NationStates Jolt Archive

"To UN,

If every nation gave FREE education, then where will the money come. Money for books, a building, staff's salaries? The nations with no economy or with other priorities. Why should we force free education without financial aid? If some nations want free education then let them. But why force them all on all nations?"


How do I make this a real proposal?

"To UN,

If every nation gave FREE education, then where will the money come. Money for books, a building, staff's salaries? The nations with no economy or with other priorities. Why should we force free education without financial aid? If some nations want free education then let them. But why force them all on all nations?"


How do I make this a real proposal?

We'd suggest that the best way to start is to go to the list of UN resolutions that's in the stickies at the top of this forum. Read a few of the repeals that passed to get an idea of how other people have done it. Then start writing. When you have something you think is worthwhile, post a copy of your draft here for comment.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

"To UN,

If every nation gave FREE education, then where will the money come. Money for books, a building, staff's salaries? The nations with no economy or with other priorities. Why should we force free education without financial aid? If some nations want free education then let them. But why force them all on all nations?"


How do I make this a real proposal?Why should children have to suffer because the government couldn't give a damn?

Why should children have to suffer because the government couldn't give a damn?Reading... hard.

Allow me to distill his argument:
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I suggest that it's not worth the effort. If "Repeal Sexual Freedom" is going to go down in flames, because most of the deligates simply read the title and press the vote button, Repeal Free Education would be defeated by a 4:1 margin.

Free education was brought up a few times while I was first starting up(two mounths ago or something). Free education is a good idea. But it is very hard for the UN to legislate on it effectivly without getting to specfic and micro-managing. The problem with the resolution actualy is not that it costs too much but that it is too broad in what a naiton could mean as education.

I belive this is a good resolution to have so that the priniciple is there. While not doing any harm. But I would like to see a replacement made. If any good replacement is made I would be glad to support a repeal otherwise I am against it.

Free education was brought up a few times while I was first starting up(two mounths ago or something). Free education is a good idea. But it is very hard for the UN to legislate on it effectivly without getting to specfic and micro-managing. The problem with the resolution actualy is not that it costs too much but that it is too broad in what a naiton could mean as education.

I belive this is a good resolution to have so that the priniciple is there. While not doing any harm. But I would like to see a replacement made. If any good replacement is made I would be glad to support a repeal otherwise I am against it.The idea of cost is low when you stick to a basic eduction and don't start adding all the extras in.. Music, Sex, Poetry, Dancing, Sports, all this type stuff that drains the system of funds because they are needed in to many areas.

Basic education in the first years should teach children to read and write in a native language so they can later expand on their own by reading things. As they grow older those things they don't like and want to try and change they can write their ideas down and get others interested in making those changes. Failure teach them early on to read and write means they go no place in life..

This from what have seen on the education proposals is the problem.... They want to add to much in the early years and draw from the basics to build for the later years of ones life. You can't read then you are limited to learn from others who don't always tell you the truth.. Unable to write and chances are you can't express yourself enough to tell folks what you think... Thus you for the most part end up thinking like somebody else tells you to...

Also the term 'free education' don't mean it don't cost to have it.. What I see it meaning is everyone has a chance to learn the basics of life... The main one being how to read and write in a native language... Then making information available to them to learn from in that native language...

Also parents need to play a part in teaching children things not always a school established by some social group or civil government.

Izza Notasmaurta
Minister of Education Zeldon

Any nation not providing extensive free education is putting itself at a comparative disadvantage. It's the most effective way to: raise standard of living, increase economic growth, help immigrants adapt, reduce crime, and in general lead to a succesful nation. Let less developed countries have all the entry level jobs.

It's a vicious cycle, the more a country spends on education... the more it realizes it should spend more.

The government of our nation basically exists to help educate the populace, and to represent our people on the world stage. Our citizens tend to reject any effort on our government's part to do anything else.

It would seem obvious that yall should do likewise, but we haven't found our citizens think much like the rest of the world :)

Any nation not providing extensive free education is putting itself at a comparative disadvantage. It's the most effective way to: raise standard of living, increase economic growth, help immigrants adapt, reduce crime, and in general lead to a succesful nation. Let less developed countries have all the entry level jobs.

OOC: There are a number of RL countries where even not-well-off people actually prefer sending their children to fee-paying schools rather than to whatever state-funded ones also exist locally, because academic standards in the former are kept up by the need to compete for pupils but teachers in the state ones have their jobs guaranteed through civil service rules and therefore -- in a measurable number of cases -- don't feel as motivated to do their jobs properly...

OOC: There are a number of RL countries where even not-well-off people actually prefer sending their children to fee-paying schools rather than to whatever state-funded ones also exist locally, because academic standards in the former are kept up by the need to compete for pupils but teachers in the state ones have their jobs guaranteed through civil service rules and therefore -- in a measurable number of cases -- don't feel as motivated to do their jobs properly...

We have extensive private schools in our country as well. There is no upper limit to how much education a person or country should have. Whatever point the state stops providing education the private sector will always find reasons to step in as well.

However, we have often found that people choose private schools not for their superior teaching, but rather so as to associate with certain socio-economic groups.