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I have recently proposed a resolution to End Government Waste and I am seeking support and/or constructive criticism.

End Government Waste
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Jinglebellrocker II

Description: NOTING many UN nations have significant amounts of government waste, that is money taken from the citizenry through taxation that is more than sufficient to meet the needs of the national budget.

ARGUING that governments should not raise taxes higher than what is needed to support the national budget.

FURTHER ARGUING government waste is rightfully the property of the citizenry and should be returned to the citizenry as efficiently as possible.

PROPOSING all UN nations allow the citizenry to democratically vote on what should be done in their respecitive nations with government waste.

MANDATING taxes be reduced until all further government waste is eliminated.

This resolution would put no limit on the number of government programs a UN Nation should have or how nations should spend tax money in any way. It would merely limit taxation to the confines of supporting the national budget only.




If you agree with it, please approve it so it can become a resolution. If you don't agree with it--or you do agree with it and think it can be improved, please let me know how I could make it better.

~Jinglebellrocker

You can no more legislate away waste than you can legislate away friction.

All you're saying here is "waste is bad!" without actually proposing anything. Is there an actual waste-reduction suggestion or two buried here that I missed?

I think reducing taxes and looking at the issue.

One would think that nations are doing that.

If you want to lower taxes, Social Justice is not the category you're looking for.

There are very important and legitimate economic reasons for a government to collect more tax than is needed.

For example, its fiscal policy may be to stem inflation, which may be driven by excessive consumption. Government spending could then be reduced, or taxes increased, to discourage consumption or reduce the government's portion of aggregate demand.

Or surpluses may be wanted to build up the national reserves for contingencies.

Additionally this resolution is probably game mechanics since waste is hardcoded into the xml thing spit out for all those economic calculators.

PROPOSING all UN nations allow the citizenry to democratically vote on what should be done in their respecitive nations with government waste. You can't do this not all forms of government allow citizens the right to vote for anything so why should they have a right to vote for where their money, oops.... government money goes...


FURTHER ARGUING government waste is rightfully the property of the citizenry and should be returned to the citizenry as efficiently as possible.About the only thing in some natons that a citizen might get from the government if they have a problem is free room and board paid for by that government and loss of all rights of citizenship. If they protest to hard they might get one of them rounds in the head government paid for with taxes.

ARGUING that governments should not raise taxes higher than what is needed to support the national budget.Do you know what the cost to put shoes on five wives and kids is today in some nations? The people have to pay taxes to have a good government and who would want the families of their ruler running around barefoot and naked. They expect better of them.. since they are their leaders.

Also add in the cost to fund police and a military as they also need shoes.. and weapons to be effective in protecting citizens from the savages outside our borders.. Thus when is there ever enought funds to pay for it all!

Oh! and add all the new subjects we will be adding in schools if some of the current proposals get passed here and we need more taxes to pay for it all. Lets see 'other sex education', 'proper use of color trash bags', 'how to deal with mentaly ill kids', and these are just three of many that may come up... as required.

I do not think this is an UN issue. Government waste is just the way bureaucracy works. In order not to have government waste you may need a dictatorship which doesn't allow for very much for the locals.

b5cmdrmo
Prime Minister of Jacobic

Please do something more specific, paperwork reduction act for example, to eliminate duplication of work within agencies. Open bidding act, all government bidding must be open to more than one contractor to insure competitive pricing, etc. Bribery reduction act.

All those are essentially domestic issues with little international relevance. There's no reason the UN should get into that.

Have you ever heard of a surplus. Also of paying off debt. Saving for next year. Do you know what municipla governments do in many area's for garbage trucks they put in a certain amount of money every year toward snowplows then store the extra this way it is a consitant amount and if you have a bad year the extra from other years pays for it. Is this waste.

Government waste is not defined so maybe your talking about garbage. That governments are never allowed to throw out garbage. I think that might cost a bit but i have to congradulate you on your enviromentaly freindly point of view.

Maybe giving out free pins is waste... Or maybe you think paying civil servants like both my parents is a waste.:)

How is the distribuution of these taxs going to happen?

Have you ever heard of communisim? This would go against the general priniciple of communism so then is allowed to pass. (taxs don't go back service food etc do)

This has one broad manate and that is it. I think maybe you should think about a resolution for a few seconds before trying to write it and pass it.