NationStates Jolt Archive

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Hunting License

Dear Delegates,

~This proposal calls for the institution for a hunting license and seasons for game.

~Many species could become extinct if we do not implement this proposal soon.

~Each type of game should have a hunting season.
-It will be up to the Nation to decide what period each year or years that the animal could be hunted.
-If there is an overpopulation of the animal then, the nation can decide to lengthen the hunting season for that animal.
-Vice Versa, if the animal is endangered or at a low population the nation can shorten or put an end to that animal’s hunting season.

We don't need a UN hunting license.

Seems to me this is ground that has been covered by the UNCoESB resolution. You might consider Hirota's bushmeat proposal, though, as that may have some relevance to this.

The UNCoESB resolution covers the penalty for killing the species if it was not allowed by the country and sets up a commitee to track species population.

My proposal states that the government should regulate the time that each game animal could be hunted and that you would need a license to hunt that game.

That resolution protects the species by tallying the species, to show if it is endangered. My resolution says that the nation should decide based on the number of the species, when the hunting season should be allowed.

Hirota's Bushmeat draft deals with the trade of non-game animals meat. the UNCoESB resolution already gives penalties for killing non-game animals.

Sorry, but we see no need for any NSUN involvement in this. As long as nations properly implement the UNCoESB, we believe the NSUN has done as much as it should properly do.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

We don't need a UN hunting license.

That pretty much sums it up.

We would support this proposal, if its scope was reduced to hunting of UN Gnomes. Anything else is either covered by UNCoESB or unnaceptable micro-management.

Thankfully, we in Cobdenia do not use guns and bows. We capture the animals in barbed wire nets, torture them with knives and bright lights, then slowly burn them to death. For fun.

~The Hunting license would require a license for the guns or bows used.


This comes under gun control thus should not be part of this proposal. If you want to license such then make another proposal don't slip it in here. As we would oppose both this and as single one on gun control.. even the same for bows or any other minor weapon like bows. Now talk about IGNORE Cannon or NUKES and we might support it.. if it ain't already been done....


Also we have several tons of rusty barber wire we are willing to pass on for a resonable cost....

Hunting License

Dear Delegates,

~This proposal calls for the institution for a hunting license and seasons for game.

~Many species could become extinct if we do not implement this proposal soon.

~Each type of game should have a hunting season.
-It will be up to the Nation to decide what period each year or years that the animal could be hunted.
-If there is an overpopulation of the animal then, the nation can decide to lengthen the hunting season for that animal.
-Vice Versa, if the animal is endangered or at a low population the nation can shorten or put an end to that animal’s hunting season.
(Emphasis added) This proposal has no effect - by allowing States to determine the hunting season, and leaving lengthening or shortening up to individual States, the proposal does nothing to help endangered species as States could still allow year-round hunting whatever the circumstances.

Also, this is certainly a Category Violation - the proposal does not have any effect on the vehicle industry:

Category: Environmental Industry Affected: Automobile Manufacturing

(Emphasis added) This proposal has no effect - by allowing States to determine the hunting season, and leaving lengthening or shortening up to individual States, the proposal does nothing to help endangered species as States could still allow year-round hunting whatever the circumstances.
Doesn't mean the proposal has no effect. It establishes a concept, the exact implementation of which remains a national decision. There's plenty of precedent for that.

When I was submitting the proposal i forgot to change the category box to all industries.

If any moderator reads this can you delete my proposal so I can resubmit it.

Doesn't mean the proposal has no effect. It establishes a concept, the exact implementation of which remains a national decision. There's plenty of precedent for that.
The concept of a 'hunting season' exists independently of any UN resolution mentioning it. Any system currently in use will still be permissable under the terms of this proposal - the proposal establishes no limits on State implementation, and no State, now or in the future, would have to make any change to comply with its terms.

The concept of a 'hunting season' exists independently of any UN resolution mentioning it. Any system currently in use will still be permissable under the terms of this proposal - the proposal establishes no limits on State implementation, and no State, now or in the future, would have to make any change to comply with its terms.
States could already possess nuclear weaponry when Nuclear Armaments passed. No state was compelled to possess nuclear armaments by it, and as such did not have to change their policies to come into compliance.

States could already possess nuclear weaponry when Nuclear Armaments passed. No state was compelled to possess nuclear armaments by it, and as such did not have to change their policies to come into compliance.
OOC: And would that resolution be legal now? The moderators take a harder line now about resolutions having to do something to justify their category's effect.

OOC: And would that resolution be legal now? The moderators take a harder line now about resolutions having to do something to justify their category's effect.
OOC: It was reviewed by three mods, and deemed legal. The UNSA was legal. There is a queued proposal which 'does nothing'. I'd say it's legal.

OOC: It was reviewed by three mods, and deemed legal. The UNSA was legal. There is a queued proposal which 'does nothing'. I'd say it's legal.
OOC: I guess so. I'm getting really fed up with these 'blocking' resolutions, that do nothing but mean a repeal is needed before a resolution that actually does something can be proposed on the matter.

OOC: I guess so. I'm getting really fed up with these 'blocking' resolutions, that do nothing but mean a repeal is needed before a resolution that actually does something can be proposed on the matter.
OOC: Depends, I guess. I like RiT. I think Nuclear Armaments is vital. I think UNSA is a good idea, not sure about the execution. I agree having a lot of them, or very expansive ones, really would make the game less fun: in the most divisive issues, though, I don't think there's anything wrong with them.

I have some thoughts on this proposal. I don't think we need a blanket UN hunting licence, but I can see some international aspects:

1. Countries have different gun laws.
2. Countries have different laws on what can be shot, how much of it, where, etc.
3. Countries have different laws on meat safety, meat export, ritual preparation, etc.
4. Some animals may be specially preserved or protected.

So, I would favour a proposal which perhaps set up an agency through which hunters could apply for international licences to hunt in countries which agreed to take part, which collected and disseminated information on laws and customs etc., which perhaps helped with international poaching scams, bushmeat, illegal trade, etc.

OOC: Depends, I guess. I like RiT. I think Nuclear Armaments is vital. I think UNSA is a good idea, not sure about the execution. I agree having a lot of them, or very expansive ones, really would make the game less fun: in the most divisive issues, though, I don't think there's anything wrong with them.
I'd prefer the UN adopt a principle of 'whatever is not prohibited is permitted', so that resolutions only specify what States are allowed to do in cases where there might otherwise be ambiguity (PROHIBITS States from doing X, while still permitting States to do Y).

I'd prefer the UN adopt a principle of 'whatever is not prohibited is permitted', so that resolutions only specify what States are allowed to do in cases where there might otherwise be ambiguity (PROHIBITS States from doing X, while still permitting States to do Y).
It already has. Rights & Duties affirms that states have the right to conduct their affairs as they please, subject to international law. There is nothing wrong, however, with a positive reiteration of national rights.

Different cultures handle guns and hunting differently. This is cultural imperialism. We won't stand for this. It is an issue of choice within borders.

The Misbehaving Sultanate of Cluichstan proudly announces that it has decided to open a new hunting season. Nomad-hunting season shall henceforth run from the beginning of the year to the end of the year and shall renew in each successive year. So grab your guns, boys and girls! It's time to shoot some nomads!