NationStates Jolt Archive

I had issues with the child labour laws as it did not define the age of a child. I propose 16.

Secondly i disagree with the freedom of press bill. People should not be allowed to give out leaflets etc to condone violence or spread messages of hate. This bill allows this.

What does everyone else think?

not every culture views adulthood as starting at age 16. some see it as starting younger, others older and some don't even have human lifespans :)

so a fixed age isn't possible.

on the freedom of press hate speech is a major concern of the Empire but we feel that its a necessary evil. if you ban a political party or a group they'll just go underground and cause more trouble.

Ms Midori Kasigi-Nero
Kirisuban deputy ambassador

your child labour laws are therefore a joke. I could put my defintion of a child as 5 and have 6 year olds working in the mines. Thus there must be an age limit. The reason for the laws is that kids under 12 were working so put the law at 12. It cannot stand as it is.

As for freedom of press, you are allowing racist, homophobic and other views which can cause riting and friction between communities. In no country is an underground organisation more powerful than an overground one. Thus limits must be put in place. If i get any support i am going to think of drafting new bills to correct this.

I would like to remind the honourable member from Pixil Indians that Kirisubo has a ZERO percent crime rate.

we have always defined our Gempuku ceremony, the coming off age at 16 years of age so we are in agreement here.

other nations may well have other standards and its in the interest of national sovereignty that they set their own limits but an unpopular govenment that doesn't look after its citizens will find themselves out of power.

it is better to allow freedom of speech even if its offensive to the general population. the people themselves can then make the descision to support or oppose them.

I had issues with the child labour laws as it did not define the age of a child. I propose 16.

Secondly i disagree with the freedom of press bill. People should not be allowed to give out leaflets etc to condone violence or spread messages of hate. This bill allows this.

What does everyone else think?

Firstly, it's difficult to define the age of maturity in specific numerical terms, so a rather more inclusive defintion, focusing on age of responsibility, maturity, individually outlined national/cultural definition of age of maturity (which must be applied consistently to be valid) is more in order than a precise time (i.e. your 16 proposal).

As for Freedom of Press, I would like to have a definition of "condone violence" and "spread messages of hate", they seem somewhat vague.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

your child labour laws are therefore a joke. I could put my defintion of a child as 5 and have 6 year olds working in the mines. Thus there must be an age limit. The reason for the laws is that kids under 12 were working so put the law at 12. It cannot stand as it is.

Ahhh, but on the world stage, every little inch you move the meter by can detract from your voting pool. You are quite correct that not setting an age standard allows countries some flexibility in their interpretation. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as flexibility breeds support. Kuraurisand, for example, allows no age restrictions within it's national borders, so we could certainly not support any specific age you set, even the absurd 5 that you threw out there. However, we would be less likely to vote against a legislation that didn't impact us directly: with a more flexible wording, we would probably just abstain.

As for freedom of press, you are allowing racist, homophobic and other views which can cause riting and friction between communities. In no country is an underground organisation more powerful than an overground one. Thus limits must be put in place. If i get any support i am going to think of drafting new bills to correct this.

And you will find such new bills defeated swiftly, I assure you. Getting an entire world to compromise on things is not easy - advanced citizenship, to quote a wise author, is the ability to "acknowledge someone standing center stage, shouting at the top of his lungs, advocating that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours."

Racist, homophobic viewpoints have their place in society - they allow the society to celebrate it's greatness, brag that no voice goes unheard, and let's us all whisper, "See? Look at that nutcase. Now you know /my/ perspective is the right one." :)

Racist, homophobic viewpoints have their place in society - they allow the society to celebrate it's greatness, brag that no voice goes unheard, and let's us all whisper, "See? Look at that nutcase. Now you know /my/ perspective is the right one." :)
Hear hear! :cool: