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The Sultanate of Puerto Cabrerdes would like to propose a resolution to create a standing United Nations force of about a quarter of a million men to be on call for peacekeeping missions and other duties. I'd like to know who would be in favor of that

Army, Police, SWAT, etc

The UN doesn't get an army. Nor does it get to form The World Police. This is pretty clear: don't do it.

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Rules aside, considering that Forgottenlands is 3 billion people, Forgotten Territories combines to 6.5 billion people, Aberdeen combines to well over 70 billion and we compose only 106 of over 100,000 nations with our largest nation less than half the size of many of the largest nations in the game, a quarter million is like a needle in the haystack that's the size of the planet. Spit does more damage to a pan.

I would think you'd appreciate us for saving you the trouble, Hack. ;)

I would think you'd appreciate us for saving you the trouble, Hack. ;)Not when you post while I'm posting. :p

my men and I are ready for duty. I will glady help out with any cause.

Any cause?

In that case, my garden is being invaded by weeds. My nation requires assistance in ridding itself of this terrible curse...

And I heard there's an 'Ol' Red Rooster' in need of protection.

This is illigal for about a hundred reasons. Fifty of these reasons "The UN cannot have a standing army". Yes, that reason repeated fifty times.

wot happens if we dont have an army then were a bit dead aint we
if we dont this will happen 2 u U ->:) :sniper:
u wont be very happy will u

And I heard there's an 'Ol' Red Rooster' in need of protection.


And don't forget that as Don Flib says, "We all gotta go out and meet her when she comes.":p

wot happens if we dont have an army then were a bit dead aint we
if we dont this will happen 2 u U ->:) :sniper:
u wont be very happy will u


Then form an army. The UN CAN'T have one.

If I'm not mistaken, aren't U.N. peacekeeping forces made up of participating nations in the U.N. In other words, the nations in a way make up the U.N. army, as a temporary force whenever needed.

If there were to be a "U.N. military force" the question arises of what nation/nations would comprise it and would it be on a voluntary or involuntary basis.

And don't forget that as Don Flib says, "We all gotta go out and meet her when she comes.":p
UH, I hate to be the one to break this to you but, roosters are always male.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

If I'm not mistaken, aren't U.N. peacekeeping forces made up of participating nations in the U.N. In other words, the nations in a way make up the U.N. army, as a temporary force whenever needed.

If there were to be a "U.N. military force" the question arises of what nation/nations would comprise it and would it be on a voluntary or involuntary basis.
I believe that your answers to your questions can be found here.
Army, Police, SWAT, etc

The UN doesn't get an army. Nor does it get to form The World Police. This is pretty clear: don't do it.


Bob Flibble
UN Representative

No army for the UN.
Period.
It's just a bad idea from start to finish, and if you even think of trying to put a resolution through, I will totally be voting against it.

--Rooty
Anti-World-Government

Aberdeen combines to well over 70 billion and we compose only 106 of over 100,000 nationsHeh. TPOT has 19 nations and has a population of 56.93 billion. Rawr, baby.

What's really interesting (sad?) is that the 4 nations that make up the Federation have 23.5 billion to their name. That's not even a region or an alliance, it's a nation and its three protectorates :eek:

So... yeah. 250,000 soldiers aren't going to make much of a difference. Unless they're all Mary Sues, in which case you really only need one anyway.

"The UN cannot have a standing army".. While this is up here.. What about something like a NSUN World Emergency Responce Force...? As such set up pulling persons and equipment from members to move into areas where trouble happens.. Such as earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, and others. Even including nuke meltdown of power plants. It may have been done but would this be considered one of those forces the UN can't have?

ooc:
We could really do with a one post sticky that lists the Resolutions that are in effect, below those that have been repealed, and a one line summary of each....just stick it on the first page of the big one...

Yes there is Zeldon, except the Fnar-king UN section of the NS website won't open for me to find it.

Edit...and now it is I have to find the thing manually...if there's a search engine for the proposal list why isn't there one for the resolution list? At least a 'go to resolution number x' would make things easier :headbang: [/rant]

page 15...Oct '04. At least they're familiar to me now. Should have worked backwards.
(it was only 23rd Oct 04 that Axis of Evil got repealed?)
Loading so...slow...ly...
Found it!
Resolution #100, Natural Disaster Act
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets....

2. ESTABLISHES a Natural Disaster Assessment Organisation (NDAO) which has the following tasks:
a. Conduct research on natural disasters, preventative methods and monitoring systems,
b. Coordinate international cooperation on this field, in scientific research and in practical solutions,
c. Create protocols for warning about possible disasters, evacuation plans and local disaster awareness programmes,
d. Maintain contacts with local authorities and local organisations in order to improve communication of information about possible natural disasters and how to respond to them,
e. Maintain contacts with national governments participating in the NDAO, the Tsunami Warning Center, and the UN;

..and now I remember there's the sticky I could have looked in. Guess one tortilla =/= to brunch.

wot happens if we dont have an army then were a bit dead aint we
if we dont this will happen 2 u U ->:) :sniper:
u wont be very happy will u
Wow, an ambassador who thinks 2 means to. I think the nation of Yousuf really needs to rethink the choice of ambassador.

The people of Quamarian fear a united nations forces could easily be corrupted by capitalist interests, so we must demand that no standing force is constructed.

Ya I agree that no standing army shud be drawn up as the Taoist Federation hav been debating, but I believe that ther shud be an agreement drawn up by all nations to:
a) Support each other in times of crisis with major military aid (not minor like quarter million)
b) Support each other in times of crisis with substantial financial aid
c) If UN nations begin to bicker amongst themselves, then a large peace keeping force shud be sent from all allied nations to promote peace
d) If a UN nation tries to corrupt the UN agreement, they shall be forthwith banned from all aid unless a tidy sum of 5 billion be paid out to UN.
e) All money UN gains through its various projects be stored for financial aid in times of crisis and major projects.
f) All nations must send their forces, if ased to, to the required areas in crisis and support nations in crisis, if asked to.

I dont know if that covers it all or if some of them are copies of each other. But if the agreement isn't out yet, I wud like to hav one. And I will stand by it.

Even if the UN DID have a standing army (which it can't, and was never really meant to have):

1. How would contributions of troops be decided? Would it be mandatory? Would the number of troops that one would have to commit be based on population, or economic capability? Military might? Current administration?

2. By giving the UN a standing army, it would make it far from neutral. That would be ill-advised.

3.It would be much easier to just reform the UN Peacekeeping forces and their practices than to create a seperate army.

Can we lock this thread. The original proposal was deleted many days ago and all we're doing is debating the merits of an entity that can never exist.