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Certain religions believe that they must wear or that it is more desirale to wear certain clothing toincrease or protect their holiness. I don't disagree with this, except when the clothes are threatening, and offensive.
For example, a burkahttp://www.michiganradio.org/images/burka.jpg is threatening in the way that you can only see the eyes. It may be seen as desirable to wear, but when you are faced by a person in a burka, I believe most of us feel a little intimidated.
http://www.wsoctv.com/irresistible/4388079/detail.html# this is another example of how we too are irresponsible. With slogans such as "My god can kick your God's butt" I find that everyone is offended.
As usual I'll wait for the first few posts until I draw up a draft.

Peace y'all,
Optischer.



Please take note constructive criticism is welcome, and UN cards preferably kept to a minimum of 0. Why hav I got a feeling I'm gona get flooded?

so I'll just take the clothing part of my act out.

Well, if you want. I could deal with clothing issues in education if you like. Or it might be better if we both agree on a policy. I think mutual co-operation would be succesful. Don't you?

Well, if you want. I could deal with clothing issues in education if you like. Or it might be better if we both agree on a policy. I think mutual co-operation would be succesful. Don't you?

I may keep it out, because my act is mostly about the interactions between teachers and students rather than between students.

And what if the clotheswear affects teacher student interaction?

And what if the clotheswear affects teacher student interaction?
please provide an example.

Burkas. You can't take them off for PE (PhysEd if you're a yankee (Srory for the bias if you're a democrat)) so the teacher migh order you too. Of course the teacher will get angry. A RL example is that Muslim girl who won the right to wear religous clothin at school. Although the case is under review.

Sated?

Burkas. You can't take them off for PE (PhysEd if you're a yankee (Srory for the bias if you're a democrat)) so the teacher migh order you too. Of course the teacher will get angry. A RL example is that Muslim girl who won the right to wear religous clothin at school. Although the case is under review.

Sated?

You know what? I've never had a problem with any religious clothings. So you are on your own in this. I'll probably vote for it if it was ever proposed.

It's like terrorists who are muslim, (no offence to any and all believers of islam) and wear baggy clothes. They could have a bomb strapped to themselves, and we wouldn't know! Also turbans could hold bombs or illegal substances. Not only that but some religous clotheswear is dangerous if you work with machinery.

It's like terrorists who are muslim, (no offence to any and all believers of islam) and wear baggy clothes. They could have a bomb strapped to themselves, and we wouldn't know! Also turbans could hold bombs or illegal substances. Not only that but some religous clotheswear is dangerous if you work with machinery.

all of the above could be said about non-religious clothing too.

Yes, but that's not what I'm on about. They're supplied an acceptale uniform and the burn innocent people to death, just because some great book says it's a sin. If I was talking about banning hoodies then I'd probably have more support, but sine it's religous I suppose it's too sacred for me too talk or think about!

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/pointinghanddone1nt.jpg

Har, Har Jey. I thought you belonged with smart people. Sure got that one wrong.

Har, Har Jey. I thought you belonged with smart people. Sure got that one wrong.

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/wasteoftime2pl.png :D

Post constructive criticism only please Jey. Resist the urge of those horrible, evil, cluttering stickies, Okay?

Post constructive criticism only please Jey. Resist the urge of those horrible, evil, cluttering stickies, Okay?

No sticky. Its a UN card. A sticky are those topics at the top of the list that have "Sticky:" before them.

On with the constructive criticism: this proposal is unworthy of the UN's consideration, plus it violates Human Rights...even though I doubt anyone would want to wear these things. You cant ban a type of clothing...especially if your premise is you "feel intimidated."

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/chechnya1qq.jpg

What is the obsession with chechnyans.

Please take note constructive criticism is welcome, and UN cards preferably kept to a minimum of 0. Why hav I got a feeling I'm gona get flooded?
Because this contradicts articles #1 and #2 in the Universal Bill of Rights, Res #26. Maybe not enough for deletion, but almost certainly enough to get shot down by the voters:
Article 1 -- All human beings have the right to choose worship any faith, and to change their religious beliefs at any time without punishment on the part of the state.

Article 2 -- All human beings have the right to express themselves through speech and through the media without any interference.

Please take note constructive criticism is welcome, and UN cards preferably kept to a minimum of 0. Why hav I got a feeling I'm gona get flooded?

Because you already did get flooded? And then added this in? Hence the EDIT bar on the bottom of your post.

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As part of this proclamation I have concluded that door to door preachers wear frightening clothing, and neck ties are a religious symbol created by Masons therefore they should be banned. Also I am terrified of men in very tall hats carrying big sticks.

In my country, many religious practitioners worship in the nude. I am CERTAIN that there will be some people out there who will claim that this is frightening to them, but it is a practice we will not give up, no matter what legislation is passed.

Sorry, but this resolution violates our freedom of expression.

Post constructive criticism only
Alright, here's some constructive criticism. Stop trolling. Seems like every time you post a new topic, there's something in there that mods need to check out and stop. I'm gonna take a stab and say that that something is ...


You.


Knock it off, or find another place on the net for your trolling. We're awfully tired of it.

I have something to say Frisbeeteria. It's not me. I thought this was a place for intelligent discussion. Whatever trolling is, (I've got an idea), I'm pretty sure I'm not doing it. If it has an optischer brand on it, people ignore it. I don't think I'M doing anything to cause it.

Can the mods please ban his ass again? This time permanently?

I have something to say Frisbeeteria. It's not me. I thought this was a place for intelligent discussion. Whatever trolling is, (I've got an idea), I'm pretty sure I'm not doing it. If it has an optischer brand on it, people ignore it. I don't think I'M doing anything to cause it.

When being accused of trolling (by a mod), I would definately not suggest making a counter-argument (to a mod).

I have something to say Frisbeeteria. It's not me. I thought this was a place for intelligent discussion. Whatever trolling is, (I've got an idea), I'm pretty sure I'm not doing it. If it has an optischer brand on it, people ignore it. I don't think I'M doing anything to cause it.

Damn right you have an idea of what trolling is. You are the master troll, and you just keep on going. And yes, people should be ignoring you (many do), but the more hot blooded of us can't resist the urge to say...

Please shut up and play elsewhere.

Listen, I have had enough. People seem to think they can push me around anywhere I go. I try to explain my point of view and then wham, some MR High and Mighty comes in ripping everything to pieces.

:(

Listen, I have had enough. People seem to think they can push me around anywhere I go. I try to explain my point of view and then wham, some MR High and Mighty comes in ripping everything to pieces.

:(

That should tell you something, now, shouldn't it?

Yes. That everyone has a personal vendetta against me.

Yes. That everyone has a personal vendetta against me.

[Freudian hat]And can you tell me why everyone, including the mods and other pleasant chaps, has a problem with you?[/Freudian hat]

Listen, I have had enough. People seem to think they can push me around anywhere I go. I try to explain my point of view and then wham, some MR High and Mighty comes in ripping everything to pieces.

:(

Well...your open approval of slavery probably won't win you many friends. Radical views do tend to separate oneself from the masses.

And what if the clotheswear affects teacher student interaction?


What if they wore nothing then would you be happy? I see nothing wrong with wearing an item of clothing related or not to a religious belief that keeps one from going to some dark place if you don't. If a rule is set up that establishes a say work uniform; then anyone wanting to work must comply with said rule or you don't hire them.

Thus if your uniform comforms to some safety standards but is not comforming to say their religious wear then they have a choice; wear the uniform or find a job some place they can wear what they might want. It would be the same thing if they refused to work on say Sunday and you ran on that day and all were required to work a Sunday shift. If they want the job they comform to the requirements of the job or find one that fits their wants. People have a choice to follow the laws and rules or break them and pay for it. Where in a society based on a religion if they have a dress code then that is how things are there. If you have problems with their dress code stay away from them and the areas they keep these in.

Today in RL American Teens wear baggy clothing and hide guns, knives, and could even hide bombs in them. So what is so different if they wear this as a religious item or just wear those baggy cloths. We must deal with those who carry guns, knives, and bombs for their actions in having these items not what they wear while they carry them. Thus deal with that not how folks dress.