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Category - International Security

Resolution Name - implementation Of The F.V. Chip

Description: The F.V. Chip will be implented in hopes of assisting police forces and goverment organizations in the safe keeping and protectoins of it's citizens. The F.V. Chip will be installed into each member of every U.N. nation, giving thier global location. This not only allows the government the ability to know where each citizen is, but it also allow for, in the case of an emergency, a satellite to see the citizen and see what that person is doing.

Reason: The F.V. Chip will give members of the government the location and current action of any member of its nation. This will help to prmote security, and it will help to end terrorism. It is incredible difficult to organize terrorism when you are being constantly watched. This will also help to lower crime, violence, drug use, and illegal immigration.

Effect: Strong

What does F.V. stand for?

Why would this be "Strong"?

Doesn't this violate, at least in broad principle, Res #10, "Stop privacy intrusion"?

(Oh, and run this through a spellchecker, please.)

Aside from general spell and type errors in it you need to rethink this one. As any device placed in people can be used against them. A simple addition to a small missle will assign it to take out anyone you program it to take out. Thus you put in this chip and a missle finds them and they are gone.

I can see this with those considered criminals and given probation but for normal honest citizens to carry one.. Don't see it taking place.

Also a side note is that this device will have some sort of power supply in it and thus this also can be used as a planted device to kill the person. As any device can be exposed to the right signal or effect and bang boom it goes off and kills what it planted in. As the power needed to get the signal to where it has to get to makes it subject to become a health issue to those who might carry one.

OH. Does FV stand for Fast Victum or First Victum..?

Alright, thx for the imput, its my first attempt

F.V. was a latin term, as most of my stuff is, inclding my nation name, my currency and animal, it also happens to be my initials :D

I originall was going to make it specialized to criminals on parole and ex-cons, but the problem is that you dont know who is a terrorist?? This is a way of preventing them from becoming criminals in the first place, rather than after they have done the crime. Is there a way of making this work without disrupting Res #10??? Also, sorry for the spelling mstakes, i dont know where the button is on the forum.

You know what? You try to put microchips into a population that's only just calmed down from extensive rioting. Tell us how it goes before trying to foist it on us.

Anegri Favon
The Remnants of Enn

First, I would fight this tooth and nail.

Second, The Counter-Terrorism Act does plenty for fighting terrorism. If any more anti-terrorism proposals are put out, I'll growl.

The Stop Privacy Intrustion might, as Fris said, contradict this.

Have a look at the Recent Resolutions here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357572&page=12) to see what the standard format is.

And next time, put the name of your proposal idea in the title of the thread, it'll make it easier to identify.

Well it seems as if this is a bad idea for a proposal, since none has agreed to it? what happened to the tyranical phycopathic dictators i expected to be in here??? I think, that with the response ive had, i should try and think of a new proposal, and scrap this one.

A good call. The rest of the advice stands, as well. We'd be happy to help you in the drafting process.

It seems like a good idea for us...but not for every nation. We'll call national sovereignty on this one.

While we have no problem with doing something like this for convicted felons, we fail to see a need to require our entire populace to be implanted with these chips, nor do we see a need for the UN to be involved with this.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

So should i scratch the idea, or edit it to make it work for convicted felons or america's most wanted?

Scrap it.

I think many nations already have some way of tracking known crooks or folks out on probation or parole. Thus the UN don't need to become involved in it as those nations that don't have chips or some way of tracking their crooks can't afford the program. As this would mean funding for satalites and all sorts of things to just follow crooks around.. Many nations that might have satalites up are at a point that they have limited operational equiment room on board those. So adding something to track crooks would mean possible weather monitoring equipment has to wait to go up..


Also considering the recent efforts to do something to clean space junk up it might not be a good idea to start putting up more satalites to track anything. As we may need to first remove some of the old ones that might come down on us; or just remove them to make it safer for more updated satalites..

Also considering that more nations are not in UN and thus would not have this we would do little to stop terrorists and all a crook would have to do is find a nation that would take them in.. and remove their chip.. All they do is give up information and support that nation against a member nation.


OH and with clones a reality in this world all one would have to do is make a clone find a source to switch it to that clone and then they can move on.. untraced or tracked.. Thus the clone is followed and they are free to continue their evil ways..

Aside from other issues, this proposal assumes police forces and goverment organizations exist in all nations. This is not the case in Hirota.

And then there are the 'Past-Tech' nations...

And then there are the 'Past-Tech' nations...

Like those Cobdenian freaks. :p

Speaking of which, where in hell's he been? I don't remember seeing him about for quite a while.

Like those Cobdenian freaks. :p

Speaking of which, where in hell's he been? I don't remember seeing him about for quite a while.

I don't know...
*checks*

"Last active 19 days ago"

Ooooh, so many reasons to object, so little time. Privacy and budget come to mind first.

You might not be the greatest leaders, but ur quite possibly the greatest buzzkillers...

Yeah ive scrapped the diea, ill think more carefull in the future, thx for the imput

and what do you mean past-tech nations?

Past tech nations are nations that role play that their nation is in the past, and does not have the same technology as we do now.

You might not be the greatest leaders, but ur quite possibly the greatest buzzkillers...

Yeah ive scrapped the diea, ill think more carefull in the future, thx for the imput

and what do you mean past-tech nations?Oh, god, here too???

*runs away from the netspeak and grammatical errors*

You might not be the greatest leaders

True, but only because most of us aren't leaders, but ambassadors.

Past tech nations are nations that role play that their nation is in the past, and does not have the same technology as we do now.

And maybe even that any "modern" or "futuristic" technology that people try to take there stops working as designed (or, as in the case of 'Cobdenia', gets transformed into more appropriate forms) as soon as it crosses their borders...

And maybe even that any "modern" or "futuristic" technology that people try to take there stops working as designed (or, as in the case of 'Cobdenia', gets transformed into more appropriate forms) as soon as it crosses their borders...

Heh, the tiny chip in the back of their neck gets turned into a big magnesium flare. Owie?