Yeah."

Ambassador Ahlmann: "When's the last time you changed the combinations on the safes?"

Ambassador Barfanger: "Uh... I'll be right back."
There is no need for such measures. There was nothing in your "safes" that interested me.

Ok I didn't know who "Iron Felix" is in our litterature, so I checked:

He is indeed "Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky", the founder with Lenin in 1917 of the Cheka (The first of the forerunners of the KGB)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Edmundovich_Dzerzhinsky
We will be taking steps to derail this "wikipedia" operation. They know too much, though much of it is inaccurate. Still.

Ok I didn't know who "Iron Felix" is in our litterature, so I checked:

He is indeed "Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky", the founder with Lenin in 1917 of the Cheka (The first of the forerunners of the KGB)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Edmundovich_Dzerzhinsky

Our delegation requires someone on our staff to read every such resource provided to the assembly.

Iron Felix is a spooky individual!

Continuance of government is an important issue. We could support a version of this, but we need to examine this text more thoroughly before we can give more support then that.

We will be taking steps to derail this "wikipedia" operation. They know too much, though much of it is inaccurate. Still.

Your threats do not amuse us. Such distributed wiki operations won't be trifled with by any nationalists. Harming the wikinet far exceeds your reach, sir.

OOC: Never mind, don't reply here, too OT. Reply here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11599508

Your threats do not amuse us. Such distributed wiki operations won't be trifled with by any nationalists. Harming the wikinet far exceeds your reach, sir.

OOC: Never mind, don't reply here, too OT. Reply here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11599508
*Throws Discoraversalism out the window*

*Throws Discoraversalism out the window*

Hey sorry to intrude, I'm Johny RedShirt an intern sent by the Discoraversalist delegation? I read the draft on the way here.

Must our Ambassador be any more then a figure head? This draft seems to give all powers to the delegation right?

We prefer a powerful delegation, with a weak figure head. Our system of government doesn't invest any individuals with much power.

-Johny RedShirt
-Intern For Hire!

This draft seems to give all powers to the delegation right?
It doesn't change anything in regards to the power structure within your delegation. That is for your nation to decide. It lays out measures which must be undertaken to ensure that your nation has a delegation should some unfortunate occurance befall the current one.

It doesn't change anything in regards to the power structure within your delegation. That is for your nation to decide. It lays out measures which must be undertaken to ensure that your nation has a delegation should some unfortunate occurance befall the current one.

But we have to have an Ambassador?

But we have to have an Ambassador?
OOC: Traditionally, players have RPed their UN delegations as being headed by an ambassador. I suppose you could have the delegation headed by a committee or have several co-ambassadors if you wanted to do it that way.

But we have to have an Ambassador?
OOC: You don't have to call him/her an ambassador. Heck, I call my UN character a representative.

*Throws Discoraversalism out the window*Discoraversalism has been defenestrated!

Discoraversalism has been defenestrated!

(Pulls out wikinet link), you just wanted to use that word!

It appears our ambassador has been denfenestrated. I have been told we won't be appointing a new ambassador, the delegation will rule itself by some democratic method of it's choosing. Um, I guess they'll keep sending interns to speak? At least until a new clone of stu roles out.

-Johny RedShirt
-Intern For Hire!

Bah! it was deleted. *stares icily at random persons*

OOC: It was deleted because of the large white space (no warning added, thanks mods). Would it be safe to infer that the proposal is otherwise legal?

Bah! it was deleted. *stares icily at random persons*

OOC: It was deleted because of the large white space (no warning added, thanks mods). Would it be safe to infer that the proposal is otherwise legal?

Do you end every sentence with a threat? (Slowly reloads his nerf Ballzooka).

Do you end every sentence with a threat?
*Cold, black eyes stare at the Discoraversalist representative*

Sometimes I end them with a promise. Allow me to apologize if my demeanor seems disturbing to you. Life has been a bit unusual lately. I went to sleep in Moskva and when I awoke I was in Yelda. I'm told that this sometimes happens to people.

*Cold, black eyes stare at the Discoraversalist representative*

Sometimes I end them with a promise. Allow me to apologize if my demeanor seems disturbing to you. Life has been a bit unusual lately. I went to sleep in Moskva and when I awoke I was in Yelda. I'm told that this sometimes happens to people.

Did your delegation appoint a new ambassador when you dissapeared? Did you return smelling like Vodka?

Aram Koopman? NO! We've had enough burning throughout Enn, we don't need more here!

Anegri Favon,
Rather Scared UN Rep for the Remnants of Enn

Aram Koopman? NO!
The honorable Mr. Koopman is eminently qualified for this job!

Isn't there a metagamaing violation in having UN member nations assign ambassadors and compile a list of replacements?

I seem to remember Gruenberg's Accountability proposal being deemed illegal for one reason or another, though I can't remember the official ruling.

I slay me. :rolleyes:
It would be well if you were to do so and save us the trouble. There will be no more discussion of the merits of the honorable Mr. Koopman nor scurrilous comments about his past.

Isn't there a metagamaing violation in having UN member nations assign ambassadors and compile a list of replacements?

I seem to remember Gruenberg's Accountability proposal being deemed illegal for one reason or another, though I can't remember the official ruling.
SILENCE REACTIONARY PIGDOG! What is this metagaming violation you speak of? Do you imply that we have committed an illegal act?

OOC: That's what I was wondering about. It was deleted because of the large white space but there was no mention in the TG about any other illegalities. I think the part dealing with committees (and therefore Gnomes) is probably metagaming. The parts dealing with ambassadors and delegations is just RP though.

Isn't there a metagamaing violation in having UN member nations assign ambassadors and compile a list of replacements?

I seem to remember Gruenberg's Accountability proposal being deemed illegal for one reason or another, though I can't remember the official ruling.

OOC: Mine was never declared illegal, inasmuch as it never got that far. Hack said that had we carried on towards submission, he probably would have called my proposal, Tarmsden's deficit one, and Hirota's charter, illegal. It was for category violation: ours were affecting the UN, not its member nations.

Therefore, I think this could be made legal, because despite referencing the UN, and edging towards committee violations, it is actually affecting member nations too.

SILENCE REACTIONARY PIGDOG! What is this metagaming violation you speak of? Do you imply that we have committed an illegal act?


This whole resolution troubles me. I'm getting the impression someone is going to start hunting delegates.

This whole resolution troubles me. I'm getting the impression someone is going to start hunting delegates.

YEE HAW! Time to start the delegate hunt! I think I'll start with that one there from Disconversealism or however the heck you say it.

http://bak42.notworksafe.com/images/hohohaha.jpg
Larry McMurphy
Union Boss of Redneck Mechanics

I think I'll start with that one there from Disconversealism or however the heck you say it.
He's hiding under that desk. Circle around to the side and I'll flush him out.

Therefore, I think this could be made legal, because despite referencing the UN, and edging towards committee violations, it is actually affecting member nations too.
I think if Article 5 were eliminated or if the duties of the committee were changed to only reference the delegations and not the UN itself, it would be legal.

The General Assembly of The United Nations,

ALARMED by the possibility of the destruction of the United Nations building complex by acts of war, terrorist acts and/or natural disasters;

CONCERNED that the resultant loss of life would lead to a disruption of the normal functioning of the General Assembly and the numerous UN committees;

DETERMINED to ensure that the United Nations continues to function in the event of any man-made or natural disaster which results in the death or incapacitation of significant numbers of its member delegations;

HEREBY enacts the following:

1. All member nations will designate an official within their government who shall have the authority to immediately function as an acting UN ambassador.

2. All member nations will maintain a list of qualified individuals who would be available to immediately fill vacancies in critical positions on their UN delegations.

3. All member nations will establish procedures to ensure that an acting UN delegation shall be assembled in a timely manner.

4. Acting delegations shall be vested with full authority to exercise their nations UN powers and privileges until such time as a permanent delegation is appointed by their government.
Would this be legal?

When doing a legality check, please give category and strength as well.

When doing a legality check, please give category and strength as well.
This is another of those that doesn't fit well in any category. When I did the test submission it was "Political Stability", significant. My reasoning was that while it doesn't restrict the political freedom of individuals, it does restrict the political freedom of national governments by forcing them to alter how they staff their UN delegations. And it would increase law and order (hopefully).

Hm. I'm not sure I especially like this. With some trimming, it could probably be made legal, but I'm not comfortable with all that stuff about the UN building.

Hm. I'm not sure I especially like this. With some trimming, it could probably be made legal, but I'm not comfortable with all that stuff about the UN building.
You mean the stuff in the preamble? The operative clauses are OK then?

What if I did something like this:
The General Assembly of The United Nations,

ALARMED by the possibility that war, terrorist acts and/or natural disasters could lead to the deaths of numerous UN member delegations;

CONCERNED that widespread loss of these member delegations would lead to a disruption of the normal functioning of the United Nations;

DETERMINED to ensure that the United Nations continues to function in the event of any man-made or natural disaster which results in the death or incapacitation of significant numbers of its member delegations;

HEREBY enacts the following:

1. All member nations will designate an official within their government who shall have the authority to immediately function as an acting UN ambassador.

2. All member nations will maintain a list of qualified individuals who would be available to immediately fill vacancies in critical positions on their UN delegations.

3. All member nations will establish procedures to ensure that an acting UN delegation shall be assembled in a timely manner.

4. Acting delegations shall be vested with full authority to exercise their nations UN powers and privileges until such time as a permanent delegation is appointed by their government.

I'm afraid we cannot support this proposal without the inclusion on these two clauses from the original draft:

7. Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel is hereby designated vice-chairman of the UNEPC. Should the chairman, Aram Koopman, be unable to fulfill his duties, the chairmanship shall pass to the aforementioned Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel.

8. Furthermore, Mr. Koopman and Mr. Biscuitbarrel are given full authority to deploy Inflatable Gandalfs as they see fit.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

OOC: Sorry. I had to. :p

OOC: Sorry. I had to. :p
OOC: I tried. It was deleted because the submitted proposal contained "huge blocks of white space".

OOC: I tried. It was deleted because the submitted proposal contained "huge blocks of white space".

OOC: I know. Would've been a riot if it'd slipped through, though. :D

Sheik Nadnerb's assistant, Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel, stands by, dissapointed that he won't be getting the authority to deploy Inflatable Gandalfs.

http://www.montypython.art.pl/obrazki/lcmp19-15.jpg

Yes, he's disappointed. He just always has that same facial expression.

Could we maybe expand this bill to a more general mandate for nations to provide security for all foreign missions, embassies, and consulates (which I assume would include UN offices), and to assure that important diplomatic operations in foreign offices will not cease in emergency situations? Can we also soften the mandates for contingency delegations, etc.? These are measures I'm sure most nations already know to undertake.

Could we maybe expand this bill to a more general mandate for nations to provide security for all foreign missions, embassies, and consulates (which I assume would include UN offices), and to assure that important diplomatic operations in foreign offices will not cease in emergency situations?
Sure. I'll have to look at "Diplomatic Immunity" as there may be something like that in it already (don't have time right now).

Can we also soften the mandates for contingency delegations, etc.? These are measures I'm sure most nations already know to undertake.
You mean soften as in make them "Strongly Urges" or "Nations are advised to" type clauses? Possibly. I imagine most nations would already have a plan similar to this for their national governments, not sure if they would have extended it to their UN delegations though.

Sure. I'll have to look at "Diplomatic Immunity" as there may be something like that in it already (don't have time right now).Just one line, from what I see:

RECOMMENDS that nations cooperate in providing diplomatic missions with appropriate security.

Just one line, from what I see:

The honorable representative of Omigodtheykilledkenny is correct. But we believe this one line is sufficient. We believe the security of diplomatic missions is a matter which should be left to negotiation between the sending and receiving nations.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Could we maybe expand this bill to a more general mandate for nations to provide security for all foreign missions, embassies, and consulates (which I assume would include UN offices), and to assure that important diplomatic operations in foreign offices will not cease in emergency situations? Can we also soften the mandates for contingency delegations, etc.? These are measures I'm sure most nations already know to undertake.

OOC: Doing this would seem to fit the proposal into the 'International Security' category, no?

He's hiding under that desk. Circle around to the side and I'll flush him out.

Pah, I wasn't hiding. You saw me thrown out a window do you think I fear you? (this clone seems to have had the courage knobbed turned up)

-Disco U clone #42

Pah, I wasn't hiding. You saw me thrown out a window do you think I fear you? (this clone seems to have had the courage knobbed turned up)

-Disco U clone #42

Oh, for the love of the Great Cluich, he's been cloned?!?! At least 42 times?!?! :eek:

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

Oh, for the love of the Great Cluich, he's been cloned?!?! At least 42 times?!?! :eek:

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

You know, zat explains a lot, obviously they've been making a clone of a clone of a clone... vhich vorks a lot like making a photocopy of a photocopy, the more times you copy it, ze lower ze quality you get.

Dr. Conrad Odine
Science Advisor to the Grand Poobah of The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites

Oh, for the love of the Great Cluich, he's been cloned?!?! At least 42 times?!?! :eek:


We find that 42 times is a bit excessive. Generally speaking after the 5th clone most cloning technlogies tend to promote genetic drift. It is possible to clean up the cloning template, but this process is generally expensive.

However, our spies have indicated that Disco U has an Ultraviolet clearance, so he can get away with almost anything. He is probably also a mutant commie, but frankly I wouldn't want Disco U 43 angry at me. :p

Great Cluich! There's a Disco U #43?!? :eek:

He's a regular Duncan Idaho.

In fact... I think I shall now refer to Disco as Duncan.

He's a regular Duncan Idaho.

In fact... I think I shall now refer to Disco as Duncan.


the entire idea of UN-gholas scares me.

I would assume that floor debate is the process by which old memories are reawakened in each ambassador.

We find that 42 times is a bit excessive. Generally speaking after the 5th clone most cloning technlogies tend to promote genetic drift. It is possible to clean up the cloning template, but this process is generally expensive.

However, our spies have indicated that Disco U has an Ultraviolet clearance, so he can get away with almost anything. He is probably also a mutant commie, but frankly I wouldn't want Disco U 43 angry at me. :p

IC: Sounds like "Paranoia" to me :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game))

What do you think our country is run by several rogue, competing AI, that basically turned our population into code monkeys, who have no respect for copyright? That the only free will comes from a rogue faction of mutant commie traitor troubleshooters?

The computers have assured me they only keep one Disco U active at a time. As long as people stop throwing me out of buildings and stop shooting me, I should be fine :)

Anyway our computers are recomending we oppose this legislation. If only because there is a real life commie supporting it. Iron Commie or whatever his name is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Felix)


You've seen him brandish weapons in support of this resolution. Can you support any resolution where someone has threatened violence to the opposition?


DISC-0-RVR-SAL (Disco U 44)
-"Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!"
-The Computer's credo is, "Trust The Computer. The Computer is Your Friend."

You know I like that, I think I'll edit my sig

If only because there is a real life commie supporting it. Iron Commie or whatever his name is.

You've seen him brandish weapons in support of this resolution. Can you support any resolution where someone has threatened violence to the opposition?
So, you reveal yourself as a class traitor and enemy to working people everywhere. Perhaps a few years of honest labor in my calculator factory would erase these attitudes.

So, you reveal yourself as a class traitor and enemy to working people everywhere. Perhaps a few years of honest labor in my calculator factory would erase these attitudes.

What class do you take me for?

Admit it, you crafted this legislation so that after you whiped out an opposing delegation you would know who the next target should be for your secret service hit squads.

What class do you take me for?

Admit it, you crafted this legislation so that after you whiped out an opposing delegation you would know who the next target should be for your secret service hit squads.

Wha, I done thought I killed yeh once. Well, if at first yeh don't succeed. *cocks shotgun*

http://bak42.notworksafe.com/images/hohohaha.jpg
Larry McMurphy
Union Boss of Redneck Mechanics

Wha, I done thought I killed yeh once. Well, if at first yeh don't succeed. *cocks shotgun*

http://bak42.notworksafe.com/images/hohohaha.jpg
Larry McMurphy
Union Boss of Redneck Mechanics

Mad sheep rail guns links here?

Mad sheep rail guns links here?
Here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9273407&postcount=867) Why do you want to see that?

Here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9273407&postcount=867) Why do you want to see that?

We just have an interest in Rail Gun tech.

Tell you what, in the spirit of goodwill, we declare we will comply in advance with this resolution. We state that until further notice, the representative of the Free Land of Discoraversalism, will be, just as it has always been in recent memory, a clone of our current rep. Since there are many such clones out there the order of succession is as follows: Our UN representative will be the eldest such clone that has been officially recognized by the people of Discorarsalism, (typically such will is made manifest by an official government statement of recognition).

Our Theocracy opposes this Proposal. As has been pointed out, making the identities of Alternate UN delegation members known in advance can only serve to facilitate attempts on their life by the same agencies targeting the original ones. Anyway, if a nation wants to designate such alternate delegation or not should be their own decision. If a country deems the threat on the lives of its delegation members insignificant, why should the UN intervene?

Our Theocracy opposes this Proposal. As has been pointed out, making the identities of Alternate UN delegation members known in advance can only serve to facilitate attempts on their life by the same agencies targeting the original ones.

Why do you think I like the idea of my assistant, Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel, being named in the proposal, rather than myself? ;)

http://www.montypython.art.pl/obrazki/lcmp19-15.jpg

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

We state that until further notice, the representative of the Free Land of Discoraversalism, will be, just as it has always been in recent memory, a clone of our current rep.
And I have constructed a little toolshed for him to suffer in.

As has been pointed out, making the identities of Alternate UN delegation members known in advance can only serve to facilitate attempts on their life by the same agencies targeting the original ones.
Show me where it says the identity of the designated replacements must be made public.

And I have constructed a little toolshed for him to suffer in.

Oh don't worry. They are all dependent on substances we have designed. Well, truth be told, they are all dependent on a cocktail that has to be changed regularly. It would be a bad thing for a clone to get too independent.

Iron Felix, why do you support this proposal?

Iron Felix, why do you support this proposal?
*Bob waves his hand frantically* Ooo, ooo, I know. I know. He wrote it.
Proposed by: Iron Felix

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

*Bob waves his hand frantically* Ooo, ooo, I know. I know. He wrote it.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Well why did he support this proposal before he wrote it? Why did he write it? Based on his words I think he has plans for the lists produced by this resolution.

Well why did he support this proposal before he wrote it? Why did he write it? Based on his words I think he has plans for the lists produced by this resolution.
This was written by the Yeldan Foreign Ministry and proposed by Yeldan UN Mission long before either you or I were taking part in this assembly. I assure you that they had no sinister intent in regards to the lists.

In the Name of His Excellency, Emperor R. Scorpius

The Grand Imperium of Risban sees this as a good attempt to secure the existence of the United Nations in the event of a major attack on NSUN headquarters or a global catastrophe that severely decimates member delegations. As such, we officially approve this proposal.

~Lord Kenneth Fowl~
Imperial Ambassador to the United Nations, Risban
Delegate of Greater Dienstad

-Viscount Matthew Dolohov-
Deputy Minister to the United Nations, Risban

Though the Alpha Elect and the Commonwealth government could supply a secondary representative to replace me almost literally in a heartbeat, we support this proposal. It is always good to have a contingency plan.

*Jack Patch, delegate from Arlette wanders in, squints through his good eye* Not gonna support this one, needless oversight. An' who replaces me should someone manage to take me down is none of your business.

An' who replaces me should someone manage to take me down is none of your business.
Correct. Who replaces you actually is none of our business. But the proposal doesn't specify who would replace you, just that there should be a replacement ready to serve should some misfortune befall you.

This was written by the Yeldan Foreign Ministry and proposed by Yeldan UN Mission long before either you or I were taking part in this assembly. I assure you that they had no sinister intent in regards to the lists.

I wasn't asking if Yeldan had sinister intent, I asked why Iron Felix supports this resolution. Does it involve getting the right people and putting the right bullets in the right heads?

I wasn't asking if Yeldan had sinister intent, I asked why Iron Felix supports this resolution. Does it involve getting the right people and putting the right bullets in the right heads?
"Right bullets in the right heads," huh. Well I've got the right bullet, and yours looks like the right head. Now, hold still. *aims shotgun*

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Larry McMurphy
Union Boss of Redneck Mechanics

I wasn't asking if Yeldan had sinister intent, I asked why Iron Felix supports this resolution. Does it involve getting the right people and putting the right bullets in the right heads?
*snarls* Because I work for them and they ordered me to support it. And it's Yelda, not Yeldan. Do some research.

*snarls* Because I work for them and they ordered me to support it. And it's Yelda, not Yeldan. Do some research.

But you aren't denying sinister intent for yourself, just them?