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http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=hearing
The United Nations,

Strongly reiterating the sentiment of its Resolution #170, "Hearing Impaired Aid Act", that 'Everyone, including the disabled needs a chance for a good life in society',

However disagreeing that a resolution such as "Hearing Impaired Aid Act" is an effective means by which to secure the rights of the hearing impaired to greater opportunities,

Further noting its extreme distaste for the assertion that the hearing impaired are "more vocal" and somehow therefore more deserving of legal entitlement,

Disgusted that such views should be included in a resolution of increasing equality for all, regardless of the nature of their impairment,

Recalling its Resolution #160, "Rights of the Disabled", and especially its operative clauses 2, 4 and 5,

Observing that "Rights of the Disabled" has already placed upon UN members substantial obligations to facilitate equality of access to public services for the disabled, including those with disabilities related to hearing and communications,

Specifically noting that access to public buildings, adaptation of public education courses, and provision of health care and assistive technology, are already mandated by "Rights of the Disabled",

Hence acknowledging that the provisions of "Hearing Impaired Aid Act", whilst commendable, are wholly redundant by virtue of the passage of the previous, superior resolution, the steadfast commitment to which is now reiterated,

Considering one advantage of "Rights of the Disabled" to be that it covers a wider scope, and does not resort to excessive micromanagement of domestic issues, as "Hearing Impaired Aid Act" regrettably does,

Believing it in the interests of the UN and its members to strike out redundant and superfluous legislation,

Remaining supportive of all attempts to promote the rights of the hearing impaired, and the disabled in general, and thus considering the possibility of resolutions focussing on other areas, such as sign language, research in medical technologies, or political enfranchisement:

1. Repeals "Hearing Impaired Aid Act";

2. Reminds all UN members of their obligations to provide for the hearing impaired under UN Resolution #160, "Rights of the Disabled".
For reference:
- The original resolution (http://www.nationstates.net/pin=73371707/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=169)
- Rights of the Disabled (http://www.nationstates.net/pin=73371707/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=159)

The Commonwealth supports the repeal wholeheartedly.

Ahh insta-repeals, gotta love 'em. :rolleyes:

Approved.

Our regional delegate has added an approval. Hardly a surprise, since the members of the region -- including two with RL hearing impairments -- voted unanimously against the resolution in the regional polling.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

I find it hilarious that the thread for the resolution is still sticky, and there's a repeal.

I find it hilarious that the thread for the resolution is still sticky, and there's a repeal.

Either hilarious or a really sad commentary on the voting, depending on how you look at it. ;)

It's not that uncommon for immediate repeals to be submitted as soon as a resolution passes. What is unusual is that this is a well-written repeal supported by a TG campaign. Usually the insta-repeals are badly written and go nowhere. In one case, there were five of them in the proposal list before one was submitted that was good enough to make the queue.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

Wouldn't it be hilarious if this was the next resolution to pass? Then the original resolution would be followed immediately by its repeal in the list. :D

Actually, His Grace's government would be filled with consternation to see an act abjectly stricken so soon after it has come to life. Are the nations of the world, let alone the August body of the Untied Nations, to behave as fickle children who change their mind when the mood strikes? I'm sure many are doing this in response to the "adjustment" telegram that resulted from its passage and so affected their governments and economies to conform to its strictures. Yes it may cost more and , yes, it did impose an external peice of legislation upon our sovereign soils, but Newton's third law applies to the national weal inasmuch as toward physics - that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You have played the game, you have danced the reel and now its time to fee the piper.

We feel dirty somehow, but have endorsed the repeal proposal.

*snip*Lord, what a stupid argument. I'd care to know why the repeal option even exists if we're all just supposed to sit there and take it whenever the NSUN errs? There are no rules regarding a timline for repeals -- if you can garner the necessary support, it's a go, whether the repeal passed five months ago or five minutes ago. Them's the rules. If you don't like them, dance the reel, pay the piper, or whatever other cliches you care to act out.

I would remind this Assembly of the very wise decisions it has made in the past: particularly, the striking out of Promotion of Solar Panels and Right to Divorce, both inside a fortnight of their adoption. The former would have mandated the removal of all fossil-fuel energies inside a decade, and the latter contained a loophole so broad it actually would have required nations to allow convicted child molesters to see their children.

In this case, we are considering striking out an article deemed wholly redundant by a previously passed resolution (namely, Rights of the Disabled), and which micromanages domestic regulations to the point of budgetary crisis and economic ruin. When the General Assembly passes an act that would prove so deleterious to its individual members, it is not merely the option, but the duty, of the Assembly to correct the error.

In that vein, we pray this effort is successful.

Sammy Faisano
Ambassador to the United Nations

Wouldn't it be hilarious if this was the next resolution to pass? Then the original resolution would be followed immediately by its repeal in the list. :D

It's happened before:

Resolution #135: Right to Divorce

Resolution #136: Repeal "Right to Divorce"

It's happened before:

Resolution #135: Right to Divorce

Resolution #136: Repeal "Right to Divorce"
And it would have happened with Promotion of Solar Panels if there hadn't already been another resolution in the queue.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Lord, what a stupid argument.
*snip*
Sammy Faisano
Ambassador to the United Nations

Obviously you did in no way understand my argument which had nothing to do with wether or not this body had the right to strike this act. Rather my point was how stupid ( to use your own plebian phrasing) it makes the UN seem to pass a law and repeal it in the same breath. Where was Omigodtheykilledkenny when it came to the point of arguing whether or not this act should be passed into law? No one seemed to bother with redundancies when the majority of the UN voted for The Hearing Impaired Aid Act so do you accuse the majority of them of stupidity in a like manner?

Obviously you did in no way understand my argument which had nothing to do with wether or not this body had the right to strike this act.And you seem not to have grasped my argument that it is not merely this body's right, but its duty, to strike out wholly unnecessary and harmful legislation. I couldn't care less what was on the Assembly's mind when it passed this abomination; the point remains, it shouldn't have, and now we have the opportunity (and with the necessary delegate signatures, the mandate) to reverse ourselves.

Where was Omigodtheykilledkenny when it came to the point of arguing whether or not this act should be passed into law?
You fail at reading.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11529674&postcount=13

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Ah.....didn't know I was supposed to see a glib statement such as this, "Don't take no genius to figure this one out ...AGAINST." as a well reasoned arguement. ;)

Fuck off, troll.

Bugtusle, the people behind this Repeal attempt were the ones who voted against the Resolution in the first place. So far, there has been no mind changing.

Norderia has approved this proposal.

Ah.....didn't know I was supposed to see a glib statement such as this, "Don't take no genius to figure this one out ...AGAINST." as a well reasoned arguement. ;)I think if you had read the full thread you would have seen many reason why this one should not have passed. However it did and not there is a chance to correct the error made of it passing. We didn't like the proposal and support the repeal.

This is not because we hate hearing impaired people; we just feel that they don't deserve any more special treatment than any other person, disabled or not disables. Thus any proposal that would support a single disablility should be opposed and one should be made to support fair proper treatment of individuals,,,,,, that's INDIVIDUALS period, don't tag them with some disablilty and place them outside normal society.. If they want to be part of society they learn to contribute to that society what they can. Then society will recieve them as equals not person with disablities.

Welfare programs to help people only drain funds from those who try hard to earn what they want and need. Many people with all types of disablities work hard for what they have and like all the rest don't want to pay loafers so they can have what they should be working to earn..


Again we will be voting for the repeal when it comes for vote before the full membership and only hope that deligates vote for this and give us that chance. To remove this from the books...

Fuck off, troll.
Don't ya just looove diplomacy!

Actually, His Grace's government would be filled with consternation to see an act abjectly stricken so soon after it has come to life. Are the nations of the world, let alone the August body of the Untied Nations, to behave as fickle children who change their mind when the mood strikes? I'm sure many are doing this in response to the "adjustment" telegram that resulted from its passage and so affected their governments and economies to conform to its strictures. Yes it may cost more and , yes, it did impose an external peice of legislation upon our sovereign soils, but Newton's third law applies to the national weal inasmuch as toward physics - that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You have played the game, you have danced the reel and now its time to fee the piper.

We're always faintly amused when a new member waltzes into this Assembly and, with the benefit of a week or so's experience, proceeds to lecture the members on how foolish they are. You may be sure this repeal resulted from the "adjustment" telegram. We are sure you're dead wrong. If you'd be bothered to take the time to look at the history of the resolution in question, you'd quickly see that opposition to the resolution was voiced long before any such telegram was sent. And yes, we have played the game. And we continue to play the game. The repeal process is an integral part of the game.

Relatively few voters visit this forum and learn about problems concerning a resolution. They vote on the basis of what they see in the text of the resolution, with its preambulatory clauses pointing out its merits. If it's foolish to give the members of the NSUN a chance to see the other side of the coin concerning a resolution and correct an unwise vote, so be it. We'll wear the label gladly.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Bugtusle, the people behind this Repeal attempt were the ones who voted against the Resolution in the first place.

Except, perhaps Compadria's For Resolution, For Repeal approach. :rolleyes:

Speaking as a relatively experienced repealer, it does not matter at all when a resolution is repealed--whether immediately afterwards with Right to Divorce (#135-#136), or 3 years later with Scientific Freedom (#2-#153). The UN makes mistakes in its voting--most of the UN members vote with very little information about the proposal (many vote only based on the title), so it becomes the job of the repeal to rectify these mistakes. Why would you criticize anyone for trying to rectify a situation very quickly rather than waiting for months until a repeal attempt? Yes it seems foolish to get rid of it immediately. Yes it seems like a waste of space. But as long as the UN passes poor legislation, there will still be plenty of repeals, insta-repeals, etc etc.

The original proposal was wasteful and useless in the bigger scheme of things. Supplying and respecting the rights of hearing-impaired individuals was already protected under a previous proposal. It was also an infringement on sovereign rights of individual nations and those who reject this proposal are just handing over the power of control of other nations who DO support the repeal to the United Nations, who cannot, as a large organization, monitor and fund the original proposal. There are bigger and more important issues for the United Nations to turn its attention to.

-The Cashiek UN Delegation Team

Esteemed felow UN members,

Representing the people of Helmsmark, I am definitely in favour of this repeal.

As several members have pointed out, the resolution contains numerous problems:
The Resolution #170 assumes that lack of hearing must be addressed specifically as outlined in the Resolution. It ignores any alternatives.
The Resolution interferes with the sovereignty of UN members by dictating matters of internal policy in a very specific manner, without consideration to any particular nation's special needs.
The Resolution does not treat people as equals. The Helmsmark policy is to give all people an opportunity to make a living and be a productive member of society with the best of their ability, providing assistance to living where needed to help the individual contribute. Resolution #170 goes against this by providing a blanket policy for a loosely-defined group of people with a variety of needs and abilities.


Helmsmark voted against the Resolution #170 in the first place. We do hope to repeal it, as it goes against our values and policy.

Hans Larsen
Foreign Secretary
Republic of Helmsmark

Somewhere in the Republic of Krioval:

"Would you look at this?"

"Oh. You *must* be kidding. Is it now the policy of the United Nations to let just anybody in these days?"

"Technically speaking, Senator, that has always been their policy."

"Hmph. Best that the Republic 'restricted' our involvement. Still, I'm not one to let a baseless criticism of the Republic go without some form of response."

"Send it to Ambassador Telovar?"

"...for a measured and diplomatic response? Send it to the White City."

Actually, His Grace's government would be filled with consternation to see an act abjectly stricken so soon after it has come to life. Are the nations of the world, let alone the August body of the Untied Nations, to behave as fickle children who change their mind when the mood strikes? I'm sure many are doing this in response to the "adjustment" telegram that resulted from its passage and so affected their governments and economies to conform to its strictures. Yes it may cost more and , yes, it did impose an external peice of legislation upon our sovereign soils, but Newton's third law applies to the national weal inasmuch as toward physics - that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You have played the game, you have danced the reel and now its time to fee the piper.

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Director of Diplomacy and Foreign Affairs
Guild of Paladins
City of Valak
Republic of Krioval

Has his Grace's government considered resignation due to total lack of reading comprehension? Granted, the White City and the Republic of Krioval may not be the most steadfast boosters for the United Nations and its occasional bouts of whimsy, but if there is anything chaotic to be condemned, it is the resolution that has just passed.

As it turns out, neither the Guild nor the Republic have been compelled to pay out an additional Kriovalian yen in social services; earlier national and regional laws had already granted said services. The primary point of contention is that the resolution just passed was worthless because it does nothing. For groups opposed to a resolution to be blasted for attempting a repeal is simply ludicrous.

A resolution is not engendered any additional protection than a pile of dog manure - just because it's fresh doesn't mean it can't, or shouldn't be disposed of quickly.

Director Shinji Machida

Has his Grace's government considered resignation due to total lack of reading comprehension?
*snip*

What? And leave all the fun and allow only an "old boys club" point of view in this body? Never!

Are the nations of the world, let alone the August body of the Untied LOL ROFL THAT WAS REALLY FUNNY HAHAHAHA Nations, to behave as fickle children who change their mind when the mood strikes?
I'm not being fickle - I voted against this piece of crap.

And the UN has just passed a redundant, sloppy, micromanaging, ineffectual, unrealistic piece of dross. Nothing I could possibly do would make the UN appear any more childish.

~Rono Pyandran
Chief of Staff

Rather my point was how stupid ( to use your own plebian phrasing) it makes the UN seem to pass a law and repeal it in the same breath.

Yes it does make the UN stupid. That's because the UN is stupid. All this talk about good resolutions, discussions and debates in the forums, and other topics are all useless feel good window dressing because the bulk of the deligates and representatives who vote on issues are people who look at the title of the resolution and hit the vote button giving it less consideration than they would the issue of the day. The fact that a super-majority of the deligates do not even care to think when they vote tends to make the entire UN stupid, if not outright insane.

Welcome to the NS UN. That's why I spend my time between the starbucks, the debate floor and the stranger's bar. You can't take these idiots seriously, it will drive you mad. And who wants to look like Alfred E. Newman?

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Nothing like coming back from a week of your UN office being renovated and have something this horrible pass...

Ceorana supports the repeal, and we've lobbied our delegate to approve.

Enrique Lopez
Ambassador to the United Nations

I support this repeal, as I tend to do with well-written repeals of wasteful resolutions.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce

I'm not sure it's going to reach quorum this time. The TG campaign is something of a mess (despite kind offers of help) and the slow approval rate for Individual Working Freedoms for the last couple of days meant I wasted time TGing for that instead.

Nonetheless, if it doesn't, I'll have a good starting list for resubmission.

The Community of His Fordians support this proposal totally, as much as we opposed the initial resolution in the first place. If only we can convince some of the deleguates to change their mind and support the repeal, we might have a chance. Hopefully.

I wrote something on this resolution (not the repeal) over at Gatesville :P

1.) For the population currently attending Public/ Private Schools or colleges.
A.) A skilled interpreter must be provided for students that suffer from a profound hearing loss that amplification cannot help in through the use of auditory amplification devices (eg, microphones in conjunction with hearing aids).

Not only does this apply to every school, big, small, underfunded or charitabley run, but they have to provide a "skilled interpreter". The costs of implementing such a scheme are astronomical and would cost the member nations of the United Nations a signiciant amount to implement, namely a large increase in their education budgets.

B.) Auditory amplification devices must be provided to students suffering from a hearing loss that would benefit from the use of auditory amplification devices. Also, if needed, an interpreter may be used in conjunction for the more severe loss in this category. Provided by whom? The Government? Or out of thin air? Why should a Anarcho Capitalist government use other people's money to pay for someone else's hearing aids.

Furthermore, if the deaf person is rich, a millionaire, why should the Government or anyone else pay for them anyway! Also, duplication. The first clause mandates that an interpreter must be in every school and then this clause says an interpreter may be used.

A.) All libraries, museums, theaters, malls, or any other large place of public gather must support use of special amplification technology for hearing aids.
I see. Libraries, where people do not talk and that often provide hearing impaired people audio books anyway must do so. Furthermore, what about bus libraries, and small village libraries? How are they meant to do that?

Cash strapped museums must do so, theatres must do so, malls must do so, a mall for peats sake! Furthermore it does not define what special amplification technology is, and it also says any other large place of public gathering. So Trafalgar Square, Football Stadiums, Ships, Planes, Airports....

3.) Health Care:
A.) For those not able to afford hearing aids, ear or hearing assisted surgeries, and medical appointments, the government must provide these people with some or all of the money required to receive these services.
B.) Every hospital must have an audiologist on staff for availability of these patients.


The Government must provide these hearing aids etc. Must! The anarcho capitalist government of Wegason (if it was still in the UN :neener: ) must provide these operations for "free", paid for by taxpayers without their say. The really damaging part is that hospitals, no matter their size, must have an audiologist on staff. The village hospital with a few doctors etc, must have an audiologist. Everywhere must have one.
The cost would be immense and unjust.

Furthermore, it is not needed. It is not like being deaf calls for a quick response or that you need to be rushed to a hospital quickly. Thus if you need the specialist treatment, you can go to a hospital that offers the specialist treatment instead of forcing all hospitals to offer it.

That's my rant over.

It is our government's position that we will do absolutely nothing for the next four years and eleven months with regard to this resolution. If the resolution hasn't been repealed [OOC: and this game and this nation still exist], then we will attempt to come into compliance.

The Hearing Impaired Aid Act requires that all nations provide the following services/ accommodations to its hearing impair population within 5 years of this Acts passing.

OOC:

Alright, this is not going to make quorum this run. Sorry, I screwed up the TG campaign. In any case, the sudden frenzy of proposals reaching quorum (stupidly, in retrospect, including 2 of my own) means any element of a "speedy repeal" have been lost.

I'll resubmit this shortly, perhaps after the weekend, but I think I might ask for any further offers of help: I've just done 2 and a half TG campaigns on my own and I'm getting slightly sick of it.

If you give me a list of people to contact I'll help.

(See? Randomea isn't always anti-Gruenberg ;) )

If you give me a list of people to contact I'll help.
Ditto.

Ok, that's excellent. How would early this week - Monday-Wednesday - be for you to help?

Actually, I won't, as this sparkling effort (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=hearing) will prevent a TG linking to it for a few days.

Oh well.

It seems to have faltered, whatever it was.

I happen to be hearing impaired myself, and I do not feel any need to any entitlement.

Like any independent, free thinking person, I adapt, and survive, and therefore for become a stronger person. Rather than depending on other people to coddle and protect and take care of me..

Resubmitted, link in first post.

Ok, that's excellent. How would early this week - Monday-Wednesday - be for you to help?
I've got a little time: I could do around 50 tonight.

This has been resubmitted (http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=hearing).

I support this repeal, as I tend to do with well-written repeals of wasteful resolutions.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce


Ditto.

We have asked our regional delegate to add his approval of this repeal of an unnecessary and flawed resolution. The resolution was unanimously opposed by the members of our region who voted on the question, including two representatives with significant hearing impairments.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

Looks like it'll be pretty close:

Approvals: 100 (Gruenberg, Nicoshore, Compulsoria, Witchcliff, Leg-ends, Bezad, Kesgrave, South Adair, Netmynder, Jey, Flibbleites, Rubina, Iron Felix, Naughty Slave Girls, Wolololia, Human Insturmentality, St Edmundan Antarctic, Futuristic America, Ala cuisene, Republican Hope, States of Stephenson, Freemen Lands, Fishyguy, Pickwick and Yuna, Vekkeul, Thelostsouls, Ohrder, Aakron, Yerfais, WZ Forums, Pro-Sovereignty Babes, Kleinekatzen, Eunotopia, Lackland, Nevadar, Allech-Atreus, Pierconium, Party Mode, Mother Russian, Chubbica, Lamkinwah, Poitter, The Shaimung Dynasty, Britiica, New Magdala, NewTexas, Wannahockahocka, Hogesar, Palinoma, Xerconia, Brunelian BG advocates, B312KU7, Great Bights Mum, Mike Kane, Nudutopia, Arenaea and Alesium, Geash, New Crazytopia, Kytheros, Van Lar, Phthisis, Rhursbourg, Big Gamers, Sejosk, Hapandapenland, Olverica, Mannana, The Golden Sunset, Camera Altera, Allied Gypsies, Twitcheldom, The Wolf Guardians, Korriban II, Rezslekovia, Iznogoud, Apesmake, Gingerapolis, Gun fighters, Lord of Hosts, XarousLand, Riddim, Wise Balding Peoples, Al Tira, Cetyria, Bigpappa, Am Haarets, Gheik, Muggof, Fluffy persons, XMike, Tonuria, Chaotic Illumination, Nore elenion eressea, Stormsland, Mongero, Nullarni, Aaronioviskyichia, Funkdunk, Pessimism land, UltimaWeapon)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 23 more approvals)

Approved.

Only 10 away. It'll be close, so delegates, please keep approving. If it makes, and even if not, many thanks to Omigodtheykilledkenny for sending TGs.

I really gotta say, I'm gonna be plenty pissed if this thing falls short by just one or two approvals. It's got five to go right now.

I'm saving this list here for safe-keeping; I'll update it before I go to bed tonight; if it does expire, an immediate resubmission shouldn't be too hard to make quorum ... er, at least I hope it won't.

Approvals: 120 (Gruenberg, Nicoshore, Compulsoria, Witchcliff, Leg-ends, Bezad, Kesgrave, South Adair, Netmynder, Jey, Flibbleites, Rubina, Iron Felix, Naughty Slave Girls, Wolololia, Human Insturmentality, St Edmundan Antarctic, Futuristic America, Ala cuisene, Republican Hope, States of Stephenson, Freemen Lands, Fishyguy, Pickwick and Yuna, Vekkeul, Thelostsouls, Ohrder, Aakron, Yerfais, WZ Forums, Pro-Sovereignty Babes, Kleinekatzen, Eunotopia, Lackland, Nevadar, Allech-Atreus, Pierconium, Party Mode, Mother Russian, Chubbica, Lamkinwah, Poitter, The Shaimung Dynasty, Britiica, New Magdala, NewTexas, Wannahockahocka, Hogesar, Palinoma, Xerconia, Brunelian BG advocates, B312KU7, Great Bights Mum, Mike Kane, Nudutopia, Arenaea and Alesium, Geash, New Crazytopia, Kytheros, Van Lar, Phthisis, Rhursbourg, Big Gamers, Sejosk, Hapandapenland, Olverica, Mannana, The Golden Sunset, Camera Altera, Allied Gypsies, Twitcheldom, The Wolf Guardians, Korriban II, Rezslekovia, Iznogoud, Apesmake, Gingerapolis, Gun fighters, Lord of Hosts, XarousLand, Riddim, Wise Balding Peoples, Al Tira, Cetyria, Bigpappa, Am Haarets, Gheik, Muggof, Fluffy persons, XMike, Tonuria, Chaotic Illumination, Stormsland, Mongero, Nullarni, Aaronioviskyichia, Funkdunk, Pessimism land, UltimaWeapon, Safalra, Oblivion-Oathkeeper, Akmal, Lamahkae, Iamthey, Colbert Report, Amphrii, Budingerschik, Ashkevronia, Kyott, Wyvern Knights, Ikonja, Norderia, Flightopia, The Talisman, East Trafalgar, Draco United, East Hylia, Plavacistan, Stichomythia, PanzerOrta)

It needs 2 approvals. Come on!

"I would give two more if I had two more to give."

Status: Lacking Support (requires 3 more approvals)Uh-Oh, we're going the wrong way. Looks like this thing might pull a "Nuclear Armaments."*

*For those of you who don't know, I'm referring to how my "Nuclear Armaents" resolution hit quorum during the update it was scheduled to be deleted on.

Bah! It lost.

Damn it. You think if it's resubmitted right away, and we hit everyone who approved last time, plus everyone who's voted on the necrophilia thing, we can reach quorum?

Damn it. You think if it's resubmitted right away, and we hit everyone who approved last time, plus everyone who's voted on the necrophilia thing, we can reach quorum?

If it isn't resubmitted very quickly then you're likely to lose my approval, because unfortunately I'm about to lose an election and so my region will have a different delegate fairly soon...

Resubmitted. (http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=hearing)

I've got some time tonight, are there any sections of telegramming I could do?

I've got some time tonight, are there any sections of telegramming I could do?
No, it's ok - I'll try on my own. Thanks for the offer, though.

Approved.

This has now reached quorum.

About fucking time.

Excellent!

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Beautiful!

Dahlia Black
UN Representative
Queendom of Karmicaria

woot.

Yay!

Kingsley Thomas
Ambassador to the United Nations

"Full support from us. Get rid of this garbage resolution!"

I was going through Sheik Nadnerb's notes -- man, that dude has some surpisingly pretty handwriting -- and he fully supported this, so I guess I do, too.

Love, luck and lollipops,
Sheik Larebil bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

As usual, we apologize for our tardiness, but please know that you have our support as well.