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Major Concern

Niita
11-06-2006, 17:03
I know enough people playin NS would agree and could give me a 100-page discussion/break-down on the corruptness of the UN.

However, there's one main issue in particular I wished to address, that could be solved quite easily:

Has anyone noticed the large amount of "Repeal Legislation" proposals being passed within the UN?

Well I just realized today that every single issue that passes through the UN automatically has a "Repeal" option where one can request that the legislation be appealed.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's good to be able to stand up as one and fight against something you disagree with, but why can't we all just take advantage of the built-in system we already have?

If enough nations were to request a repeal, I'm sure it would be granted. Why doesn't the UN spend time coming up with more original/beneficial proposals, and try to organize a mass "everybody submit a repeal request" event on an issue instead of making up an entirely new piece of legislation for the sole purpose of repealing previously passed legislation? I mean, the reason it got passed in the first place is that enough people agreed with it.

This would certainly make the UN more purposeful and efficient. Of course, the idea is always up for discussion. We are a peace-keeping, compromising organization, right? :P

--Social Utopia of Niita
Gruenberg
11-06-2006, 17:57
Has anyone noticed the large amount of "Repeal Legislation" proposals being passed within the UN?
Depends on your definition of "large". Of the last 10 proposals to reach quorom, 4 have been repeals. Of the last 10 resolutions to pass, 3 have been repeals. In 2006, 37 proposals have reached quorum, of which 14 have been repeals. And a higher proportion of repeals fail than ordinary resolutions.

Yeah, there are some repeals; whether one calls the amount "large" or not is dependent on perspective. Large as compared with what?

Now, don't get me wrong, it's good to be able to stand up as one and fight against something you disagree with, but why can't we all just take advantage of the built-in system we already have?
I...don't understand. Repeal proposals are taking advantage of the built-in system we already have.

If enough nations were to request a repeal, I'm sure it would be granted. Why doesn't the UN spend time coming up with more original/beneficial proposals, and try to organize a mass "everybody submit a repeal request" event on an issue instead of making up an entirely new piece of legislation for the sole purpose of repealing previously passed legislation? I mean, the reason it got passed in the first place is that enough people agreed with it.
I'm not sure you understand the mechanics.

Here's how a resolution is passed. One nation submits, and if about 125 delegates approve it, it's voted on by the UN. It's the same for a repeal: one nation submits a repeal using the "Repeal this Resolution" link; if 125 delegates approve, it's voted on.

As for more original resolutions, well, my draft's in the forum. Where's yours?
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
12-06-2006, 06:41
This would certainly make the UN more purposeful and efficient. Of course, the idea is always up for discussion. We are a peace-keeping, compromising organization, right? :P

--Social Utopia of Niita

From what have seen on the repeals is those that come up often meet with some new move in the UN membership to get something new on the table. In order to do that they have to clean the table of some old trash that stands in the way. As under the rules you can't ammend current resolutions to add new ideas to them you have to repeal it and then submit a new proposal.

As those like the repeal on Euthanasia are what I feel an effort on some groups to take out a blocker resolution and put in something new on the issue that is more one sided than the so called current blocker roslution. This often is to me good as in trying to take down the blocker resolution it gives folks times to think about what is going on with the issue. Also to see just who might be trying to push a new one sided proposal on the issue.

A blocker resolution is generaly one does little but mention an issue and mandates folks do nothing on it just lets them know it's there. Thus these are often subject to repeal when a group wants to move it to push their side of the issue on the rest of the membership. Euthanasia is one such issue now on the floor as the repeal is up for vote.