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Calling on all UN delegates out there to support this, frankly genius piece of legislation!

If you're from Australia, Canada, British Virgin Islands, Britain, Ireland, South African, New zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Seychelles, Kenya, Malaysia, India, or indeed anywhere and have a real sense of justice, you must support this!

Come on! You know you want to! :D

Currently on page 3 of the UN proposals.

Wow this is the bigest peace of Shit I have ever seen



Did I mention this was Shit

It's considered polite to post the text of your proposal; if you want delegates to approve it, do them the effort of showing them what to approve.

Commonwealth English Act 2006
Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Aqua-Sulis

Description: This legislation wants the official language of the United Nations to be Commonwealth English.

RECOGNISING that Commonwealth English is the most widely spoken dialect of the English language.

RESPECTING that the inventing country of the English Language speaks the truely correct dialect.

PROMOTING reform to education to teach this dialect.

NULLING any future legislation put forward to the UN which is not written in this dialect.

URGING You to vote in favoUr of this piece of legislation.
1. This is illegal (games mechanics, RL references, wrong category, etc.).
2. This is fucking stupid.
3. "Truly".

I suggest reading the rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465).

It's always good courtesy to post the proposal for people to critisize. I havent seen this proposal yet so when i get a chance to look at it...i'll critisize.

Yeah, well I think it's absolutely brilliant!!!!!!:)

1. You can't force nations to adopt a language. It's up to that nation to RP what language they want.

2. This proposal is rediculously worded.

3. The Emire does not endorse this proposal as it is the stupidest piece of crap that the Empire has ever seen.


OOC: Always the new nations that come up with the stupidest proposals....

Yeah, well I think it's absolutely brilliant!!!!!!:)

I'm not at all surprised. :rolleyes:

3. The Emire does not endorse this proposal as it is the stupidest piece of crap that the Empire has ever seen.


I wouldn't be too sure about that. It's up against some stiff competition for that honour.

I never heard of any of those countries mentioned. They sound like fictional countries somewhere. :)

And what is this "English"? I speak Ginetian, which naturally gets translated into whatever NS language is appropriate for whom I'm speaking to. :)

I'm not at all surprised:rolleyes:

I wouldn't be too sure about that. It's up against some stiff competition for that honour.

Firstly, you are pretty dumb if you didn't get the sarcasm in my post:)

Secondly, when Cluichstan says that it's up against some stiff competition, I think he was referring to my first proposal of 'Murder and Manslaughter Laws' that illegalised all forms of murder and manslaughter along with the death penalty, abortion, euthanasia, duelling, suicide, a lot of other things that involve death and to top it all off, my proposal illegalised war. Wow. Now I think that proposal was the stupidest piece of crap that Shazbotdom's empire ever saw, (if his empire saw my proposal that is).:p

Firstly, you are pretty dumb if you didn't get the sarcasm in my post:)

Secondly, when Cluichstan says that it's up against some stiff competition, I think he was referring to my first proposal of 'Murder and Manslaughter Laws' that illegalised all forms of murder and manslaughter along with the death penalty, abortion, euthanasia, duelling, suicide, a lot of other things that involve death and to top it all off, my proposal illegalised war. Wow. Now I think that proposal was the stupidest piece of crap that Shazbotdom's empire ever saw, (if his empire saw my proposal that is).:p

I am not dumb, sir, and I merely represent Cluichstan. I do have a name, you know.

And no, I was not referring to your shite proposal addressing murder and manslaughter laws. Yes, that was shite. Yes, that was dumb. That said, however, there have been proposals submitted to the austere body that were far more stupid.

Calling on all UN delegates out there to support this, frankly genius piece of legislation!

If you're from Australia, Canada, British Virgin Islands, Britain, Ireland, South African, New zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Seychelles, Kenya, Malaysia, India, or indeed anywhere and have a real sense of justice, you must support this!

Come on! You know you want to! :D

Currently on page 3 of the UN proposals.


We being not from any of these could never support any proposal that would set our national language to one of some dreamworld that exists only in some dreamstate.

However we do teach certain languages in Zeldon so that our citizens can effectively communicate with visitors to our nation who do not speak the Zeldon Tongue, also so they can fit in when they might visit another nation who has their own distinctive tongue.



Thus I say to any nation that can't learn another tongue that they are what we say in Zeldon, 'drawkcab ssa dna wols'.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. It's up against some stiff competition for that honour.Just wait until I get home and can upload the screen capture of a Proposal that made me cry...

(My god! You know this is the reason I can't be taken seriously as a new member. I can't blame people for thinking I'm a complete moron when the majority of us 'newbs' are fools like this guy.)

CHEGH-chew jaj-VAM jaj-KAK!

Oh sorry, my universal translator shorted out for a minute. We speak Federation Standard, which thanks to our translators is heard by all as whatever language the listener is most fluent in.

Oh and FYI, even in the real world Canada doesn't use the 'Commonwealth English, what is spoken is a form of English that has a combination of influences from both the British English and the American Dialect.

Oh and another by the way, I am fairly new to the on-line roleplaying scene and I just want to confirm a couple things before I use them and look like an idiot if I'm wrong. 'O.O.C.' I gather that this means Out Of Character, and that I.C. is In Character, is this correct?

EDIT: WOOT! Post 42, now I must keep my mouth shut for all eternity so that I can keep my post count as the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

Oh and another by the way, I am fairly new to the on-line roleplaying scene and I just want to confirm a couple things before I use them and look like an idiot if I'm wrong. 'O.O.C.' I gather that this means Out Of Character, and that I.C. is In Character, is this correct?
Yes.

RESPECTING that the inventing country of the English Language speaks the truely correct dialect.You mean France?

1. There is no 'Commonwealth English' dialect. You are wrong in saying that there is.

2. If you meant British English, you're still wrong. Indian English is the most spoken dialect of English in the world.

3. You'd have to go to parts of Flanders and Saxony to find the 'inventing country'.
Plus you'd have to stop by Rome, Norway, Denmark, France, Ireland, Scotland, Arabia...

Meh. Some hilaaaaarious wag tried to the same but for American English a few months ago. Why can't we all just... get along?

Though American dates... now they're really fuc-

Just wait until I get home and can upload the screen capture of a Proposal that made me cry...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Tindalos/Random/DUMB.jpg

ooc:
Hack, you just made my day.
http://www.cabel.name/images-post/2006/01/roflcopter.gif

My current mindset:
Exclusion Clauses are not cool.
Significant.
Omg! Exclusion clauses are sooo unfair to consumers. Courts should not have to do a purposive approach to interpretation of contracts! We shouldn't need the UCTA of 1978, nor the UTCCR of 1999, so just ban exclusion clauses and I won't have to learn this crap!
[/frustrated, cba to revise, half a textbook still to go, brain tired, hungry, ranting, stupid code]

Calling on all UN delegates out there to support this, frankly genius piece of legislation!
Is it, really ?
If you're from Australia, Canada, British Virgin Islands, Britain, Ireland, South African, New zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Seychelles, Kenya, Malaysia, India, or indeed anywhere and have a real sense of justice, you must support this!

First:
The resolution demands that NSUN "alter its way of working" by using a language tied to a handful of countries.
For one: altering HOW NSUN works is NOT the purpose of NSUN and its proposals. But feel free to ask a change in "game mechanics" in some more technical forum.

Then:
"Commonwealth English" is a vague notion alltogether. In NS I found ... 6 NSUN member states carrying "commonwealth" in their name. They are: The Most Serene Republic of Commonwealth , The People's Republic of New Commonwealth , The Constitutional Monarchy of Northern Commonwealth , The People's Republic of The Commonwealth of UA , The Holy Confederation of The commonwealths , The Democratic Republic of The Great Commonwealth.
Do they speak the same language ? I 've not found out -yet-, but maybe their main language is Vogon. How do we know ,

The "world at large" has more states carrying "commonwealth" in their name ... it's a list that goes on, and on, and on. I hardly imagine they speak one language.

thirds:
As for the "countries" named in this reply : are they members of the NationStates UN ? Or is someone trying to impose upon NSUN the national language of one of the (many) "rogue" or "parasite" states ?

Well, SOME member states have these names somewhere in their names: Australia, 6 NSUN member states carrying that attribute
Canada 22 NSUN member states carrying that attribute
British Virgin Islands 0 NSUN member states carrying that attribute
Britain 20 NSUN member states carrying that attribute
Ireland 11 NSUN member states carrying that attribute

I didn't "search for" the others, being South Africa(n), New zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Seychelles, Kenya, Malaysia, India

Outside "NationStates" there's another world, where nations called likewise have a "national language" that differs VERY MUCH , and that thus are not to be confused with "one single language".

Take ... Ireland. They don't speak "commonwealth english", they speak Gaelic. I suspect the NS counterparts may have any culture they like. The same goes for "India" : the NSUN one may be as multicultural as the "real life" one next to the "himalayas".
Isn't "Hong Kong" quite chinese ? And what language is spoken in NS-Honkong (if it exists)
Do the "Virgin" states speak "english" or ... multiple types of Virginese ?

So this proposal had better fail. Well, we think it will.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Tindalos/Random/DUMB.jpg

Gotta admire its simplicity. :p

I would prefer the following Resolution

WHEREAS The Great Daniel Webster fought the devil and wrote a dictionary long before there was a "Commonwealth."

WHEREAS The Greater Shakespere didn't need any dictionary whatsoever when he made words up willy nilly in order to compete with the popular entertainment of bear baiting.

WHEREAS The Greatest Chaucer couldn't spell to save his life.

BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED THAT writing resolutions in the style of Chaucer is downright silly and this resolution actually does nothing!

Now preye I to hem alle that herkne this litel tretys or rede, that if ther be any thynge in it that liketh hem, that therof they thanken oure lord Jhesu Crist, of whom procedeth al wit and al goodnesse. And if ther be any thyng that displese hem, I preye hem also that they arrette it to the defaute of myn unkonnynge, and nat to my wyl, that wolde ful fayn have seyd bettre if I hadde had konnynge. For oure book seith, al that is writen is writen for our doctrine, and that is myn entente. Wherfore I biseke yow mekely, for the mercy of God, that ye preye for me that Crist have mercy on me and foryeve me my giltes; and namely of my translacions and enditynges of worldly vanitees, the whiche I revoke in my retracciouns: as is the book of Troilus; the book also of Fame; the book of the XXV. Ladies; the book of the Duchesse; the book of Seint Valentynes day of the Parlement of Briddes; the tales of Caunterbury, thilke that sownen into synne; the book of the Leoun; and many another book. If they were in my remembrance, and many a song and many a leccherous lay; that Crist for his grete mercy foryeve me the synne. But of the translacion of Boece de Consolacione, and othere bookes of legendes of seintes, and omelies and moralitee, and devocioun. That thanke I oure lord Jhesu Crist and his blisful mooder, and alle the seintes of hevene, bisekynge hem that they from hennes forth unto my lyves ende sende me grace to biwayle my giltes, and to studie to the salvacioun of my soule, and graunte me grace of verray penitence, confessioun and satisfaccioun to doon in this present lyf, thurgh the benigne grace of hym that is kyng of kynges and preest over alle preestes, that boghte us with the precious blood of his herte; so that is may been oon of hem at the day of doom that shulle be saved. Qui cum patre et spiritu sancto vivit et regnat deus per omnia secula. Amen.

Outside "NationStates" there's another world, where nations called likewise have a "national language" that differs VERY MUCH , and that thus are not to be confused with "one single language".

Take ... Ireland. They don't speak "commonwealth english", they speak Gaelic.

OOC: Actually, only a tiny fraction of their population is at all fluent in Gaelic, and most of them do indeed speak [a dialect of] English instead for everyday purposes...

But this proposal would be illegal because of its RL references anyway...

OOC: Actually, only a tiny fraction of their population is at all fluent in Gaelic, and most of them do indeed speak [a dialect of] English instead for everyday purposes...
Yeah - I found out from an Irish ex that they all learn Gaelic at some point in school but very few take pains to remember, well, any of it. It's still alive out in the west, but the same could be said about Welsh in western Wales. Either way, the main language is 'British' English ('s' not 'z', extra 'u's, etc).

Given that everyone is already writing their proposals in English, I fail to see why this rule is necessary.
Waste of time.
Against it.

--Rooty

Why commonwealth english? why not Hirotan English? Everyone knows Hirotan English is the superior. :p

Given that everyone is already writing their proposals in English, I fail to see why this rule is necessary.
Waste of time.
Against it.

--Rooty
OOC: Er, because the author is advocating British English over American English?

IC: Are you kidding? Everything I read is in Celdonian.

OOC: Er, because the author is advocating British English over American English?

IC: Are you kidding? Everything I read is in Celdonian.

American English, British English, Canadian English (a most inconvenient mix of the two)
whatever
It's all English and the rule is dumb.
There is no way I am going to sit here and try to figure out if I worded my proposal according to the British way
You get Rooty English
And that's good enough for you

--Rooty

You get Rooty English
And that's good enough for you

--Rooty
Conveniently and lovingly translated into Celdonian, thankfully.

And no, I was not referring to your shite proposal addressing murder and manslaughter laws. Yes, that was shite. Yes, that was dumb. That said, however, there have been proposals submitted to the austere body that were far more stupid.

For example...
HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed By: The Orion Nebula

PREAMBLE
The intent of the UN rules governing proposals is to insure that substantial issues are discussed. It is entirely just and proper that this should be so. Similarly, the intent of the Freedom of Humor Act, which recently passed the UN by an almost 4 to 1 margin, is to allow these issues to be discussed in an entertaining and amusing way. This too is entirely just and proper and will lead to a happier and more humane citizenry. The Whimsical Republic of the Orion Nebula is therefore proud to submit the following for consideration.

HIPPO AWARENESS DAY
WHEREAS, although Hippos are indeed quite large there exists some controversy as to whether they are the second or third largest land animal;

AND WHEREAS the Hippos are known to be distressed by the terrible way that mankind has treated the environment of the Earth;

AND WHEREAS Hippos are not only an endangered species but young Hippos are often mocked in junior high school for their ridiculous looking windbreakers, their large glasses and their round sneakers that resemble above-ground pools,

LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT each member nation of the United Nations declare the first Thursday following the Winter Solstice to be "Hippo Awareness Day".

AND LET IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED that each member nation shall create programs that, on this day, educate its populace to the plight of all endangered species, but mostly Hippos. These programs should also raise the environmental awareness of the citizenry and encourage conservation.

AND LET IT BE EVEN FURTHER RESOLVED that these programs should contain the information that HIPPOS ARE BIG to help them regain their rightful place as the Earth's second largest land animal. Also this could be best accomplished by encouraging people to visit the zoo to see Hippos in the flesh so they can understand just how big Hippos are. This would prevent hurt Hippo feelings when people, unfamiliar with the size of Hippos, say "Wow, Hippos are big!" as opposed to having a comfortable idea about the relative size of Hippos, which would cause them to say "Now, THAT is a big Hippo!" only in the presence of an overtly large representative of the species.

AND LET IT BE STILL FURTHER RESOLVED that the member nations of the UN are encouraged to broadcast a national telethon on Hippo Awareness Day to raise money for the establishment of national parks and wildlife sanctuaries.

ALSO hello.

Votes For: 6382
Votes Against: 12214
Voting Ended: Tue Dec 16 2003

And then there was 'Promotion of Solar Panels', which actually managed to get passed although it was repealed again very swiftly, about which the least said the better...

Why commonwealth english? why not Hirotan English? Everyone knows Hirotan English is the superior. :p

But 'Anglish' is a purer tongue, without the Norman influence... ;-)

For example...

[ HIPPOS! ]

And then there was 'Promotion of Solar Panels', which actually managed to get passed although it was repealed again very swiftly, about which the least said the better...

And the Inflatable Gandalf Act. Can't forget that one. It inspired my nation's motto. :D

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4935/hijack9me.jpg

I'd have voted for the hippos.

I'd have voted for the hippos.I actually did, in a previous life.

I'd have voted for the hippos.
I'd have voted for the inflatable Gandalfs.

I'd have voted for the hippos.I... didn't.

Either way, the main language is 'British' English ('s' not 'z', extra 'u's, etc).

OOC: Don't you mean "the right number of 'u's, etc"? ;)

I'd have voted for the hippos.


Actually, on further consideration, I have to admit that it wasn't really that bad: Rather silly by most standards, admittedly, but definitely well-written especially when compared to a lot of the other proposals that I've seen...

And the Inflatable Gandalf Act. Can't forget that one. It inspired my nation's motto. :D

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4935/hijack9me.jpg

And the one with the sheep & the railguns... ;)

We will lose our monopoly on babelfish if this goes through. You stick the little fishy in your ear and it instantly translates whatever someone is saying to your language. It survives off ear wax so you never have to feed it. Only $50 per fish buy them now.

And the one with the sheep & the railguns... ;)

I'd forgotten about that one. That was a classic! :D

There was a vote on hippos and their size?
I am certain that, had I known about it, I would have been furiously flailing my arms, trying desperately to remind everyone that crap like that is not within the purview of the UN.

--Rooty

http://shanghaiflow.canalblog.com/images/t-Gandalf_Sign.jpg

But 'Anglish' is a purer tongue, without the Norman influence... ;-)
ð!

Anglisc > Anglish > English

We will lose our monopoly on babelfish if this goes through. You stick the little fishy in your ear and it instantly translates whatever someone is saying to your language. It survives off ear wax so you never have to feed it. Only $50 per fish buy them now.


That explains why the darn thing tasted like wax and didn't work.. next time can we get one with instructions in Zeldonian.

We will lose our monopoly on babelfish if this goes through. You stick the little fishy in your ear and it instantly translates whatever someone is saying to your language. It survives off ear wax so you never have to feed it. Only $50 per fish buy them now.
You may have the monopoly on babelfish, but our method is somewhat less repulsive to some. Our translators are, get this, a device and not an animal. You wear it and it translates 2 ways. Plus it has the added feature of converting Vogon poetry into simple, non-harmful (to an extent) elevator music.

You may have the monopoly on babelfish, but our method is somewhat less repulsive to some. Our translators are, get this, a device and not an animal. You wear it and it translates 2 ways. Plus it has the added feature of converting Vogon poetry into simple, non-harmful (to an extent) elevator music.

And I thought Vogon poetry was bad.....

Well he could have approved the death metal in lifts issue...

You may have the monopoly on babelfish, but our method is somewhat less repulsive to some. Our translators are, get this, a device and not an animal. You wear it and it translates 2 ways. Plus it has the added feature of converting Vogon poetry into simple, non-harmful (to an extent) elevator music.

Sounds good! Does that mean I can finally take this damn fish out of my ear? People are starting to stare.

Well he could have approved the death metal in lifts issue...
Actually I think I did, but unfortunately that was too complex for the translators so we're stuck with good old fashioned crap.

my eyes hurt from reading such shite.

Instantly opposed.

It proposes that no proposal would be accepted by The United Nations if the word in question was colour and you spelled it without a "u" :confused:

Okay... I think this has run its course.