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Has anyone noticed ...

Lois-Must-Die
18-08-2006, 05:46
There are currently two repeals of Resolution #81 in the queue?

And I oppose both. The first is just plain nonsense. The second, by claiming #99 protects marriage (though the word appears nowhere in the resolution), is dishonest. Whichever one comes to vote first (Shackleton's, provided it isn't deleted under the "Bloody Stupid" rule) can expect a NO vote.

Repeal "Definition of Marriage"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #81
Proposed by: Sir Ernest Shackleton

Description: UN Resolution #81: Definition of Marriage (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution goes too far. It mandates what a constitutes a "marriage" with no respect for a nation's religious beliefs, or societal structure.

The last line is also disturbing: "FURTHER RECOGNIZES all nation's right to expand this definition beyond species borders as the individual governments see fit."

This is an endorsement of beastiality, and it should have no business being in the UN. Therefore, we shall hereby strike "Definition of Marriage," knowing that the individual nations know best what is a marriage and what isn't.

Approvals: 123 (Fluffy persons, Warring Minorities, Adamzonia, Flibbleites, Upenzi, Espaniam, Compulsoria, Lastvamp666, Jediwookiee, NewTexas, Polish Marxists, The Meorhuini Cat-folk, Treblatas, Honea Paths Army, Viitasaari, Blipo, Hormigo, Tehhaxors, Crazy Cuban Exiles, Hairopolis, Colcokia, Mommy D, Choeson, Jakotopia, Brunelian BG advocates, New New Earth Jr, Amphioxus, Ichlendock, Voveo Vovi Votum, Zerkovistan, The Moravian Counties, Tervonia, Desadarium, James_xenoland, Travsylvania, Palorrin, A Five Legged Dog, StarcoreZach, Kytheros, Kandarin, Sardan, Vasankaria, McCreary, Child Care Workers, Drynwhyl, Futuristic America, Bellaben, Underhive, Nerion, Cheason, Northeast Colonies, Tuathan, The Teeple of Doom, Airmen Overseers, Rootwawa, My Left Nad, Buddome, Cape Isles, Ceile Dei, Camini, New Secundus, UKDanistan, Intergalactica III, Kings21117, Ollerton and Boughton, Alestrazsengradd, Lijin, Oblivion-Oathkeeper, Kamikastan, Melawati, Matteh Island, StoneBrewing, West Siders, Lyon county, Donkistan, Caraz, Martinbia, Gunfreak, Landstreicher, The Purple Faeries, The Extremes, Armistria, Sipharium, People of Iraqistan, Pitufina, Themonkeyapocalypse, Swanness, Bumbo the happy girafe, Aveous, Lisergicanabis, Archaic Despotism, Diddly Squitt, Zegota, Shorak, Conchland, Lobster Ville, -Environmentalists-, The Isle of Duckia, Nikandreia, False Light, Arden Hills, Roboczechnyrica, HeebsWithChutspa, The New Tundran Empire, Libre Arbitre, Kevcompman, His Majesty Delta, Vacuus Licentia, Widosia, Jastreb, Gavinopia, Isojoenranta, WilliamFBuckley, Spadesburg, Mandy Sue, The No Flaming Zone, Foot Power Extreme, Helre, Gregstoniasrevenge, LaVeya, Dodgeball Nation, Maudi, Yeewuz)

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!Repeal "Definition of Marriage"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #81
Proposed by: Pro-Sovereignty Babes

Description: UN Resolution #81: Definition of Marriage (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: WHEREAS, Resolution #144 affirms this United Nations should seek to “streamline and strike out superfluous and ineffective legislation.”

WHEREAS, Resolution #99, “Discrimination Accord”, already establishes the right of marriage cannot be denied to certain groups and ensures the passage of this repeal will NOT permit member states to discriminate “on the basis of differences in recognized religion, race, sex, sexual orientation, age, language, school of thought, or intelligence”;

WHEREAS, the provisions of Resolution #25,“The Child Protection Act”, already establish the age of a child as a just reason for not recognizing marriage;

WHEREAS, the resolution neglects to include as part of a definition of marriage any condition of consent;

WHEREAS, Resolution #81, “Definition of Marriage”, is ineffective because it fails to describe what social rights and obligations being able to marry entails. Without this, Resolution #81 safeguards nothing;

ESTABLISHES “Definition of Marriage” as ineffective and unnecessary;

REPEALS United Nations Resolution #81, “Definition of Marriage.”

Approvals: 127 (Pro-Sovereignty Babes, NewTexas, Oblivion-Oathkeeper, Flibbleites, Gruenberg, Treblatas, Leg-ends, Viitasaari, Kwyliathiotarup II, St Edmundan Antarctic, Hormigo, Swanness, Colcokia, A2riya, Compulsoria, Warta Endor, Artemisia Alyssia, Brunelian BG advocates, Dogmatic Bureaucrats, UltimaWeapon, New New Earth Jr, Ichlendock, Inis Bo Finne, Celebros, Three Islands, Lower Burgundy, Wolfshiem, Zerkovistan, Enoci Xel, American Home, Utku Pasha, Scelorias, Tervonia, Pongonians, Gahim, Travsylvania, The Lord Darth Maibus, Mugnaio, Palorrin, StarcoreZach, B312KU7, Kytheros, Espaniam, Yetihia, Amphioxus, Iwerzhon, Sardan, Child Care Workers, Tolene, Adamzonia, Futuristic America, Bellaben, Warring Minorities, The Merlion, Tarmsden, Akmal, Nerion, Romandeos, Drynwhyl, Cheason, The Teeple of Doom, Airmen Overseers, Rootwawa, Lenticularis, Ceile Dei, New Secundus, Dharma Revolution, Valcoma, Zanzibar Fortress, Riknaht, Dodgeball Nation, Lijin, Voveo Vovi Votum, Chandelier, Nuevo Cimmeria, Kamikastan, Xovenia, StoneBrewing, Allied Gypsies, Boogah, Chrom Dubh, OCR, Kandarin, WarDuck, Cape Isles, Alexandersom, Spaz Land, Hip-hoppers, McCreary, Armistria, Amandelastan, Unified Elements, The Golden Sunset, Corellisi, Lukretistan, Oneechan, Conchland, Mommy D, Buddome, Gaiah, Equalitarianism, Shorak, Soviet Ritzakstahn, False Light, The Isle of Duckia, Crazy Cuban Exiles, Libre Arbitre, Roboczechnyrica, Raving Zealots, The Sun and Stars, Jediwookiee, Eve the First, Kevcompman, Upenzi, Fluffy persons, -Environmentalists-, Jakotopia, Pennssyllssippi, Jastreb, Alestrazsengradd, WilliamFBuckley, Mandy Sue, Tribus Jewells, Raethe, Aveous, Zegota, Maudi)

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!
Norderia
18-08-2006, 05:54
Apparently the same author has a "Ban Beastiality" proposal nearing quorum.

This crap is.
St Edmundan Antarctic
18-08-2006, 12:00
The government of "Sir Ernest Shackleton" is evidently unaware that numerous species of non-human sapients, quite a few of them humanoid in form, are represented amongst the inhabitants of the UN's member-nations...
Hirota
18-08-2006, 13:09
I'd noticed both of them, and like LMD, I oppose both.
WHEREAS, Resolution #144 affirms this United Nations should seek to “streamline and strike out superfluous and ineffective legislation.” Except #81 isn't ineffective, or superfluous.

WHEREAS, Resolution #99, “Discrimination Accord”, already establishes the right of marriage cannot be denied to certain groups and ensures the passage of this repeal will NOT permit member states to discriminate “on the basis of differences in recognized religion, race, sex, sexual orientation, age, language, school of thought, or intelligence”; Absolutely false. #99 talks about:
"1. The right to protection under law, especially protection from harassment and violence,

2. The right to participate in government,

3. The right to fair judicial proceedings and law enforcement application especially as guaranteed by international law,

4. Any social dividends paid out to or provided for persons or groups deemed by member national or international government to be in social need (unemployment benefits, health care, etc.), including, but not limited to, those social dividends secured by international law,

5. Any other rights granted citizens of a member government by requirement of international law;"

Nothing to do with marriage. Thus #82 does do something already that #99 does not. I think I recall this being mentioned when #99 was being done. Regardless of this, any idiot with an ability to read can see that marriage is nowhere in #99. So saying #82 is redundant because #99 deals with marriage is false.

WHEREAS, the provisions of Resolution #25,“The Child Protection Act”, already establish the age of a child as a just reason for not recognizing marriage;So kids can't get married. Doesn't make a difference.

WHEREAS, the resolution neglects to include as part of a definition of marriage any condition of consent;Sadly, consent is not always a part of marriage. That doesn't undermine the definition, it undermines the institution.

WHEREAS, Resolution #81, “Definition of Marriage”, is ineffective because it fails to describe what social rights and obligations being able to marry entails. Without this, Resolution #81 safeguards nothing; So? That's the least of all points, and not enough to justify repeal. Let your nation decide that.

ESTABLISHES “Definition of Marriage” as ineffective and unnecessary; No, this has failed to establish this.