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I urge all UN delegates to vote on the new proposal, "Energy Protection Bill" found in the proposal area of the UN. Please help us secure this bill's passage into law.

Please help us secure this bill's passage into law.

Please help us by posting the text of the proposal. Some of us can't be arsed to read it if you can't be arsed to post it.

I'll be the good guy with this one then....

Energy Protection Bill
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Scotts and Lyon

Description: Will allow for members of the United Nations to properly eliminate dependency on fossil fuels that produce pollutants that are released into the atmosphere and cause global warming.

Under this bill the following laws will be put in place:

1. Automobile companies that produce hybrid automobiles that use bio-diesel, which consists of organic-ly grown vegetable extracts, which will also protect that nations agriculture sector. Companies who produce such an automobile which may include electric and hydrogen based platforms will receive incentives.

2. Automobile companies will be required to make all automobiles that use gasoline to be 40 M.P.G. or 64.36 K.P.G. by 2010.

3. All electrical plants will be required to produce energy and electricity by means wind, water, solar, nuclear, or other environmentally friendly power by 2020.

4. Industrial plants will be required to reduce pollution 50% of current pollutant rates by 2010.

Any company violating regulations will be charged financially by that individual country and the United Nations will place sanctions and high tariffs on products or energy on that company if they wish to sell a product to another member state of the United Nations.

No action will be taken on items considered optional.

Approvals: 30 (Scotts and Lyon, Fynacria, Benfinan, PanzerOrta, Brocklandia, Kaetoria, Laurinians, Republic of Freedonia, The Wandering Nomads 2, The Derrak Quadrant, Olloland, Manussa, Randomplaceland, Reiver Deamon, United Action, Alaxsxa1, Richard2008, Nukingtons, Novo Sibirsk, Gaiah, Arendias, Ashohir, Bane Maul, New Hamilton, Zutroy, Edjames, Sephy Worshipers, Notanotherstan, Trajasistan, Desert Storm Iraq)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 93 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Fri Feb 10 2006

Oh, hell no!

SWEET FLAMING A**CRACKERS!!!! Didn't we have to deal with this in the fossil fuels replacement act? The Palentine gives a hearty, No way Jose!

Sen. Horatio Sulla

It is an overall bill for enviornmental protection, not just fossil fuels, but limiting out put of pollutants by huge corporations that plague the health of our world, this is the right path to take!

It is an overall bill for enviornmental protection, not just fossil fuels, but limiting out put of pollutants by huge corporations that plague the health of our world, this is the right path to take!

Yeah, damn those evil corporations... :rolleyes:

"Kilometers per gallon"? Snicker.

Oh, I hope this passes... I laughed so hard after that solar panel thing happened.

3. All electrical plants will be required to produce energy and electricity by means wind, water, solar, nuclear, or other environmentally friendly power by 2020.

It's a bit fast isn't it? I suppose it might be better if you set usage targets, like 40% renewable by 2010, 95% by 2020.

4. Industrial plants will be required to reduce pollution 50% of current pollutant rates by 2010.

Realism dosn't come to mind reading this. Maybe if you met some of these companies halfway, you could get a reachable target, without having to apply a 'one size fits all' policy.

Any company violating regulations will be charged financially by that individual country and the United Nations will place sanctions and high tariffs on products or energy on that company if they wish to sell a product to another member state of the United Nations.

I'm considering the current state of sanity you are in. Sanctions and high tariffs are not exactly industry firendly. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to make the world a healthier place, but don't try damaging our economies on the way, okay?

No action will be taken on items considered optional.

Maybe if you took action on the more polluting optional activities like a small but serious fine you could make a progressive change in the sector.

Nice try. I'd support it if it wasn't too, mmm, radical.

"Kilometers per gallon"? Snicker.

Oh, I hope this passes... I laughed so hard after that solar panel thing happened.
I'm glad someone found it funny.[/sarcasm]

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

OK admitted that was just thrown in there for shits and giggles.

The Kyoto treaty shares similiar guidelines in the real world, too bad Bush decided not to agree to the terms, the faster we cut pollution, the more of a chance global warming does harm the earth faster.

Global Warming :sniper:

Yeah, that evil Bush... :rolleyes:

1) There are many more varieties of alternative fuel vehicles than automobiles. There are also hybrid electric trains and hybrid electric ships. Brazil even has an ethanol powered single engine plane. We are working on producing a hybrid electric train that can run on biodiesel as part of our public transit system in Liberty Arcology. (In the real world these are available, so are hybrid boats). It is better to give incentives to industry to produce these things. Lower taxes in proportion to the amount of pollution reduction. Plug in hybrid electric cars are also superior to regular hybrids-- they can run up to 100 mpg. Make the industry profitable.

2) Try to create the conditions where alternative energy is profitable. That means research incentives to lower cost to market to make it competitive with other forms of energy. Wind energy is profitable. So is ethanol. Also try to create conditions where people can buy large amounts of alternative energy so for example solar cells will bought in quantity creating the incentive for mass production lowering costs. That is what the Commonalitarianism Solar Energy Initiative is about which is being introduced into our assembly. We recently purchased one billion dollars worth of specialized solar energy panels at a reduced cost from Whittier. Buy in bulk to lower production costs. Some large companies will make solar energy profitable within five years... watch closely the technology is coming out, so is the market where they can be mass produced. Saying you must do something gets you nowhere most of the time.

3) You missed a couple forms of alternative energy. We use tidal energy generators in the commonalitarianism extensively, also we have geothermal energy in the Marianis trench near the volcanic vents. Also hydroelectric energy provides a huge amount of the worlds energy.

4) Something which could be done cheaply would be to have a world energy map of where particular alternative energy types are going to be most efficient -- solar in the desert, wind in the plains, tidal in the ocean, hydroelectric on the rivers, geothermal near steam vents, ethanol in the corn belt, so we could get an idea of where certain types of energy are most efficient. This would eliminates mandates you should have solar in Alaska instead of wind power...

5) A better way to do this would be to create an energy diversification and reinvestment bill. The goal would make it mandatory to increase the availability of different kinds of energy to use. Having only oil and uranium in an economy is a mistake. Just like having only wind power. Basically make the technology of all the different kinds of energy available and require more electricity based technology and less liquid fuel based energy technologies. The advantage of running things off electricity instead of liquid fuel is that an electric car for example can get its electrical energy from a wide variety of sources-- wind, coal, gas, nuclear-- and a gasoline car can get it from gas only.

Yeah, that evil Bush... :rolleyes:Heh... silly me, I thought Congress was in charge of approving treaties...

Oops... sorry... wrong forum.

Ahem.

Nothing to see here.

The Kyoto treaty shares similiar guidelines in the real world, too bad Bush decided not to agree to the terms, the faster we cut pollution, the more of a chance global warming does harm the earth faster.

But apparently (according to a recent article in one [serious] British newspaper) the USA has actually come closer to meeting Kyoto's terms than Canada has, although the latter country was a signatory and is often mentioned by "Greens" as a good example... ;)

3) You missed a couple forms of alternative energy. We use tidal energy generators in the commonalitarianism extensively, also we have geothermal energy in the Marianis trench near the volcanic vents. Also hydroelectric energy provides a huge amount of the worlds energy.

Another one: 'Ocean thermal' systems use the temperature difference between the surface waters (in tropical & subtropical regions) & the deeper ones... The concept has been successfully tested in the [RL] West Indies, years ago...

Prior to passing comment on the actual provisions of the proposed resolution, I would like to note that it is the official position of the Compadrian government that since the Fossil Fuel Reduction Act was passed, no further resolutions would be desirable or required in this area of concern. As such, we are sceptical about the necessity of such a resolution to begin with.

Energy Protection Bill
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Scotts and Lyon

Description: Will allow for members of the United Nations to properly eliminate dependency on fossil fuels that produce pollutants that are released into the atmosphere and cause global warming.

Under this bill the following laws will be put in place:

1. Automobile companies that produce hybrid automobiles that use bio-diesel, which consists of organic-ly grown vegetable extracts, which will also protect that nations agriculture sector. Companies who produce such an automobile which may include electric and hydrogen based platforms will receive incentives.

Limiting hybrid automobiles purely to bio-fuels will be inefficient and problematic. Bio-fuels are difficult to produce and require a massive intensive agriculture programme to provide enough raw materials to meet requirements for energy needs. Additionally, the environmental damage from the agricultural programmes required to meet the needs of this clause would cause harm to the areas where agricultural expansion would be necessitated and possibly introduce unwanted chemicals and toxins into the natural cycles of nations.

2. Automobile companies will be required to make all automobiles that use gasoline to be 40 M.P.G. or 64.36 K.P.G. by 2010.

Far too restrictive.

3. All electrical plants will be required to produce energy and electricity by means wind, water, solar, nuclear, or other environmentally friendly power by 2020.

And far too soon, especially with no associated U.N. or other programme to assist smaller, less able nations in making the transtion.

4. Industrial plants will be required to reduce pollution 50% of current pollutant rates by 2010.

Again rigid and inflexible. Our nation is already struggling to meet the targets of the FFRA, so new targets would be unwelcome.

Any company violating regulations will be charged financially by that individual country and the United Nations will place sanctions and high tariffs on products or energy on that company if they wish to sell a product to another member state of the United Nations.

What about provision for appeals and disputes? Would an international judicial body be set up to regulate such judgments and ajudications? Equally, is it really the right or responsibility of the U.N. to charge tariffs purely due to falling behind on environmental protection? Would this not be counter-productive and stymie a nations committment to environmentally friendly policies.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.