NationStates Jolt Archive

Category: Environmental
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Presenter: Akhalla
Resolution: World Historical Protection Act

URGES the protection of U.N member state historical sites from destruction by Industries, by fire, by storms, by degrdation of the structure of the land or building.

ALSO URGES U.N member states to renovate or rebuild historical sites that have been forgotten or destroyed by natural disasters. Either in the same spot or near the actual spot of the historical building or plot of land.

RECOGNIZES a historical site as any or all of the structures and places of historic, archaeological or architectural interest or importance and as our environment that has a historical dimension that contributes to its quality and character.

(1) RECOMMENDS that U.N member states appoint a national heritage comittee to assess private buildings and protect them from destruction or unnecessary changes if judged to be of cultural importance.'

This can include the following quidelines:

A) A building or patch of land that is older than 50 to 100 years old, and even older, that has direct local, state or national value to the U.N member state.

B) A building or patch of land where a historical battle or historical event occurred.

C) A building or a patch of land that can capture the historical, artistic, literary, linguistic and scenic associations of lanscapes.

D) A historical site that commemorates a disaster or genocide of some nature.

(2) MANDATING the preservation and upkeep of sites of international importance, such as war graves, battlefields, etc. This can be completed by asking for assistance from relevant charities, organizations and nations concerned that can commerorate veterans of conflict and from internal and external tourists during peacetime.

(3)The creation of a voluntary World Historical Organization which gatters the top historians, as well as other academics to discuss the upkeep of World Historical Sites.

(4) URGES the protection of World Historical Sites is a National and a U.N objective as it allows for many internal and external people enjoy member states national treasures. As these Historical sites contribute fundamentally to sense of place and cultural identity and are regarded as inextricably part of tangible aspects of the historic environment of these U.N member states.

Does it meet with approval??

It already has seven delegates approval.

Does it meet with approval??

No.

I've told you my problems with this in the first thread you started, all of which remain unaddressed. I won't repeat them other than to say I hope this doesn't reach quorum. Fortunately, I don't think it will.

A) A building or patch of land that is older than 50 to 100 years old, and even older, that has direct local, state or national value to the U.N member state.We would ask the member from Akhalla just how old his nation is and does the lands within it's border fall in this group being older than 50 as a nation?

B) A building or patch of land where a historical battle or historical event occurred.How did the esteme nation of Akhalla come to be a nation..? Also do you have any schools, churches, or other buildings over 50 years old..?

C) A building or a patch of land that can capture the historical, artistic, literary, linguistic and scenic associations of lanscapes.If this means a place folks can smell the roses and watch the birds and bees do their thing; then I guess the nation of Akhalla has many such places within it's borders.

D) A historical site that commemorates a disaster or genocide of some nature.When your next nuke plant starts to glow in the dark and get real hot then we shall declare that site under this! And once a year on the date of the event for the next 1000 or so years look into the far far distant sky and say it was there Alkahalla stood.

(2) MANDATING the preservation and upkeep of sites of international importance, such as war graves, battlefields, etc. This can be completed by asking for assistance from relevant charities, organizations and nations concerned that can commerorate veterans of conflict and from internal and external tourists during peacetime.Based on the fact Akahalla occupies prime lands that we consider and I feel many others do to be suited to be placed on this WH list; I request that your citizens vacate your national lands as soon as this proposal become a resolution as we will request that all your national lands be declared WH land under this and that in order to protect them we need to get those living in them off them.

(3)The creation of a voluntary World Historical Organization which gatters the top historians, as well as other academics to discuss the upkeep of World Historical Sites.Since Akahalla no longer has land for it's people to live, work, and play on guess they will be the first to serve on the WHO.

(4) URGES the protection of World Historical Sites is a National and a U.N objective as it allows for many internal and external people enjoy member states national treasures. As these Historical sites contribute fundamentally to sense of place and cultural identity and are regarded as inextricably part of tangible aspects of the historic environment of these U.N member states.We shall fully enjoy hunting in the forest of Akahalla and if the waters are clean even doing a little fishing there. We invite all members to pass this so we can move forward with opening the first area under this in Akahalla.

Oh! If any nation has room for the citizens of Akahalla please contact their national government now so they can start moving off this land and out of all building on it.

The latter clauses were lifted straight from my idea recommendations without any rewording which surprised me a little but I guess I have to defend them.
I don't think 'Zeldon' is able to declare Alkhalla a place of international importance somehow. :rolleyes: unless Zeldon somehow managed to bury it's dead all over Alkhalla in official wargraves after a battle all over Alkhalla, and the WHO would confirm this to be so.
Remembering this is not a 'I'm sticking people on a list' one like the other. It doesn't become important just because you say it is. I could say Zeldon's 65000th house is important to Randomea as that is a special number to us. Everyone would think 'nutters' and rightly deem it 'unimportant'.

The latter clauses were lifted straight from my idea recommendations without any rewording which surprised me a little but I guess I have to defend them.
I don't think 'Zeldon' is able to declare Alkhalla a place of international importance somehow. :rolleyes: unless Zeldon somehow managed to bury it's dead all over Alkhalla in official wargraves after a battle all over Alkhalla, and the WHO would confirm this to be so.
Remembering this is not a 'I'm sticking people on a list' one like the other. It doesn't become important just because you say it is. I could say Zeldon's 65000th house is important to Randomea as that is a special number to us. Everyone would think 'nutters' and rightly deem it 'unimportant'.


We may not have ancestors resting in Alkhalla but we believe that the Great Buffollo migrated from a valley in Alkhalla. As surveys of certain sites in Alkahalla and testing of what has been found date remains found under the Alkahallain capital to be those of ancient Zeldon Buffollo. To us they could be as honored as your house 65000. As for getting folks to come on board with one nation on what is and what is not... all it takes is feed the gnomes your first born daughter and they put on list.

As for the 65000th house in Zeldon. We will send you the ashes as soon as we put out the fire the cow started. Also do you have any mustard as this darn cow is bland tasting?

Heck we don't even need dead buffollo bones on the site if there are ones living there according to way read this. If we can link say your buffollo to be the ancestors of ours then we have grounds to request their homeland to be put on the WH list. Thus it opens the door for anything is possible here and can be added to the list for simple reasons..

Suppose I come up with proof that uranium was spread on planet due to the crash of my ancestors ship that arrived here some years back. Thus that uranium is to me sacred as it represents those who died before us trying to settle this world for our people. Crazy as it may sound all I need is the right group to back me and all uranium and where it's found is on this WH list.

Think what it would do for the nuke ban folks or those who use them like 4th July fireworks.


(3)The creation of a voluntary World Historical Organization which gatters the top historians, as well as other academics to discuss the upkeep of World Historical Sites.This is the biggest reason one can see it being abused as how do they decide who is are the top historians. I would believe that Zeldon and several other nations; who would agree with us that Akhalla is a prime area to go on this WH list; are well qualified to be in this WHO.
Since it's voluntary and there is nobody paying anyone then money talks as folks have to eat or need cars for their mistresses.

Well you don't like it, and if it gets to vote, you should vote against it if you want.

(3)The creation of a voluntary World Historical Organization which gatters the top historians, as well as other academics to discuss the upkeep of World Historical Sites.

Our nation's top historians object to the idea that they might get "gattered"... ;)

Okay, here are some suggestions to help this proposal along (I like the concept).

1- Change the format, although not a rule re-formatting this resolution to match other popular resolutions would go along way towards helping it reach a vote.

2- Tighten up the definition of what is a historical sight, and forget ages. There is a monument in Dancing Bananaland dedicated to a slaughter that happened only 27 years ago, but it is for damn sure a historical site. Base it on culturale significance and importance to future generations in understand the time in which the historical site was made historical.

3- Instead of relying on nations to establish their own comittees, establish a UN-wide comitee on historcial sites. Mandate them to investigate protecting historical sites, managing wheather, and protecting historical sites while maintaining business and economic interest, define historical sites etc...

4- Forget about letting nations ask charities, they will or they won't and it doesn't need to be in the resolution. Simply demand that all historical sites be kept in reasonable condition, and preserved for future generations, historians, and reserchers.

5- Define what reasonable condition for a historical site is.

6- Define situations in which a government cannot be held accountable for the destruction of a historical site, such as storms etc...

7- Although not necessary, perhaps add in something about historical sites discovered outside of any nation's borders and who gets them etc...

3- Instead of relying on nations to establish their own comittees, establish a UN-wide comitee on historcial sites. Mandate them to investigate protecting historical sites, managing wheather, and protecting historical sites while maintaining business and economic interest, define historical sites etc...Okay so we investigate protecting them then what. Most nations can't manage their own health, defense, education, and religions so how do these manage weather. (drop the first h in word)

4- Forget about letting nations ask charities, they will or they won't and it doesn't need to be in the resolution. Simply demand that all historical sites be kept in reasonable condition, and preserved for future generations, historians, and reserchers.
5- Define what reasonable condition for a historical site is.As if you don't define it then we can assume if we paint a building once a year and spray it for termites one a year we have made resonable effort to protect it.

6- Define situations in which a government cannot be held accountable for the destruction of a historical site, such as storms etc...Conflicts with earlier on weather management as if you can manage it then why should you worry about storms?

7- Although not necessary, perhaps add in something about historical sites discovered outside of any nation's borders and who gets them etc...Carefull here not to get into non UN member nations as you can't effect them. Also be carefull how much allowance you do give Nation A in declaring something on this list in Nation B. You will have to deal with individual national security if Nation A wants a HS in Nation B that might be on a sensitive military defenese site.