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Dear fellow states,

As the Leader of the Democratic Republic of Zabbar Malta, I am proposing an Open Skies Agreement...

What is An Open Skies Agreement?

Basically, it is an agreement between states in which the countries/states agree to open their airspace in order for other companies in order states to operate freely internally in their airspace.

This means that for example my airline company can start operate their aircraft in another state without returning back to my airport. The airline basically creates a 'hub' into the airport.

What are the advantages of The Open Skies Policy

There are advantages of having this policy. These are:

1) Competition between airlines which results into the second advantage.
2) Cheaper Fares thus reducing the CPS (Cost Per Seat) for a passenger.
3) No Monopoly, meaning that there will be competition.
4) LCC Set Up within the borders of the country (LCCs = Low Cost Companies)

What are the Diasadvantages of this Policy?

Well, Since there are advantages, there ought to be also disadvantages.

1) Competition can kill any small companies based to operate within the restricted airspace
2) More Congestion
3) High rate of Competition resulting into the slamming down of fare prices
4) If airlines have a larger budget they will be favoured to be the best.

I'm looking forward for your comments and I strongly agree with the Open Skies Policy.

Ruben Zammit

I'm not sure I quite understand what a 'clear skies agreement' is according to your explanation. Could you explain it again please?

Oh and putting it in a proposal form might help.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

Dear fellow states,

As the Leader of the Democratic Republic of Zabbar Malta, I am proposing an Open Skies Agreement...

What is An Open Skies Agreement?

Basically, it is an agreement between states in which the countries/states agree to open their airspace in order for other companies in order states to operate freely internally in their airspace.

This means that for example my airline company can start operate their aircraft in another state without returning back to my airport. The airline basically creates a 'hub' into the airport.

What are the advantages of The Open Skies Policy

There are advantages of having this policy. These are:

1) Competition between airlines which results into the second advantage.
2) Cheaper Fares thus reducing the CPS (Cost Per Seat) for a passenger.
3) No Monopoly, meaning that there will be competition.
4) LCC Set Up within the borders of the country (LCCs = Low Cost Companies)

What are the Diasadvantages of this Policy?

Well, Since there are advantages, there ought to be also disadvantages.

1) Competition can kill any small companies based to operate within the restricted airspace
2) More Congestion
3) High rate of Competition resulting into the slamming down of fare prices
4) If airlines have a larger budget they will be favoured to be the best.

I'm looking forward for your comments and I strongly agree with the Open Skies Policy.

Ruben ZammitYeah you need to write it in a proposal format rather than in essay format.

You might have our support however, but concerns for security may need to be considered.

Well an Open Skies Agreement consists of A Policy between two or more countries regarding on their airspace contention.

This means that these two countires agree that their airlines can operate from which airport/hub they want within the given area...

For example, if I do an agreement with you, my airline can operate from a city in your country to a city in your country without returning back to my land.

That is mainly what the Open Skies Policy is.

Now I'm proposing this because this has a lot of benefits:

The Airlines create competition and this healthy since many airlines can compete on the same route without needing to apply for rights to that route

If the Open Skies Policy is taken in action, airport can make their ground handling fees higher and thus the country's economy will get stronger for every airline landed.

The Open skies policy encourageous LCC (Low Cost Companies) to operate since these companies offer low fare prices and good services.

Unfortunately for some airports, they need to be expanded and we can reach an agreement to fund the expansion of runways if needed.

The Open Skies Policy ensures that a healthy competition is done between the airlines and this results into further expansion and modernisation fo the airport in whichthese companies operate.

So i'm proposing that this proposal would be discussed and I want your comment about it.

Thanks,
Yours and God Bless your nation,

Ruben

Meh, it's better than some proposals I've seen. I guess some of us regulars expect too much.

I meant in a semi-pro format, using "NOTING" etc etc.

Here read this to see what I mean. You don't have to follow it, it's not in the rules, but they do look good when they are followed.

Everything You Ever Wanted
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Introduction
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Thanks for the hints... Tried to do it better and implemented new text

The Open Skies Policy Implements an agreement between two or more countries in order for their airlines to benefit from several clauses that form this policy. These clauses enable the airline to operate internally between two cities in a country where this policy is found, without returning back to his main hub, usually found in his country.

Mainly, The Open Skies Policy introduces these agendas:

The Airlines create competition and this healthy since many airlines can compete on the same route without needing to apply for rights to that route

If the Open Skies Policy is taken in action, airport can make their ground handling fees higher and thus the country's economy will get stronger for every airline landed.

The Open skies policy courageous LCC (Low Cost Companies) to operate since these companies offer low fare prices and good services.

Unfortunately for some airports, they need to be expanded and we can reach an agreement to fund the expansion of runways if needed.

The Open Skies Policy ensures that a healthy competition is done between the airlines and this result into further expansion and modernisation for the airport in which these companies operate.

Safety

How can an airline operate with this Policy without observing the safety standards? All aircraft in this Policy need to have various types of safety measures in order to get the right to operate into this policy. All planes must be:

Equipped with oxygen gas masks into the aisles (were the seats can be found).

All planes must have safety inflatable slides in order to evacuate rapidly if a runway would get over run

All Planes must be checked after 3 months and a ‘C’ Check must be done every 10-15 years. A ‘C’ check strips off the plane fuselage from the interior and even the outer fuselage in order to rebuild it again.

Also Runways must have safety measures:

All Runways must be at least three kilometres long.

All Runways must have a parallel taxiway in order to clear the runway very rapidly.

In Order to get a parallel runway, you need to contact the United Nations Board of Aviation Safety and apply for a parallel runway. This ONLY has to be done if your aircraft arrival rate exceeds 35-40 aircraft per hour.
Also so note that all aircraft manufactured between 1960 till 1980 must be fitted with stage 4 or Stage 4 hush kits in order to reduce noise due to the Noise Regulations.

Another thing is that a Committee fro Aviation standards, will be set up to make sure that all these safety standards are observed.


Thanks for reading,
May God give you a prosperous government,
Ruben Zammit (Leader of Democratic Republic of Zabbar Malta)

In Order to get a parallel runway, you need to contact the United Nations Board of Aviation Safety and apply for a parallel runway. This ONLY has to be done if your aircraft arrival rate exceeds 35-40 aircraft per hour.No such animal.

Lol....

I can't say FAA since the name is copyrighted.

So what should I say?

Lol....

I can't say FAA since the name is copyrighted.

So what should I say?
You would have to set up a committee, and then use it.

Yes, Its ok

But do I need to do a proposal to set up a new committee?

You could do it within your main proposal. Actually, that is advisable - I don't think the mods look kindly on proposals devoted entirely to setting up commitees.

Something along the lines of 'Creates the United Nations Board of Aviation Safety to oversee and create guidelines for aviation safety' or somesuch.

Edited the post above.... Last sentence...

We suggest the representative of Zabbar Malta peruse the passed resolutions (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Timeline), especially the later ones, for an idea as to normal legislative style.

The delegates from Dancing Bananaland would liek to express their concern over this proposal. If we understand it correctly, we will have less control over what aircraft may enter our airspace. However we support the growth of the air industry, recent terrorist attacks have made security the forefrunt of our nation's concerns, and we dislike not having cotnrol over what can and cannot fly over our airspace.

This seems to us to be an idea worth exploring further. We do have some questions.

First, the explanation of the Open Skies Policy describes it as "an agreement between two or more countries." Is it intended that this proposal should mandate an Open Skies Policy for all UN member nations?

Second, we could not support this sort of thing without uniform air safety standards in effect. But we think it might be too much to try to include them in this proposal. There was a very good draft of an air traffic safety proposal being discussed a while back. Unfortunately, it seemed to just die a natural death. Does anyone know the author?

Finally, we assume that this would not impair a nation's authority to declare restricted air space for reasons of national security or safety. Are we right?

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

I wrote a proposal about this yonks ago...

I wrote a proposal about this yonks ago...

*removes hat, and acts humble(something Sulla is not very good at doing, he lacks sincerity.*

Good sir, do you think you can find it? It might be helpful to this debate?
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla

in order states to operate freely internally in their airspace.
Does this mean they can operate without restriction in any airspace over any nation...?
What are the Diasadvantages of this Policy?
Well, Since there are advantages, there ought to be also disadvantages.
1) Competition can kill any small companies based to operate within the restricted airspace
Thus how can it be possible to kill any small companies as there will be if I understand this right no restricted airspace... thus leading to your next comment and one we need to consider.
2) More Congestion
Older planes from less develped nations running into newer planes due to communiction between them thus a threat danger to those below in that open airspace. There needs to be restrictions on airspace to keep it safe for the sake of thos living under it. This has no safety factors in it nor does it prevent the use of civilian aircraft as weapons of mass destruction... since open means just that open...

It seems to me that what's basically being proposed here is a UN-wide "Free Trade Zone" for civil air services, yes? The government of St Edmund would be in general favour of such a measure, as long as adequate provision was given for limitations during wartime, although we feel that (as various other nations' spokespeople have already pointed out) the current draft could stand some improvement before its submission...

It seems to me that what's basically being proposed here is a UN-wide "Free Trade Zone" for civil air services, yes? The government of St Edmund would be in general favour of such a measure, as long as adequate provision was given for limitations during wartime, although we fell that (as various other nations' spokespeople have already pointed out) the current draft could stand some improvement before its submission...

Basically yes that is.... It is all about operating into another country without returning back to your main airport (hub)

As I see it the major potential problems with an open skies agreement is the following:

1) Non uniform maintenance and safety regulations. I believe a number of RW EU nations already keep out some nations from their airspace because the safety record of those national arilines are ... in short ... horrid.

2) Non uniform security regulations. Ever since 9/11 people have realized that you need a minimum standard of security on an airline in order to allow it into your airspace. Airplanes can be dangerous if used improperly.

Assuming these could be addressed and that the resolution could be written in a form that (1) is proper and (2) contains a title and general layout that will appease the fluffies (alas few people really look at the meat of a resolution) then I would suspect that this would sail through this body easily.

The bigges threat from airlines apparently was not foreign competition. BA and AA for example aren't killing each other over the atlantic ocean trade. It was the creation of cheap low frills companies (local for the most part) that caused the a WALL*MART effect (low prices is everything) that caused the near bankrupcy of several lines and this was only because of a system that basically had good routes paying for the poor routes losses, and when cheap airlines only went on those good routes they undercut the price so that the good routes could no longer support the poor routes anymore.

On the other hand crouding can be a major problem, given the fact that Nation States is by definition potentially insane. (Consider the total number of nations in the UN, total populaton etc and suspension of disbelief becomes insane.) Another UN gnome committee may have to be established to regulate over crouding along the most populat routes.