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I would like you to read and think about my proposal, If you find it fitting your views please approve it, here's the link:
http://www.nationstates.net/04340/page=UN_proposal/start=30

Punish murderers with slavery
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Rome Total Realism

Description: APPLAUDING the passage of Resolution #6 “End of slavery,”

BELIEVING that murderers should not be killed in turn but should do something to help the community they hurt.

AFFIRMING that this somewhat endangers fair competition.

NOTING that that can be fixed by making sure a company can only have 10% of their work force be sentenced slaves.

CONCERNED that this will lead to milder violations of the law shall be punished with slavery.

DECLARING that murderers should be punished not with death but with community service in the form of slavery.

Hereby:

1. Establishes the Organisation For Rights of Enslaved Murderers (OFREM) and authorizes it to:
I - Make sure basic human rights are respected, it is one thing to not pay the murderers for their jobs, but they need to be fed.
II - Punish nations who not respect the limitations of this resolution with monetary punishments
III - Establish, publish, and regularly update:
A list of companies and nations who use slaves in their economy and the percent of slaves a company employs.
IV - close companies who do not respect the 10% cap on employed slaves

2. STRONGLY URGES UN member nations to provide assistance to the OFREM and if not at least respect its judgement.

3. IMPOSES a limitation that requires a company to have 90% or more of its working force not be slaves or prepare the consequences
(see 1. IV for the consequences)
B) Of a nation's work force only 5 percent can be slaves.

4. FORBIDS nations to trade slaves with other nations, except in case of a surplus in slaves, then these are to be given to nations who want them for free, or be killed on the costs of the condemned.
B) FEELS that in this case free trade is not morally acceptable.

5. FORBIDS companies to kill its slaves except after a slave violated a law that allows him to be killed, the OFREM should be contacted when this is the case.

6. FURTHER REQUIRES a company to allow a married slave to have contact his wife.

Approvals: 6 (Rome Total Realism, Muftwafa, Desert Storm Iraq, The PeoplesFreedom, OmniMega Pharma-Corp, Prasin)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 118 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu Apr 20 2006

I would like to add that this of course is merely a slight tweak of the 'end slavery' resolution, not a repeal, but just a resolution that makes it possible to sentence murderers with slavery. It does not make slavery on the whole legal again.

I would like to add that this of course is merely a slight tweak of the 'end slavery' resolution, not a repeal, but just a resolution that makes it possible to sentence murderers with slavery. It does not make slavery on the whole legal again.

Wouldn't that make it an ammendment?

Ammendments are not allowed under the game rules as far as I am aware, so even if I could support this, which I don't because any form of slavery is totally repugnant to our nation, that would make it illegal.

I respectfully oppose this proposal. Slavery is a despicable and oppressive practice, which, while comparable to murder, has far worse implications; an eternity of torment and work is far worse than death.

My friend, it is a brilliant idea to belive that these bottomfeeders can be used as slaves, a quick end to their lives is not what one should want. A lifetime of torture, servitude, and retribution for great sin. Looking upon lesser crimes, they are atrocities, and go against the morality of society, but can be forgiven in lesser punishment or service, for they dont deny a man or woman the right to live.

"Peace out yal!"
- Head of State Altinus Maximus

My friend, it is a brilliant idea to belive that these bottomfeeders can be used as slaves, a quick end to their lives is not what one should want. A lifetime of torture, servitude, and retribution for great sin. Looking upon lesser crimes, they are atrocities, and go against the morality of society, but can be forgiven in lesser punishment or service, for they dont deny a man or woman the right to live.

"Peace out yal!"
- Head of State Altinus Maximus

I would like to add that this of course is merely a slight tweak of the 'end slavery' resolution, not a repeal, but just a resolution that makes it possible to sentence murderers with slavery. It does not make slavery on the whole legal again.



Call it TWEAK or AMEND you have to get rid of Resolution #6 before you do anything to change it's effects. To do that you must REPEAL #6 then submit a new proposal and got throught the process to get both passed.

Also we still prefer to hang them for those barbaric crimes one does against citizens of our nation. As any process that keeps them alive means exactly what you say we have to feed and care for them. Thus honest citizens often lack due to funds going to support criminals or keep them around bleeding society again and again.. Only good rapest or killer is one swinging from a good rope in a very tall tree.

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/tpcard1kr.jpg

Wow, haven't seen that card in a while! :D

If murderers have blasphemed against the Flame, then they are executed by the Courts of the Flame. Otherwise, they are treated as per local law, which sometimes means indentured servitude, sometimes execution, sometimes imprisonment.

Against this proposal.
Let each nation deal with its murderers in their own way.

--Rooty

I thought this was a good idea, I didn't know it is not allowed to 'tweak the effects' of a previous resolution.

I thought this was a good idea, I didn't know it is not allowed to 'tweak the effects' of a previous resolution.It's okay, you are new, and most people don't know these things when they join the UN.

For what it's worth, it's well written as a piece of text.

What you could do, is perhaps encourage voluntary servitude as a alternative to other punishments, such as the death penalty. But you'd need to consider this further. I'm not sure how much support it would get. A lot of nations value their right to gas/shoot/hang/decapitate their populace.

I'd much rather give murderers the firing squad, thanks.

I prefer we use criminals such as murderer as slaves to clean up toxic waste. They clean up helping the community as slaves, then later on 3-10 minutes later die from radiation levels. It is what I call Capitalistic genius. That way they die suffering for there crimes and from being overworked. When they commit a crime they are no longer worthy to be treated as human beings. They are to be used as tools fopr punishment or free enterprise in labor camps.

This does not work. Slaves mix with the community and remain a threat. You would have to separate them from the community. Hard prison labor is much better if you are going to do this.

Does "banning slavery" actually say anything about endentured (sounds like old people needing new teeth) workers or work use or prisoners? I should probably take a look at that.