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As far as we, of the Federation of Afran, are concerned. The United Nations' mandate to act extends solely to international issues. It is for that reason that we have joined this organization, as a forum for foreign policy and diplomacy.
Yet, we have noticed that a predominant number of the United Nations resolutions, declarations and ambitions concern solely on matters that are within the sovereign power of individual nations. In other words. It's infringing on how nations run their own affair.

Is this organiziation seeking to become the next government, a global one dictating to all the citizens of the world? If so, I would remind it that we did not sign up for this reason, and neither did many of its members no doubt.

The United Nations is a gathering place for nations to discuss international issues, let us keep it as such.


With all due respect,
The Afrani Delegation.

Point to the article that says the United Nations is "a gathering place for nations to discuss International issues"

Point to the article that says "the United Nations' mandate to act extends solely to International issues"

When you are done realizing that this United Nations was not designed nor told that its mandate should be solely to International Issues, you will be able to become a full member of this community. You have every right to claim what the United Nations should be and there are a great many who believe, as you do, that it shouldn't deal with non-International issues. However, you have no right to claim that this is what the United Nations was meant to be - no more than I do of claiming that the United Nations was meant to infringe on all nation's sovereignty (though I've heard one pro-NatSov moderator claim that).

And actually, I believe it already is a world government

While I agree wholeheartedly that the United Nations should be a forum for international cooperation and a source of legislation on international issues, the halls we walk through are by no means the halls of internationalists. The best thing you can do, if you believe in your mission, is to fight here on the floor, and put those who don't understand the true mission of our organization in their place.

It's worked for me, so far.

I've always tried to keep in mind 'changing the world, one resolution at a time'. There is nothing necessarily off-limits to the UN . The only real limits are those we impose upon ourselves.

NB: I'm talking about a theory of the UN here. Yes, I'm fully aware that there are rules, but they still allow for various theories and interpretations.

Right. Within the restraints imposed by the categories and rules, we're on our own as far as the approach to legislation is concerned. We can write resolutions to protect nation's rights, protect human rights, or promoting either of them. We can write highly detailed resolutions replete with definitions, complex sentence structures, and precise terminology, or we can just lay out some basic points. It's up to the members of this body to shape its course and make it the most effective body it can be.

The Saturn Corp agrees with the OP. The UN should stick to international affairs and stay out of our national affairs. Our stockholders didn't elect the UN, and we will oppose any attempt to interfere with our sovriegnty.

OOC: What is it (and this is directed at no-one in particular) with all the new Nat-Sov nations flooding in recently. I feel as if us IntFeds are being swamped.

Our stockholders didn't elect the UN, and we will oppose any attempt to interfere with our sovriegnty.
Actually, you DID elect to join the UN, and in doing so permitted the UN to extend their intrusive fingers into every aspect of your nation and your lives.

Somebody should tell your stockholders to read the fine print in contracts before signing.

Actually, you DID elect to join the UN, and in doing so permitted the UN to extend their intrusive fingers into every aspect of your nation and your lives.

Somebody should tell your stockholders to read the fine print in contracts before signing.

Somebody should tell our stockholders not to sign contracts after an office party. :p Nonetheless, our legal department is busy searching for loopholes, and in the meantime, we will oppose any resolution that is against our soverign interests.

Heck, theoretically speaking someone could draft, submit, vote on, and pass a resolution banning the use of tube socks before 9:00 P.M. on a Thursday. I mean, we'd all have to be really drunk but it could happen, and nations would have to follow that rule. It's just the mods and region reps would prevent it from getting anywhare because of how retarded such a resolution would be.

Well.....

it would get blown out for bloody stupid/joke proposal/too trivial for the UN

The Armed Republic of Utskistan agrees with Afran. The United Nations has and repeatedly attempts to usurp the sovereinty of nation states. The tide must be turned. Resolute nations must take a stand - even in the face of intimidation from the developed world which would like to pimp out underdeveloped nations for their own perverted interests.

As a developing nations - the Armed Republic of Utskistan will continue to expose this disgusting power grab by developed nations and will continue to fight against all resolutions that continue to erode the power of nation states to regulate their countries with respect to the general welfare, commerce and police power.

The Armed Republic of Utskistan agrees with Afran. The United Nations has and repeatedly attempts to usurp the sovereinty of nation states. The tide must be turned. Resolute nations must take a stand - even in the face of intimidation from the developed world which would like to pimp out underdeveloped nations for their own perverted interests.

As a developing nations - the Armed Republic of Utskistan will continue to expose this disgusting power grab by developed nations and will continue to fight against all resolutions that continue to erode the power of nation states to regulate their countries with respect to the general welfare, commerce and police power.
Than leave. Nobody is stopping you. Resign.

The Armed Republic of Utskistan agrees with Afran. The United Nations has and repeatedly attempts to usurp the sovereinty of nation states. The tide must be turned. Resolute nations must take a stand - even in the face of intimidation from the developed world which would like to pimp out underdeveloped nations for their own perverted interests.

Or join NatSov and get something done about it as opposed to alot of bitching, moaning, and board spamming.