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I have submitted the following proposal to the U.N. It is entitled "UN Education Commission". The design of this proposal is to set up a commitee in charge of aiding countries in need so that their education systems may be up to par with the rest of the world. In an age where things are becoming incredibly more global and more and more nations are needing to connect with each other, having adequete education systems is important in helping these countries meed that need.

I welcome all constructive criticism for my proposal. I would prefer if it were telegrammed to me, but it's fine whether it's telegrammed or posted here. I also encourage all U.N. delegates to give this proposal their vote of approval.

Thank you.



U.N. Education Commission
Education and Creativity: A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.
REALIZING that the economies of nations are becoming more global,

NOTING that contact between varying peoples is becoming ever increasingly easier

OBSERVING that education, on a global scale, is becoming more stratified in a world where a person must be more knowledgeable of others and their cultures

FURTHER NOTING that some nations lag significantly behind others in their means of educating their population and may be unable to rectify such difficulties on their own

HEREBY forms the United Nations Education Administration to do the following:

I. Monitor education systems across the globe.

II. Allocate funds to aid in the development of more sophisticated educational systems in developing countries.

III. Foster the sharing of and aid in the distribution of new educational techniques.

IV. Aid in the instruction and certification of teachers in developing countries.

V. Aid in the set up and maintenance of schools set up in points II and IV until said country is able to manage those schools without aid.

VI. Promote the pursuit of higher education

VII. Develop the standards that all curriculums must meet as determined by the proficiency of the education system of the country in question so as to diminish the stratification of education between nations

Area of Effect: Education

Re clause 'II': Allocate whose funds?

I was specifically thinking of the Education Commission's funds. They would be in charge of aiding other nations with their education systems, so I figure that the commission could also allocate its own funds. I probably should have been more specific with that.

Okay, the natural question to follow that is to ask where the funds for the Commission come from. This is not clear in the proposal.

When you answer that, be aware some people might not like the answer.

Okay, the natural question to follow that is to ask where the funds for the Commission come from. This is not clear in the proposal.

When you answer that, be aware some people might not like the answer.

My assumption was from the same place that any other resolution that creates a committee draws from, the UN budget. My government contributes funds to the UN any time the UN Secretariat send us a bill (which happens at irregular frequencies -- it is almost as if the UN budget is tied to the adoption of specific categories of UN resolutions).

Howie T. Katzman

My government contributes funds to the UN any time the UN Secretariat send us a bill (which happens at irregular frequencies -- it is almost as if the UN budget is tied to the adoption of specific categories of UN resolutions).

Howie T. Katzman

Really? The current arrangement as far as our government's contribution to the UN's funds are concerned are a negotiated value for our annual dues with payment in twelve more-or-less-monthly installments...

Really? The current arrangement as far as our government's contribution to the UN's funds are concerned are a negotiated value for our annual dues with payment in twelve more-or-less-monthly installments...

Hmmm, it sounds as if the UN should standardize how it deals with our nations, particularly in how it seeks fees. I will say this, though there is little forewarning in when the UN will come asking for more Spice Melange, it tends to be in need most after certain types of resolutions.

VII. Develop the standards that all curriculums must meet as determined by the proficiency of the education system of the country in question so as to diminish the stratification of education between nations

Screw your standards. We prefer to educate our children based on our standards.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

U.N. Education Commission
Education and Creativity: A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.We don't like the addition of 'and the arts' added onto this. Education to us promotes our young to a level they can read, write, and speak a native language.. Thus achieving this allows them later in life to advance into other areas of their choice.. Arts being such an area. If citizens can't communicate with others then they have a sad place in society.. here they may not get citizenship if they fail to gain the required basic skills.. finger painting, dancing, singing, play a violin or as we prefer fiddle, or drawing are not what we consider basic needs. They may become wants later in life but first one must get down the basics before they can get what they want. That being citizenship and thus having a right to live their lives as they may select. Until this time arts are not part of their developement..

Before anyone says anything here we start them at school at age five and by ten they have the basics out of the way and then for next two years males enter military and females enter medical.. at twelve they start working/training in the fields they will be in rest of their lives.. So we have an education system in place.

We are happy to see this one don't do much to effect it but works to bring other nations up. The only thing we don't like it the adding of arts in this... Education is one things arts are another...

Really? The current arrangement as far as our government's contribution to the UN's funds are concerned are a negotiated value for our annual dues with payment in twelve more-or-less-monthly installments...

IC: Here is the sad truth of the matter. Voting on resolutions... mean nothing. If you contribute he most money to the UN budget... you have the most influence. The gnomes can easily be bought.

OOC: I actually have no idea how UN lobbying works.

if this ever gets to vote we will be voting against.

Education is a matter for governments not unelected NSUN committies and i also have to ask where the money is coming from for this pipe dream.

Ms Midori Kasigi
Deputy Ambassador from the Empire of Kirisubo

if this ever gets to vote we will be voting against.

Education is a matter for governments not unelected NSUN committies and i also have to ask where the money is coming from for this pipe dream.

Ms Midori Kasigi
Deputy Ambassador from the Empire of Kirisubo

Well, our nation, whenever possible, donates funds to specific international organizations related to education, and technology. We have a standardized form if your nation wishes to request technological or educational aid :)

We'll do that a thousand times before will fund many other ridiculous UN organizations.

We don't like the addition of 'and the arts' added onto this.
Then talk to the admins, as that's one of those automatically added parts.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

We don't like the addition of 'and the arts' added onto this

As far as the reference to art goes, the game just automatically inserted that. The broad category refers to education and creativity. This proposal, on the other hand, is designed just to relate to education. The proposal actually has no provisions regarding the arts. It's far more neccessary that people can speak their native tongue and read their native language. The whole goal of this proposal is to aid the nations in which this is an issue.

The other primary goal is to foster the developement and implementation of education techniques. Some things work better than others, and culture plays a big role. Thus, one set of "standards" won't neccessarily work for everyone. That's why this was written to be flexible. So, you can "...Screw [my] standards," and "...educate [your] children based on [your] standards,". The purpose of the proposal is to help your country meet those standards, if not elevate them.

Okay, the natural question to follow that is to ask where the funds for the Commission come from. This is not clear in the proposal.


As far as funds go, and I realize this will not satisfy everyone, I was assuming that it could be infered that said funding would come from the U.N. budget or individual contributors (whether they are nations or individual patrons of education) primarily. I also assumed that it would be figured that this proposal could function much like UNICEF and have the capacity to fund raise.

if this ever gets to vote we will be voting against.
Feel free to vote however you please. I realize that you can't please everyone all of the time. I just urge you to consider the benefits of having a commitee designed to aid your nation (should you feel that your nations needs it) with increased funding and/or the proliferation of newer and progressive education techniques that may quite possibly work better than those techniques already implemented in your nation.

IC: Here is the sad truth of the matter. Voting on resolutions... mean nothing. If you contribute he most money to the UN budget... you have the most influence. The gnomes can easily be bought.

OOC: I actually have no idea how UN lobbying works.

I'm going to invoke a right of reply to the statement from the ambassador from Discoraversalism. Though the ambassadors statement is a general statement, and I'm convinced it was not meant to reflect poorly upon the people of Mikitivity, it is rather common knowledge that the Confederated City States are a generous member of the United Nations when it comes to offering finacial or humanitarian aid (though it is fair to not describe Mikitivians as being particularly friendly or loose with money).

Despite the fact that Mikitivity contributes more Spice Melange (money) to the UN than many nations, we honestly have no more influence than ... well Gruenberg or Jey. This isn't to suggest that these governments also spread their wealth around the halls of the UN, but rather to point out that nations that invest time and money into their UN missions, will have certain opportunities present themselves and thus these nations will have influence within the halls of the UN.

Mikitivity has never gifted or assisted any member of the UN Secretariat in any sort of unofficial capacity. Any "beer and cheese baskets" that my government has sent has been only in the interest of establishing a larger international market for exported Mikitivity beer and cheese. Mikitivians consider this to be another goal of the United Nations ... to be an instrument of cultural exchanges, and I certainly will atest to the commonly shared opinion that Thuvian Fondue (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Thuvian_Fondue) and Spice Tremens beer (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Sudwerk) are two things that simply must be sampled at some point in ones life.

-Howie T. Katzman

*snip*

OOC: Really need to lay off the Frank Herbert books, Mik. ;)

I'm going to invoke a right of reply to the statement from the ambassador from Discoraversalism. Though the ambassadors statement is a general statement, and I'm convinced it was not meant to reflect poorly upon the people of Mikitivity, it is rather common knowledge that the Confederated City States are a generous member of the United Nations when it comes to offering finacial or humanitarian aid (though it is fair to not describe Mikitivians as being particularly friendly or loose with money).

Despite the fact that Mikitivity contributes more Spice Melange (money) to the UN than many nations, we honestly have no more influence than ... well Gruenberg or Jey. This isn't to suggest that these governments also spread their wealth around the halls of the UN, but rather to point out that nations that invest time and money into their UN missions, will have certain opportunities present themselves and thus these nations will have influence within the halls of the UN.

Mikitivity has never gifted or assisted any member of the UN Secretariat in any sort of unofficial capacity. Any "beer and cheese baskets" that my government has sent has been only in the interest of establishing a larger international market for exported Mikitivity beer and cheese. Mikitivians consider this to be another goal of the United Nations ... to be an instrument of cultural exchanges, and I certainly will atest to the commonly shared opinion that Thuvian Fondue (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Thuvian_Fondue) and Spice Tremens beer (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Sudwerk) are two things that simply must be sampled at some point in ones life.

-Howie T. Katzman

IC: The sad truth of the matter is that despite the influence peddling going on... the UN is still underfunded. If it was a bit more corrupt, a bit more creative in it's financing, it would be much better able to fulfill its mandate.

This sad state of affairs is precarious. If more nations don't fund the UN through legitimate channels I think it's inevitable that the UN gnomes will start walking the slippery slope towards total corruption.

Has anyone else seen signs of spice addiction in the gnomes recently?

OOC: Isn't the original purpose of this thread kind of dead in the water because of the funding issue? I had hoped an IC rant about funding would be close enough to the original topic but still keep the thread alive.