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Fellow UN Delgates and members and interested parties,

I am considering drafting a UN proposal that seeks to acknowledges the existence of "Aliens", tha is people outside the UN. This resoultion would stand as a prelude to the creation of a sub-committe to deal with issues relating to the interaction between the UN and non-member states (ALIENS).

Why do we need this and is this even legal?

As to the first part of that question, traditionally the UN is quite vocal in condeming nations (members or otherwise) about various things from their treatment of civil rights, political rights, crimes against humanity, possession of WMD's, cruelty to dogs and monkeys etc. In the interests of verisimilitude the UN needs to have a similar power.

IS this legal? I really don't know and I don't want to be banned so i am looking for help on this. (I acknowledge this may come down to structure of the resoultion).

Some mechanics of the proposed body:

A bunch of nations led by me, selects at random a nation every week and genrally points fun at and condems one of the usually humerous issues they have allowed to prolifigate in their nation. Having found said target the sub-commitee will send a message to UN delegates (via the existing compliance registry list) giving voice to the shock and awe and general hillarity.

Each Sub-committee member will have a tenure not exceeding 2weeks (except for the Director {read me} who will have a tenure of 6 weeks.


Comments and general telling me I am stoopid and this is illegal are welcome but I prefer constructive help.


Ja Bless

You're stoopid and this is illegal.

I prefer constructive help.
Abandon this idea. It will lead to your ejection and probable deletion. How's that for constructive?

I was hoping that you guys would turn up.

What is it with the UN that sucks the fun out of any nations ideology?

I as my regions delegate have been chared with stiring up pro-right sentiment and corrupting the UN. My proposal in this instance is an attempt to divert the attention away from our general lack of idea about what we should and should not be doing in the uN (i have read the rules etc but comeon like the real UN what we can and can't do in the UN is completely hamstrung).


Anyway, as I acknowledged freely in the original post I am stoopid and I know this is proposal is illegal but can't we just dream.

Afterall, sometimes a dream has more power than a resoultion and vison is at the heart of innovation and invention.


Ja Bless

Still stoopid.

Why?

Well.....let's put it this way.

In the UN, the Charter is the limiting factor to the UN. As long as the funds keep flowing and the bureaucrats keep pumping out more paper, they can do whatever they want. If they want to have a vote on the cafeteria food, they can go right the heck ahead.

In the NSUN, the limiting factor is the game - we can pass one article every 5 days should our membership see it as being fit. Wasting our time, every second week, on voting these committees in is ridiculous. The average person checks the resolution at vote, decides whether they support it or not, and gives their vote. They don't care about the forum, they don't care about anything else. If you want to create this committee in International Incidents, you enjoy yourself. That's much more free-form and the most you have to worry about is the part where you spam the delegate with the condemnation - you might need a legality check for that. However, the UN does not have the capacity to do that. We just simply don't have the appropriate infrastructure.

Nor, I think, would we particularly care to do it.

Nor, I think, would we particularly care to do it.

Possibly why the UNO struggled. Great idea.....but players are less inclined to do the bureaucratic stuff.

Possibly why the UNO struggled. Great idea.....but players are less inclined to do the bureaucratic stuff.
OOC: And then there are nations like me whose sole purpose is to be a bureaucracy.:D

OOC: And then there are nations like me whose sole purpose is to be a bureaucracy.:D

Doesn't mean you DO the bureaucratic stuff. Just because a committee exists doesn't mean it functions and certainly doesn't mean it does anything. Considering the speed at which you process office requests.......

Doesn't mean you DO the bureaucratic stuff. Just because a committee exists doesn't mean it functions and certainly doesn't mean it does anything.OOC: You know, my comment really didn't need a reply, it was intended to be mearly a joke.
Considering the speed at which you process office requests.......IC: Give me a break, I'm only one woman.

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it was intended to be mearly a joke.

So was mine

Why? There are numerous of nations not represented in the United Nations but are in a region that is represented by a United Nations Delegate. Isn't that correct? Obviously, I guess a Nation could be a in a self-created region that isn't in the United Nations.

Why? There are numerous of nations not represented in the United Nations but are in a region that is represented by a United Nations Delegate. Isn't that correct? Obviously, I guess a Nation could be a in a self-created region that isn't in the United Nations.

I ain't forcing my neighbors surrounding (and in) the North Sea to join the UN. I encourage it, sure, but there's no reason to make them join just because of their proximity. The world outside of the UN isn't as uncivilized as some would have you believe.

I do see a need to deem a certain nationas "Aliens" just because they are not in the United Nations, for all we know they might be more civilized then myself.