NationStates Jolt Archive


(almost) QUEUED: Repeal "Scientific Freedom"

Jey
13-03-2006, 23:26
The proposal to Repeal the past Resolution "Scientific Freedom" was kinda sorta at quorum, but is now deleted.

Description: UN Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom (http://www.nationstates.net/54925/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=1) (Category: Free Trade; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The General Assembly of the United Nations,

COMMENDING Resolution #2 for its intent to bring forth increased freedoms,

CONSIDERING that simply stating that a country "has long stood for Scientific Freedom", as seen in this resolution, does not require anything of UN Members, nor does it urge UN Members to bring forth initiatives or commissions to promote Scientific Freedom,

ALSO CONSIDERING that Resolution #2 neither lists a clear definition or explanation as to what constitutes Scientific Freedom, nor does it provide any clear framework or plans to bring about its cause,

CONCERNED that this resolution overlooks the harmful effects of unrestricted Scientific Freedom, which would lead to numerous painful, deadly, unsafe, and unethical scientific practices being forcibly legal in all UN Member nations,

CONCLUDING that Resolution #2 does not meet the desirable standards of UN resolutions for its disregard for potentially harmful and unjustifiable scientific practices and failure to provide any clear structure in bringing about necessary Scientific Freedom,

UNDERSTANDING that the freedom of safe and ethical scientific practices should be protected for numerous purposes,

REPEALS Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom.
The Beltway
13-03-2006, 23:30
Seeing as how Resolution Two has no enforceable language, we'll vote in favor of the repeal.
Signed,
Office of the Ambassador of The Beltway to the NS UN
Jey
14-03-2006, 13:49
Ok, do these problems with the forums have anything to do with my proposal reaching quorum and still getting deleted (again)?
The Most Glorious Hack
14-03-2006, 13:54
The two shouldn't be connected, but as Jolt does run the NS servers as well, they could be connected. I'm really not sure.
Fonzoland
14-03-2006, 14:13
Ok, do these problems with the forums have anything to do with my proposal reaching quorum and still getting deleted (again)?

How many approvals did you have over quorum? I think invalid delegates are deleted before the expiration check.
Gruenberg
14-03-2006, 14:23
It was very tight to making quorum; my guess is a few delegates lost their positions, and it slipped under. Again.
Tzorsland
14-03-2006, 14:49
I would just like t say that I am personally opposed to this repeal. Now if you will excuse me I must go back for my morning coffee. (Drops note on way out.)

Hey MM!

Get out of that dam Starbucks and start talking to people about
the insanity of taking us all back to the Stone Age
by repealing resolution #2.

This could severely harm both the Bionic Lycanthrope
Human Rat Penguin Project and the Land Mine Laying
Pelican Dog Hybrid Project.

We must not allow moral morons the right
to impede our rightful scientific progress.

- Rani
Jey
14-03-2006, 14:55
Get out of that dam Starbucks and start talking to people about
the insanity of taking us all back to the Stone Age
by repealing resolution #2.

See assumptions like these are going to result in all the against votes if this ever reaches the floor (I will try it again...*sigh*). Resolution #2 does absolutely nothing. As said before, its just a speech that we should probably allow Scientific Freedom. Even if this resolution reached its goal, it would be even worse than it is now. It would allow unrestricted scientific freedom, which means anything that you can lump the term "scientific" before it must be legal in all UN member nations, no matter how deadly and unsafe it is.
Ceorana
14-03-2006, 15:17
See assumptions like these are going to result in all the against votes if this ever reaches the floor (I will try it again...*sigh*). Resolution #2 does absolutely nothing. As said before, its just a speech that we should probably allow Scientific Freedom. Even if this resolution reached its goal, it would be even worse than it is now. It would allow unrestricted scientific freedom, which means anything that you can lump the term "scientific" before it must be legal in all UN member nations, no matter how deadly and unsafe it is.
So why waste our time repealing it? Just work on a better version. It's not like they contradict.
Gruenberg
14-03-2006, 15:25
So why waste our time repealing it? Just work on a better version. It's not like they contradict.
Because:
1. Bad law should be repealed as a matter of course.
2. Its vagueries are dangerous. Do you want us to send our anthrax researchers into Ceorana?
Safalra
14-03-2006, 15:59
It was very tight to making quorum; my guess is a few delegates lost their positions, and it slipped under. Again.
When I looked at the UN this morning it was among the resolutions listed under 'Recent Events' as failing to have reach quorum.
Palentine UN Office
15-03-2006, 03:57
So why waste our time repealing it? Just work on a better version. It's not like they contradict.


Repealing laws, especially laws that do jack shit, is a noble endeavor. But then again, I am an evil conservative, who wants to force schoolchildren to be served ketchup as a vegetable, in their government funded school lunches.:)
Fonzoland
15-03-2006, 06:44
government funded school lunches
:confused:
Palentine UN Office
15-03-2006, 18:00
:confused:

Just being my normal smart a** self.:)
Fonzoland
15-03-2006, 19:00
Just being my normal smart a** self.:)

:confused: meant "Palentine funds school lunches???"
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 19:05
:confused: meant "Palentine funds school lunches???"

No, the US does -- or at least used to -- for children from low-income families. Palentine's reference was to a Reagan administration policy that considered ketchup to be a vegetable in a school lunch.
Ceorana
16-03-2006, 03:18
No, the US does -- or at least used to -- for children from low-income families. Palentine's reference was to a Reagan administration policy that considered ketchup to be a vegetable in a school lunch.
The US still does it for low-income students.
Palentine UN Office
16-03-2006, 03:40
so Jey, are you gonna resubmit this bad boy?
Jey
16-03-2006, 05:40
so Jey, are you gonna resubmit this bad boy?

Yes, I was planning for 730 PM Eastern US time on Friday. I know its suggested to submit on Mondays, but I think the weekend will provide me with much more time to round up a good TG campaign.
Cluichstan
16-03-2006, 13:29
The US still does it for low-income students.

Thanks. Wasn't sure. It's been a while since I was a low-income student. ;)