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Could all UN Delegates please consider approving the proposal entitled, "Mandatory Vaccinations"?

Thanks.
-OCR.

Mandatory Vaccinations

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: OCR

Description: The United Nations,

DESIRING to reduce unnecessary loss of life,

NOTICING the number of lives lost due to disease,

STATING that many could be prevented from simple vaccinations,

UNDERSTANDING that not everyone can afford to have vaccinations,

THUS HEREBY PROCLAIMING that the following vaccinations become mandatory in all hospitals and provided free of charge by UN member nations' governments:

1. Small Pox
2. Measles
3. Mumps
4. Typhoid
5. Rubella
6. Tetanus
7. Polio
8. Tuberculosis (TB)
9. Diphtheria
10. Whooping cough (pertussis)
11. Hib (causes cerebrospinal meningitis)
12. Meningitis B

AND FURTHER PROCLAIMING that treatment for the following uncurable diseases become mandatory in all hospitals:

1. HIV
2. AIDS
3. Malaria
4. Cancer

BELIEVING that this will reduce national death rates, especially infant mortality rates,

FURTHERMORE BELIEVING that if these laws are enacted, public health care standards will increase globally.

Approvals: 25 (OCR, 666666666, Desert Storm Iraq, SPASTIC COLON, Ergos, Treblatas, Work damn you work, Tarmsden, Imarralia, Supville, Reke, New Hamilton, Baudrillard, Deltaro, Caraz, Republic of Freedonia, Carlswelt, Bellaben, Manussa, Gaiah, Arothiania, Erith Avlantia, New Britannian Empire, Azuni, Kirigakure Shinobi)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 102 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Wed May 24 2006

This one I'm presuming <_<.
Please quote when asking for support.

I like it.

Right...discussion time.
DESIRING to reduce unnecessary loss of life,
NOTICING the number of lives lost due to disease,
STATING that many could be prevented from simple vaccinations,
UNDERSTANDING that not everyone can afford to have vaccinations,
Fluffy, but ok.

THUS HEREBY PROCLAIMING that the following vaccinations become mandatory in all hospitals and provided free of charge by UN member nations' governments:

1. Small Pox
2. Measles
3. Mumps
4. Typhoid
5. Rubella
6. Tetanus
7. Polio
8. Tuberculosis (TB)
9. Diphtheria
10. Whooping cough (pertussis)
11. Hib (causes cerebrospinal meningitis)
12. Meningitis B
All of them? How many nations need small pox vaccines?
In addition, I'm not certain what the status is within OCR, but in Randomea we do not have a Meningitis B vaccine, nor a C.
Moreover, ones which we consider more important, such as rabies, is not upon that list.

AND FURTHER PROCLAIMING that treatment for the following uncurable diseases become mandatory in all hospitals:

1. HIV
2. AIDS
3. Malaria
4. Cancer
It's a hospital. If they have the equipment they can treat/cure/provide palliative care. If you want them free...you're fighting an uphill battle.
Cancer is not always incurable.

BELIEVING that this will reduce national death rates, especially infant mortality rates,
Only if they receive the jabs as babies. Which you haven't specified.

FURTHERMORE BELIEVING that if these laws are enacted, public health care standards will increase globally.
No, only if a) the parents get their children immunised, b) the vaccines are successful, c) there are no other possible threats - which there are.

We could not support this proposal as written. We believe that decisions about vaccinations should be made on the basis of need, not a one-size-fits-all bureaucratic mandate by the NSUN.

A second objection is that the requirement "THUS HEREBY PROCLAIMING that the following vaccinations become mandatory in all hospitals and provided free of charge by UN member nations' governments" cuts two ways. It would be mandatory for hospitals to perform the vaccinations, but also mandatory for citizens to undergo them. There is some risk associated with many, if not all, vaccinations. Some people's religious beliefs would prohibit their receiving them. We believe the decision to be vaccinated should rest with the individual unless there is epidemiological evidence that they are required to preserve the health of the general population.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

We could not support this proposal as written. We believe that decisions about vaccinations should be made on the basis of need, not a one-size-fits-all bureaucratic mandate by the NSUN.
Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs
We would agree with you fully as see this a greater threat to us than help.. As many of those deseases listed; even the vaccines for them would kill off many of our citizens if exposed to them. Also there are a few we need to find a vaccine not listed here so why do we fund and support vaccines we can't use or have no need for. Also just as some of these are a greater danger to us some we use are that to other species. Since the nature of resistance to certain things varies between say human, gnome, zombie, vampire, or whatever species might be getting a vaccine. As what could help one could well kill another species. This requires that all be given those listed without concern for the side risks.

The idea is a good one as the UN should help in the issue of insuring that proper vaccines are available across all membership. However one must not mandate selected needs of a few and leave out needs of others. Nor should it not consider the risks to each nation's citizens based on their species rather than one or two species needs.

Frenchania concurs with the objections below.



We could not support this proposal as written. We believe that decisions about vaccinations should be made on the basis of need, not a one-size-fits-all bureaucratic mandate by the NSUN.

A second objection is that the requirement "THUS HEREBY PROCLAIMING that the following vaccinations become mandatory in all hospitals and provided free of charge by UN member nations' governments" cuts two ways. It would be mandatory for hospitals to perform the vaccinations, but also mandatory for citizens to undergo them. There is some risk associated with many, if not all, vaccinations. Some people's religious beliefs would prohibit their receiving them. We believe the decision to be vaccinated should rest with the individual unless there is epidemiological evidence that they are required to preserve the health of the general population.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Every human being is endowed with the right to choose the course of their own lives. Extreme cases aside, it is improper for the government to "mandate" something in the name of the greater good. To that end, it is improper for the United Nations to "mandate" something in the name of a greater good. This resolution would infringe on not only the nation's right to administer its own health protocols, but also the individuals right to determine what he or she feels is an appropriate medicinal regimen.

Perhaps if a resolution was directed towards immunization requirements for international travelers, it might be recieved differently.

This bill is extremely fuzzy on a critical point - who is going to pay for it? Poorer nations will simply not be able to afford this mandate. As such, are richer nations going to be happy to subsidise vaccinating the poor? All of them?

Without this clarification, Sithya will vote against. We are frankly concerned that many proposals are being put forward that do the following:

1. Dictate internal policy for many nations, when the main purpose of the UN is to govern relations between nations.

2. Make financial demands on member nations without so much as a cost-benefit analysis.

Finally, Sithya does not accept that vaccinations are something that requires this legislation - the World Health Organisation is working hard to ensure the world is vaccinated. As such, if it "ain't broke, don't fix it".

but in Randomea we do not have a Meningitis B vaccine, nor a C.Don't feel bad, I've never even heard of "Meningitis B or C". I've heard of Hepatitis A, B, C, D-factor, E and G, as well as Auto-immune and Alcoholic Hepatitis; and also Bacterial, Fungal, Parasitic and Viral Meningitis, but that's about the only combinations with letters. Well, okay, there's Herpes, too, but that's not even close to sounding the same.

And shouldn't Ebola/Marburg be on that second list? Of course, I'm not sure how hospitals are supposed to "treat" uncurable diseases. A sterilized revolver?

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Every human being is endowed with the right to choose the course of their own lives. Extreme cases aside, it is improper for the government to "mandate" something in the name of the greater good. To that end, it is improper for the United Nations to "mandate" something in the name of a greater good. This resolution would infringe on not only the nation's right to administer its own health protocols, but also the individuals right to determine what he or she feels is an appropriate medicinal regimen.

Perhaps if a resolution was directed towards immunization requirements for international travelers, it might be recieved differently.

OOC: Though not around for Sophista's earlier presence here, I think I'm going to enjoy the return. :D

ooc: Actually that was meant to be 'only a C' typoes...
I have been C vaccinated, but the lethal form, B, in the rw has no vaccination.
However, it could be that one of the more futuristic nations have developed a vaccine for B.
In fact, they could have found a cure for aught I know.

Micromanagement.
One-size-fits-all policies.
There's a risk that where some of the diseases listed are very rare within particular nations a compulsory vaccination camapign there would actually kill more people than the disease was likely to.

'Against'

Fair enough. If this current proposal fails to reach quorum, then the nations of Democracy and I will submit a new proposal which takes into account all the issues that you have pointed out. Thanks for expressing your concern.

OCR']Fair enough. If this current proposal fails to reach quorum, then the nations of Democracy and I will submit a new proposal which takes into account all the issues that you have pointed out. Thanks for expressing your concern.

Good! There's potential here for a worthwhile proposal. If you do write another version, please post it here rather than submitting it. That way you can take objections and suggestions into consideration and revise it if necessary before submitting it. There's no requirement to do that; it's just smart legislating.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

The honorable delegate from Ausserland is correct in this matter. As an idea, this resolution represents a noble cause worthy of pursuit and debate. Bringing back another draft that addresses some of the concerns raised here is the first step in getting you closer to putting it up for the Big Vote.

Yes, I agree, and I apologise for blatantly overseeing this possibility earlier.

-OCR.

I agree with your proposal and I want my country vaccinated.

Dear Mr Ambassador for Cena465,
We recently read your request for vaccinations and wonder why you do not in fact vaccinate your people now rather than wait until a more suitable proposal is drafted?
If you are in need of some help I'm sure a registered medical charity would be glad to help.

Ms. Hodgelett Tirith,
Randomean UN Representative.