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Draft: Repeal Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom

Jey
16-02-2006, 23:26
Ok, after a short deliberation, we think we've come up with a relevant and reasonable reason to repeal this resolution:

The people of Genius have long stood for Scientific freedom. By ensuring that peaceful and responsible scientists can research by their own accord, and in any nation they please, technology will move forward, and trade will increase.


Presented to the Assembly of the United Nations on twenty-second day of November in the year two thousand and two, Common Era. By the representative and leader of Genius:

Chris Meyers

The Aboolot

Protector of Genius

Defender of Freedom

Friend of the Free Realms


The United Nations,

COMMENDING Resolution #2 for its intent to bring forth increased freedoms,

CONSIDERING that simply stating a country’s agreement with regard to Scientific Freedom, as seen in this resolution, does not require anything of UN states, nor does it urge UN states to bring forth initiatives to promote Scientific Freedom,

DEEMING Resolution #2 as a meaningless resolution for its inability to provide any laws or initiatives to preserve its intended freedom,

REITERATING the decision set forth by Resolution #144: Repeal “Gay Rights”, in “that it is in the interests of the United Nations to streamline and strike out superfluous and ineffective legislation”,

REPEALS Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom.
Fonzoland
16-02-2006, 23:43
Hey! Why do you quote Kenny and not me? I had statements in that direction in Repeal Save the Forests... ;)

Having said that, I am afraid I will now use a statement I hate:

I want to see a replacement first.

Also, a Repeal has arguments, not decisions.
Jey
16-02-2006, 23:45
I want to see a replacement first.


But in there lies the problem--there is nothing to replace. This proposal doesn't reach its goal. There is no "Scientific Freedom".
Fonzoland
16-02-2006, 23:52
But in there lies the problem--there is nothing to replace. This proposal doesn't reach its goal. There is no "Scientific Freedom".

I agree that scientific freedom is not legislated adequately. I hope you will agree that scientific freedom is a matter of international concern, since scientific knowledge is crucial for development, and huge spillovers permit positive effects worldwide. It is a matter that should be handled adequately by this body.
Ceorana
16-02-2006, 23:54
I have the same opposition that I had to Repeal "Gay Rights": why? The resolution does nothing, so there's nothing to contradict, so there's no need to repeal in order to add better legislation.
REITERATING the decision set forth by Resolution #144: Repeal “Gay Rights”, in “that it is in the interests of the United Nations to streamline and strike out superfluous and ineffective legislation”
We disagreed with that statement then, and we disagree now.
[NS]Bazalonia
17-02-2006, 01:25
While perusing a previous attempt at repealing resolution #2... I had decided to write a replacement proposal, the replacement had under-gone some revisions in the thread and the following link is what it ended up being...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469193

N.B. Clear the clutter... even a resolution like #2 should be cleared before submitting it's replacement
Menchekia
17-02-2006, 10:09
Yes, and there still is an attempt to repeal #2 going.... :-)
Kiroth
17-02-2006, 10:30
I support a repeal, the legislation is simply to vague and overbroad to a point that it has not carefully tailored definitions nor is there any explanation as to what a scientific freedom is so it can be every and anything.


In the new proposal I suggest that the definition of undue restrictions be firmly established.
Ecopoeia
17-02-2006, 13:28
A few tweaks (in bold) to one clause:

DEEMING Resolution #2 to be meaningless resolution given its inability to establish any laws or initiatives to preserve its intended freedom,
_____________________________________________

I'm not sure the 'RE-ITERATING' clause is necessary but it's no deal-breaker.

Lata Chakrabarti
Speaker to the UN
Jey
17-02-2006, 22:19
The United Nations,

COMMENDING Resolution #2 for its intent to bring forth increased freedoms,

CONSIDERING that simply stating a country’s agreement with regard to Scientific Freedom, as seen in this resolution, does not require anything of UN states, nor does it urge UN states to bring forth initiatives to promote Scientific Freedom,

ALSO CONSIDERING that Resolution #2 lacks any clear definition or explanation as to what constitutes scientific freedom, nor does it provide any clear framework to bring about its cause,

DEEMING Resolution #2 to be meaningless resolution for its vagueness and its inability to establish any laws or initiatives to preserve its intended freedom,

REPEALS Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom.

I decided to add a clause similar to what Kiroth said for its probably how most feel about the resolution.

Also, removed the REITERATING clause. I agree it doesn't have a need there.

Any further comments? :)
Bahgum
18-02-2006, 12:05
Scientific freedom? Do we really want to let the bearded, be-sandled, white coated hordes escape from the drudgery of their lab benches and loose on society? What kind of example are we setting he
Ecopoeia
18-02-2006, 23:06
OOC: Sorry, I rushed my suggested amendment - it doesn't make sense!

I meant the following:

DEEMING Resolution #2 to be meaningless given its inability to establish any laws or initiatives to preserve its intended freedom,
Jey
18-02-2006, 23:26
The United Nations,

COMMENDING Resolution #2 for its intent to bring forth increased freedoms,

CONSIDERING that simply stating the opinion of a country with regard to Scientific Freedom, as seen in this resolution, does not require anything of UN states, nor does it urge UN states to bring forth initiatives to promote Scientific Freedom,

ALSO CONSIDERING that Resolution #2 neither lists a clear definition or explanation as to what constitutes Scientific Freedom, nor does it provide any clear framework to bring about its cause,

DEEMING Resolution #2 to be meaningless resolution for its vagueness and its inability to establish any laws or initiatives to preserve its intended freedom,

REPEALS Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom..
United Briton
18-02-2006, 23:31
Not another repeal....-_-
Cluichstan
19-02-2006, 00:06
Not another repeal....-_-

Oh, FFS...give it a rest.
Fonzoland
19-02-2006, 04:27
Oh, FFS...give it a rest.

Crazy thought: You could use FFS as a slogan for a certain company... :p
The Most Glorious Hack
19-02-2006, 04:35
Crazy thought: You could use FFS as a slogan for a certain company... :pK-Y?
Fonzoland
19-02-2006, 05:00
K-Y?

Heh. Actually, I was thinking of CPESL.
Cluichstan
19-02-2006, 05:41
Heh. Actually, I was thinking of CPESL.


And you just made Hack's joke even funnier. :D
Jey
20-02-2006, 16:08
newest draft

The General Assembly of the United Nations,

COMMENDING Resolution #2 for its intent to bring forth increased freedoms,

CONSIDERING that simply stating that a country “has long stood for Scientific Freedom”, as seen in this resolution, does not require anything of UN Members, nor does it urge UN Members to bring forth initiatives or commissions to promote Scientific Freedom,

ALSO CONSIDERING that Resolution #2 neither lists a clear definition or explanation as to what constitutes Scientific Freedom, nor does it provide any clear framework or plans to bring about its cause,

CONCERNED that this resolution overlooks the harmful effects of unrestricted Scientific Freedom, which would lead to numerous painful, deadly, unsafe, and unethical scientific practices being forcibly legal in all UN Member nations,

CONCLUDING that Resolution #2 does not meet the desirable standards of UN resolutions for its disregard for potentially harmful and unjustifiable scientific practices and failure to provide any clear structure in bringing about necessary Scientific Freedom,

UNDERSTANDING that the freedom of safe and ethical scientific practices should be protected for the numerous purposes,

REPEALS Resolution #2: Scientific Freedom,

CALLS ON UN Members to create a speedy replacement that meets the ethical and safe intentions of Resolution #2.