NationStates Jolt Archive


Emergency Resolution Proposal

Hangup
20-02-2006, 23:40
As Member of the United Nations, We wish to bring to the attention of the Council the actions of one of the UN Member nations, Gilabad. It has recently come to the attention of the Government of The P.R Hangup that said nation has commited gross violation of human rights, and has murdered 90 foreign visitors to its nation, all members of the International Civil Liberties Union.

Said nation having not shown one ounce of remorse for this act, claiming that it falls to their own sovereignty as to how they deal with their own and other countries persons being in said nation,
the Government of P.R Hangup and also of The Beltaway, have imposed full and immediate trade sanctions against this nation.

We, the Government of P.R Hangup propose with immediate effect against this nation:

1: That the Council of the UN comdemn fully and irrevocably the actions of the Gilabad nation,

2: All members of the UN act immediately to restrict effective trade with the Gilabad nation, or to embargo all active trade with this nation

3: That the Gilabad nation be expelled from the UN for gross abuse of its own power, an disregard for human life within its own nation.

Strength: High - Action: Immediate

As delegate to the UN, I, Delegate Hung-Hi Won, ask for the adoption of this resolution as an Emergency Act for immediate completion.

Delegate Hung-Hi Won,
The People's Republic of Hangup
Golgothastan
20-02-2006, 23:55
This is illegal; resolutions cannot refer to individual nations. They also cannot be expelled from the UN for RPed actions. I believe in this case you have to ask for a Pretenema Panel decision.
Hangup
21-02-2006, 00:08
Thank you to the officer of Golgothastan who posted that information. I will withdraw the proposal effective immediately, but could someone please tell me how to direct a case to the Pretenema Panel?
Cluichstan
21-02-2006, 00:32
Isn't this the second time someone's popped in here to whine about Gilabad?
Golgothastan
21-02-2006, 00:34
Isn't this the second time someone's popped in here to whine about Gilabad?
Yes. First it was gays; now it is abortionists. Especially original RPing on his behalf, I feel.

To request TPP intervention...I don't really know. People stopped RPing it, so you can probably just say you have a ruling, and go invade or whatever.
Hangup
21-02-2006, 00:37
Out of character:

For your information, we are not whining about Gilabad. This was supposed to be a serious proposal, and I dont understand why it was declined. IRL, the UN can impose sanctions against Nations for their involvement in illegal activities, or the like. Why then is the N.S.U.N removed from this privilege? We don't expect nations who belong to the UN starting such major incidents as the one referred to. The UN IRL have sanctioned real countries for this... This kind of defeats the role of the NSUN if we can't use it effectively.


Thor A. Malmjursson,
Owner of the Hangup nation.
Fonzoland
21-02-2006, 00:38
First thing you do is check for a pulse. Maybe the smell will give away some information. If that doesn't bother you, try this link. (http://s3.invisionfree.com/UN_Organizations/index.php)
Golgothastan
21-02-2006, 00:39
Out of character:

For your information, we are not whining about Gilabad. This was supposed to be a serious proposal, and I dont understand why it was declined. IRL, the UN can impose sanctions against Nations for their involvement in illegal activities, or the like. Why then is the N.S.U.N removed from this privilege? We don't expect nations who belong to the UN starting such major incidents as the one referred to. The UN IRL have sanctioned real countries for this... This kind of defeats the role of the NSUN if we can't use it effectively.
The problem is NSUN resolutions affect all nations; it's really not fair to target specific nations. The Eon Convention and Humanitarian Intervention resolutions were conceived to allow actions such as those you desire.
Cluichstan
21-02-2006, 00:43
Out of character:

For your information, we are not whining about Gilabad. This was supposed to be a serious proposal, and I dont understand why it was declined. IRL, the UN can impose sanctions against Nations for their involvement in illegal activities, or the like. Why then is the N.S.U.N removed from this privilege? We don't expect nations who belong to the UN starting such major incidents as the one referred to. The UN IRL have sanctioned real countries for this... This kind of defeats the role of the NSUN if we can't use it effectively.


Thor A. Malmjursson,
Owner of the Hangup nation.

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/thenotthesamecard.jpg
Venerable libertarians
22-02-2006, 23:17
First thing you do is check for a pulse. Maybe the smell will give away some information. If that doesn't bother you, try this link. (http://s3.invisionfree.com/UN_Organizations/index.php)
Is that a slur aimed at the UNO? he forum may not be as active as it once was but There still are many nations who Are members of this organisation.

To answer this fine young nations enquiry, The NSUN is by its very nature a minnow in the NS community of Nations as not all the nations of NS are required to be members. Therefore The NSUN does not have the same or even similar powers as the RLUN. We as members set some resolutions which set the standard that a UN memberstate are to compose themselves nationally and internationally. As a result of one of these proposals "The pretenema panel" was convened on the UNO forum to investigate acts of Genocide by UN member Nations. This ultimately failed for several reasons with the result that If a nation wishes to commit genocide or any other crime or atrocity against its nationals or against peoples of another nation, they basically can. You may if you wish impose your own santions against the accused or even go to war with same. There are many role play threads where you can do just that.
My advice to you is to work here with the UN Members or join an off site forum such as the UNO and strive to raise awareness of these Rogue nations and come up with some tangable method of dealing with them. And best of luck with that as there is nothing stopping them.

VL.
Fonzoland
22-02-2006, 23:39
Is that a slur aimed at the UNO? he forum may not be as active as it once was but There still are many nations who Are members of this organisation.

No, actually it was a slur specifically directed at the TPP. If I remember correctly, it has been archived out of the main page.
Venerable libertarians
22-02-2006, 23:58
No, actually it was a slur specifically directed at the TPP. If I remember correctly, it has been archived out of the main page.
That is correct. As it no longer functions, and one could say never really did, the pretenema panel section of the UNO has indeed been archived. However I feel a snipe from you at the best efforts of the nations involved is unjust and unwarranted. While I thank you for pointing the founder of this thread in the general direction of the UNO forum I will remind you that as a member of the UNO I will take any snipes at it, or the organisations it represents and hosts, personally. If You have any better ideas please do share.

VL.
Earth74656
23-02-2006, 00:49
That is correct. As it no longer functions, and one could say never really did, the pretenema panel section of the UNO has indeed been archived. However I feel a snipe from you at the best efforts of the nations involved is unjust and unwarranted. While I thank you for pointing the founder of this thread in the general direction of the UNO forum I will remind you that as a member of the UNO I will take any snipes at it, or the organisations it represents and hosts, personally. If You have any better ideas please do share.

VL.

Sounds like someone has a case of the Madonnas, Fonzo get Cluichstan in here!!!
Venerable libertarians
23-02-2006, 01:10
Sounds like someone has a case of the Madonnas, Fonzo get Cluichstan in here!!!
:D

Just so you know N00B, .....
1, I know Fonzo well from the NSO and UNOG.
2, Fonzo has the capacity for intelligence and is capable of looking after himself.
3, My Moobs (Thats Manboobs) would never fit Madonnas conical bra.
4, I am a UNO Member disapointed with Fonzo's snipe. I simply made that point clear. I know there wasnt anything personal in it. I simply felt it was unwarranted and unjust. Fonzo did not participate in TPP. TPP was an honest attempt to apply a game resolution that ultimately failed but it was a huge learning step in role playing something set up by the resolutions of the NSUN. In that regard it was worth while participating.
Fonzoland
23-02-2006, 01:52
4, I am a UNO Member disapointed with Fonzo's snipe. I simply made that point clear. I know there wasnt anything personal in it. I simply felt it was unwarranted and unjust. Fonzo did not participate in TPP. TPP was an honest attempt to apply a game resolution that ultimately failed but it was a huge learning step in role playing something set up by the resolutions of the NSUN. In that regard it was worth while participating.

To be clear, Fonzo's original comment was just a way of rewriting "TPP is dead" in a hopefully humourous way, and not intended as an insult. As Fonzo was not around when TPP was working, he has no opinion on its merits or the behaviour of its members; he simply knows that it no longer exists. ;)
Venerable libertarians
23-02-2006, 02:55
To be clear, Fonzo's original comment was just a way of rewriting "TPP is dead" in a hopefully humourous way, and not intended as an insult. As Fonzo was not around when TPP was working, he has no opinion on its merits or the behaviour of its members; he simply knows that it no longer exists. ;)
Thats Cool fonzo. I was i'll admit being a lil bit pissy as i have worked hard lately to try to reinject some life into the sadly underused UNO forums. I read your post as a slur on the UNO as a whole and i personally think especially after my efforts, that wouldnt be helpful in aiding my efforts.
Anyhoo, theres no such thing as Bad press and on that note.....

Got Ideas? Join the UNO today! (http://s3.invisionfree.com/UN_Organizations/index.php?act=idx):D
Cluichstan
23-02-2006, 13:50
Sounds like someone has a case of the Madonnas, Fonzo get Cluichstan in here!!!

I have arrived. :cool:

However, in the future, if you wish to summon me, you must say my name three times. :p
Ecopoeia
23-02-2006, 15:24
Out of character:

Hangup, there's nothing stopping you from starting an RP thread in International Incidents (?) and inviting UN forum regulars to participate. I don't think there's any enthusiasm for reviving TPP at the mo, though perhaps an RP thread will attract the attention of enough UN members to have a positive influence on the situation (should the participants choose to bring about such an effect). The inability to mobilise the UN is, sadly, a game mechanics issue.

best wishes
Eco