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Seeing as i lack the proper endorsements for creating a proposal on my own, i would like this topic to be for review by the United Nations

UN affiliate lisence
permitting nations to endorse other nations
allowing these affiliates to have UN changes made on them
not allowing UN affiliates to submit or vote on proposals

If some one could do me a favor and submit this proposal, that would be very nice

send me a telegram for more info
send me a telegram when you've submitted the proposal


thanks!

-Epsilon Andromedae

Game-mechanics violation. Sorry.

Ouch. You shot that one down.

Epsilon Andromedae, even if your suggestion had been legal, it needed a helluva lot of work. You probably didn't realise what you were asking when you suggested that someone "submit this proposal" when you didn't yet have a proposal.

Proposals have to be written properly. You began the right way by bringing the first draft -- the basic idea -- to the forum for other posters to comment on. In this case it goes no further because, as Cluich pointed out, it's illegal, since it would change the way the game works if it were approved.

You may have other ideas you'd like the UN to act on, though. If you want more detailed help, or just want to learn the basics, there are a couple of forums you can join where experienced and inexperienced people try to sort out ideas so they have at least a chance of being discussed.

A new one, Reclamation (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Reclamation/index.php), is aimed at people of all political persuasions. Another, the National Sovereignty Organisation, (http://s11.invisionfree.com/NatSovOrg/index.php?) might be of interest to you, judging by the conversation on your regional board. This one (http://s3.invisionfree.com/UN_Organizations) gives you contact links for a number of other UN organisations.

There is a lot of stuff to learn, but it all comes together eventually. Good luck.

I would like to thank the esteemed representative of Ardchoille personally for that constructive and helpful response to a new member of this austere body. I realise I could have done the same, but I was pressed for time, as I had an urgent appointment with a servicewoman from Cluichstani Private Enterprises Ltd.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadberb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

I would like to thank the esteemed representative of Ardchoille personally for that constructive and helpful response to a new member of this austere body. I realise I could have done the same, but I was pressed for time, as I had an urgent appointment with a servicewoman from Cluichstani Private Enterprises Ltd.

Cluich, try thinking with your other head for once.

I'm wondering what the purpose of this proposed proposal (:)) is supposed to be. I don't see why a nation couldn't join the UN. The only reasons I could see wanting affiliates is:
a) (Legitimate) so that multiple people could access the UN from the same computer, or;
b) (Illegitimate) to allow you to be endorsed by your puppets.

Forgetting the Game Mechanics issue, I don't see why such a thing should be enacted. It rewards having lots of puppets.

Cluich, try thinking with your other head for once.

Where's the fun in that? :p

I'm wondering what the purpose of this proposed proposal (:)) is supposed to be. I don't see why a nation couldn't join the UN. The only reasons I could see wanting affiliates is:
a) (Legitimate) so that multiple people could access the UN from the same computer, or;
b) (Illegitimate) to allow you to be endorsed by your puppets.

Forgetting the Game Mechanics issue, I don't see why such a thing should be enacted. It rewards having lots of puppets.

Good point. We don't want to be doling out rewards to HotRodia.

<snip> I had an urgent appointment with a servicewoman from Cluichstani Private Enterprises Ltd.

Respectfully,
Sheik Nadberb bin Cluich
Cluichstani Ambassador to the UN

Tch, tch; union negotiations again, eh?

Our Secretary for Situations Like This, Mr McGonagle, suggests that if you agree to the "employer provides uniforms" claim you may be able to cite it as evidence of compliance under the new Workplace Safety Act. Check the Personal Protective Equipment provisions.

However, Mr McGonagle advises that 'Saucy Schoolgirl' might be more suitably filed as 'Educational Enterprise' for accounting purposes. He is sure you will already have listed 'Pert French Maid' in 'International Outreach Program'.
_____________________

Dicey Reilly, Co-President of Ardchoille.

Of course, just like "Naughty Nurse" comes out of the Health budget. ;)

Cluich, try thinking with your other head for once.
Where's that? :p
Corrected.

Corrected.

Well played! :D

Cluich, try thinking with your other head for once.

I'm wondering what the purpose of this proposed proposal (:)) is supposed to be. I don't see why a nation couldn't join the UN. The only reasons I could see wanting affiliates is:
a) (Legitimate) so that multiple people could access the UN from the same computer, or;
b) (Illegitimate) to allow you to be endorsed by your puppets.

Forgetting the Game Mechanics issue, I don't see why such a thing should be enacted. It rewards having lots of puppets.

OOC: I'm not sure that your interpretation (b) is correct: What I think that he might be asking for isn't to let non-members endorse members in the same way that other members could, for political power, it's for members to be able to "endorse" non-members in order to turn them into 'UN affiliates' and thus to have them affected by the stat-changing effects of resolutions even though (probably because they're puppets of the same players) they can't actually vote or have any oher political effects in the UN...

So Ardchoille could 'endorse' Findhorn, the nation from which Ardchoille was originally colonised, and Findhorn would then start feeling the effects of UN decisions?

That'd be interesting. Not really necessary, since, if I want to have a UN decision affect Findhorn, I can just RP it, but it would save calculations about how much it affects the 'client' nation.

Not that I do any calculations. I'm afraid of anything that would make NS like that other, more recent, Google-Earth-decorated nation creation game. It's the free-wheeling, loophole-riddled nature of NS that appeals to me.

OOC: I'm not sure that your interpretation (b) is correct: What I think that he might be asking for isn't to let non-members endorse members in the same way that other members could, for political power, it's for members to be able to "endorse" non-members in order to turn them into 'UN affiliates' and thus to have them affected by the stat-changing effects of resolutions even though (probably because they're puppets of the same players) they can't actually vote or have any oher political effects in the UN...

OK, I can see this. This, however, would turn the proposal from unnecessarily empowering to utterly pointless, as there would be no point to these UN affiliates anyway (what changes do UN resolutions make, besides the gnomes coming in, anyway?)

And yay loopholes! NS is like a framework, if you will, for deeper RP, rather than a game of that type in itself. I also like it like that. :)

OK, I can see this. This, however, would turn the proposal from unnecessarily empowering to utterly pointless, as there would be no point to these UN affiliates anyway (what changes do UN resolutions make, besides the gnomes coming in, anyway?)

OOC: Well, it would make logical sense where some of a player's nations are theoretically colonies of their UN member-nation which would be imposing the Resolutions within them even though they didn't hold separate membership...