NationStates Jolt Archive


DRAFT: Repeal The Universal Bill of Rights

Gurguvungunit
01-08-2006, 05:43
RECOGNIZING the intent of UN Resolution #26, Universal Bill of Rights,

ACKNOWLEDGING the need for such resolutions,

SUGGESTING that replacement resolution be passed,

SUBMITS that Resolution #26 contains flaws which reflect poorly on the UN, and limit the resolution's scope and legal fortitude.

Article 2 of repealed resolution states:
"All human beings have the right to express themselves through speech and through the media without any interference."
In certain situations, the value of speech is outweighed by the negative impact on society. Examples include, but are not limited to:
Incitement to Riot,
Incitement to Violence,
Divulging of secret information relevant to the national security of member states.

Resolution #26 does not take these exceptions into account.

Article 5 states:
"All human beings must not be subjected to torture or to cruel or inhuman treatment or punishment."
The resolution does not define 'torture' 'cruel or unusual punishment' or 'inhuman treatment'. In cases such as this, where people may be brought to trial over such issues, we firmly believe that such statements must be fully and clearly articulated so as to avoid ambiguity. This resolution fails to do so.

Article 7 states:
"Any arrested person must be assumed innocent until proven guilty."
The legal system of a given member state is frequently based on centuries of legal and social tradition, which varies from nation to nation. In some of these traditions, the burden of legal proof may be placed upon the defendant. Article seven does not take this history into account, nor does it account for other seperate legal systems, such as military law, in which the public's vested interest in order may outwieigh the accused's rights.

SUGGESTS that Resolution #26 makes sweeping statements upon complex legal matters, which could result in confusion or unjust imprisonment through misunderstanding or willful misreading of said resolution.

Hereby REPEALS Resolution #26, The Universal Bill of Rights.
And here's the UBoR in it's entirety:
Description: Recalling the many egregious infringements of human rights,

Recognizing the need to protect basic human rights,

Deploring any acts by government at the sake of human rights,

Determined to put an end to the violation of human rights,


The United Nations shall endorse what will be called the Universal Bill of Rights, the articles of which are as follows:

Article 1 -- All human beings have the right to choose worship any faith, and to change their religious beliefs at any time without punishment on the part of the state.

Article 2 -- All human beings have the right to express themselves through speech and through the media without any interference.

Article 3 -- All human beings have the right to peacefully assemble.

Article 4 -- All human beings have the right to be treated equally under the law of any member nation.

Article 5 -- All human beings must not be subjected to torture or to cruel or inhuman treatment or punishment.

Article 6 -- No human beings will be subjected to arrest or exile without an explicit list of their offenses.

Article 7 -- Any arrested person must be assumed innocent until proven guilty.

Article 8 -- A human beings family members cannot be held accountable for the crimes of their relative.

Article 9 -- Any persons who violate any of these articles shall be held accountable by the law.

Article 10 -- The Universal Bill of Rights does not override the existing Bill of Rights of United Nations members. If any of these stated rights do not exist in a member nation, they are herby protected. If any nation has rights that go beyond these universal rights, the Universal Bill of Rights will not remove those rights.

Votes For: 11,169
Votes Against: 3,649

Implemented: Fri Aug 8 2003
There's way more that I'm sure could go in, looking for constructive criticisms, additions etc.
Forgottenlands
01-08-2006, 05:51
The latter two were addressed in further detail in latter resolutions. The first I couldn't give a rats ass about - especially point 3.
Cluichstan
01-08-2006, 14:27
Hell, even we aren't in favour of repealing this resolution.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadnerb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

OOC: And yes, I said "in favour of" rather than "for" just so I could use a British spelling to annoy Kenny. :p
Gruenberg
01-08-2006, 14:36
I'd support a repeal, but I'm not sure many others would. The UBR is the sort of resolution I can't honestly see the UN overturning.

Which isn't especially helpful, I know. Certainly, though, you would be expected to have a replacement prepared in this case.
Newfoundcanada
01-08-2006, 16:41
Hell, even we aren't in favour of repealing this resolution.


let's see... if you can't get Cluichstan to agree you should repeal this. I wonder what I am going to say:) .
Jey
01-08-2006, 17:23
Hell, even we aren't in favour of repealing this resolution.

Ditto. We simply cannot see the UN ever repealing this--and we wouldn't like them to. This and Rights and Duties of UN States seem pretty much immune to repeal.
Gurguvungunit
01-08-2006, 21:49
Heh, just thought I'd throw it out there, see if anyone was interested. As you say, there's little hope for a repeal.
Unified Narnia
02-08-2006, 05:09
No hope for repeal. Quit Americanizing everything. The media can be dangerous by only issuing or taking one side. Everybodies rights are carefully watched in Unified Narnia. If the majority of people screw up, so goes their rights.


Sincerely,


Supreme President Klaus Lehmann
of Unified Narnia
Cluichstan
02-08-2006, 14:06
No hope for repeal. Quit Americanizing everything. The media can be dangerous by only issuing or taking one side. Everybodies rights are carefully watched in Unified Narnia. If the majority of people screw up, so goes their rights.


Sincerely,


Supreme President Klaus Lehmann
of Unified Narnia

OOC: I find it ironic that you bitch about making everything American -- and then go and spell the term "Americanizing. :p

Oh, and...

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/wtflightning.jpg
Xanderism
02-08-2006, 14:09
I'm in support of a repel.

Scot Prince
Head Ambassador
Xanderism Department of Foreign Affairs
Cluichstan
02-08-2006, 15:07
I'm in support of a repel.

Scot Prince
Head Ambassador
Xanderism Department of Foreign Affairs

My personality repels people all the time.
St Edmundan Antarctic
02-08-2006, 15:15
There seems no hope of a repeal getting passed, but despite not being an oppressive regime, we would support one. Why? Because the resolution discriminates against nations (such as ours) that have "unwritten" constitutions (in which people's rights are mainly established by custom & 'common law' precedents) rather than formalised ones that include actual 'Bills of Rights'...
HotRodia
02-08-2006, 17:47
I would support a repeal of the UBR, as long as a good replacement was in the offing.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce
Newfoundcanada
02-08-2006, 17:53
I would support a repeal of the UBR, as long as a good replacement was in the offing.

HotRodian UN Representative
Accelerus Dioce
I guess I would too but the replacement would have to be very very very very... good
Unified Narnia
02-08-2006, 19:06
OOC: I find it ironic that you bitch about making everything American -- and then go and spell the term "Americanizing. :p

Oh, and...

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/wtflightning.jpg

One, you stupid motherfucker, which you keep this up it will start a rift that might result in military actions, I have not bitched about making anything American. I mean your stupidity is rancor. I have gone by my own policy. If it is American policy so be it but I do not show support towards Americanizing anything. So keep your damn mouth shut!!!


Sincerely,

Supreme President Klaus Lehmann
of Unified Narnia
Flibbleites
02-08-2006, 20:48
I have not bitched about making anything American.Really now, did you forget about this statement that you made earlier?
Quit Americanizing everything.Looks to me like a complaint about people Americanizing things.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

OOC: Some parts of your post which I didn't respond to could be considered borderline flaming so you might want to tone it down a bit. (not a mod)
Gruenberg
02-08-2006, 20:50
One, you stupid motherfucker, which you keep this up it will start a rift that might result in military actions, I have not bitched about making anything American. I mean your stupidity is rancor. I have gone by my own policy. If it is American policy so be it but I do not show support towards Americanizing anything. So keep your damn mouth shut!!!

Sincerely,

Supreme President Klaus Lehmann
of Unified Narnia
Uh, that little "OOC" at the start of his post means "out of character". Delivering an "in character" (IC) response to an OOC statement is not really approved of.
Cluichstan
03-08-2006, 13:07
One, you stupid motherfucker, which you keep this up it will start a rift that might result in military actions, I have not bitched about making anything American. I mean your stupidity is rancor. I have gone by my own policy. If it is American policy so be it but I do not show support towards Americanizing anything. So keep your damn mouth shut!!!


Sincerely,

Supreme President Klaus Lehmann
of Unified Narnia

Well, you're going to do well around here... :rolleyes: