NationStates Jolt Archive

Separation of Religion and Public School Act

Category: Freedom of Ideas
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Southeast Antarctica

Religion courses cannot be a course required to graduate.
Teachers are not allowed to bring up any talk of religion under any circumstance. But is allowed a brief aknowledgement of other opinions if confronted by a student.
No Religious clothing is allowed in school
School must preach the theory that no one religion is superior than another.



thoughts?

Are you on about allowing peple to worship whatever religion they choose or just proposing seperate religion schools? I'm confused. My brain hurts.

Are you on about allowing peple to worship whatever religion they choose or just proposing seperate religion schools? I'm confused. My brain hurts.

I'll edit my post. Just separation of religion to school.

Oh definitely, it works. Optischer has no state religion and we abhor it, so seperating inaccurate ideologies from our children is valuable. We must eradicate al religions since they are becoming an unnecessary fasdhion tool. Eradicate all believers!

that's one simple act. Do I need to write it or will someone else do the favor?

You can write a draft, It's better if you do it yourself though. They never seem popular if someone else has doneit. Also propose it if yo think it's got enough support. And don't forget to be so extreme you're more extreme then Mr. Extreme the most Extreme man on the planet of Extreme in the Extreme universe. Have no boundaries.

thoughts on my draft? Addition, substraction?

The complete eradication of teaching religious education. The deletion of ethics containing religious acceptance. The separation of all unblievers/believers (if you have no state religion), The banning of wearing all religious clothes when fraternizing with members of other religions, the recognisation of the superior religion, obedience to the country is more important than to faith, the eradication of all religious extremists not from the superior faith, do you want me to continue...?

I'm bored so I'll do a basic amendment for you. Work on the skeleton if you want.

Draft: Religious seperation of schools

Believing that one religion or no religion is superior to any other

Acknowledging that believing in no religion is superior to all reigions except the superior one

Defining superior as the most desired by the government

Requesting that all religions follow basic guidelines, coming soon

Demandinghat religous clothes are unacceptable to society and should be banned

Work on this if you want, I've just had an idea.

Separation of Religion and Public School Act

Category: Freedom of Ideas
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Southeast Antarctica

Religion courses cannot be a required course for graduation in any circumstances.
There cannot be AP or Honor Religion classes.
A school can offer a maximum of 1 religion courses per 1000 children enrolled.
Teacher should not bring up religion in any science classes under any circumstances. Religion can only be discussed if brought up by a student, and in that case, only 20 minutes per week, once per student per semester is allowed.


thoughts?

I have two criticisms, which can't really be solved by addition or deletion.

1) This really seems to micromanage. Telling nations how much time can be spent on student questions about religion in a given week or semester is a little...extreme. And it has radically different effects for a school of ten students that meets for 10 hours a day and a school of thousands which meets for one hour a day. Allowing that much time could shut the second school down, while it wouldn't allow the first school to even begin studying it.

2) Many of the nations in NS are theocratic, and this seems to be saying that theocratic nations can't teach their own religion in their own schools. Also, some nations may have an extensive religious education system, and this would put a stop to that. This would create quite a hardship on those nations, as they must now work those students into their public (or secular private) education system.

Just a few thoughts.

I have two criticisms, which can't really be solved by addition or deletion.

1) This really seems to micromanage. Telling nations how much time can be spent on student questions about religion in a given week or semester is a little...extreme. And it has radically different effects for a school of ten students that meets for 10 hours a day and a school of thousands which meets for one hour a day. Allowing that much time could shut the second school down, while it wouldn't allow the first school to even begin studying it.

2) Many of the nations in NS are theocratic, and this seems to be saying that theocratic nations can't teach their own religion in their own schools. Also, some nations may have an extensive religious education system, and this would put a stop to that. This would create quite a hardship on those nations, as they must now work those students into their public (or secular private) education system.

Just a few thoughts.


a commy having a problem with an atheist act?

just kidding man.

1)I addressed the micromanage problem, it's a lot broader now
2)In those theocratic nations, their family, their neighbor and their community can(and will) educate kids about religions. I'm just trying to give kids an environment in school where everything they learn can be as factual as possible.

If the theocratic nations followed my ideal of a superior religion, thn there is a solution to your problem. Consider it solved.

If the theocratic nations followed my ideal of a superior religion, thn there is a solution to your problem. Consider it solved.
can you finalize my draft?

Explain what you mean by finalize. Please?

Explain what you mean by finalize. Please?

In your opinion, do I still need to add/edit something before propose it as a draft?

You could post it and subject it to the murderous hordes who will either let you live... or else. I think that options better than going in for a straight proposal. If you think somthings missing, experiment.

Also, do you wish to have one religion schools, or just ban religious beliefs in school?

I would suggest not submitting this.

You could post it and subject it to the murderous hordes who will either let you live... or else. I think that options better than going in for a straight proposal. If you think somthings missing, experiment.

Also, do you wish to have one religion schools, or just ban religious beliefs in school?
I did say public school. Any religious school outside the government's school is their own business.

What if they were contradicting you're teachings? You could be unknowingly breeding a army of hatred. Why not extend it to all schools?

Cluichstan, why should Southeast Atartica not submit this, far as I can see, legal proposal?

What if they were contradicting you're teachings? You could be unknowingly breeding a army of hatred. Why not extend it to all schools?

It really would be an limitation on human rights if I goes there.

Go there, find a loophole, live life to the max.

Cluichstan, why should Southeast Atartica not submit this, far as I can see, legal proposal?

Because it is not anywhere near worthy of the UN's consideration?

I believe the question was aimed at cluichstan. Oh, and do you know why we get labels under our names? How am I 'sometimes deadly'? And what's the meaning of 'Ms. Pacman Lover'?

Because it is not anywhere near worthy of the UN's consideration?

Well, that, too.

Isn't it? I think the UN could decide that by itself.

Isn't it? I think the UN could decide that by itself.

http://test256.free.fr/UN%20Cards/f71056e5.jpg

geez jay and Cluichstan, do you know how to do anything other than post UN Cards to boost your post counts?

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geez jay and Cluichstan, do you know how to do anything other than post UN Cards to boost your post counts?

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Obviously I would ge bannd for spamming if I did that, which I'm not. So, to make sure you don't get into trouble, stop the spamming or I'll go and tell. Okay?

Obviously I would ge bannd for spamming if I did that, which I'm not. So, to make sure you don't get into trouble, stop the spamming or I'll go and tell. Okay?

Ah, the lazyness. Were I more industrious, I would be fervently creating a card with the text:

"Please go and tell"

Just how do you get access to the un cards? It's eluded me for so long, soon I will have the power of cards in my hand.

Just how do you get access to the un cards? It's eluded me for so long, soon I will have the power of cards in my hand.

Shh! Don't tell him! Just imagine the repurcussions! :eek:

Ssssh don't tell him:eek: He'll use pointless but hilarious cards at me:eek: Oh my:eek: :eek: :eek:

Separation of Religion and Public School Act

Category: Freedom of Ideas
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Southeast Antarctica

Religion courses cannot be a course required to graduate.
Teachers are not allowed to bring up any talk of religion under any circumstance. But is allowed a brief aknowledgement of other opinions if confronted by a student.
No Religious clothing is allowed in school
School must preach the theory that no one religion is superior than another.



thoughts?

I see one or two problems with this.

Teachers, I feel, should be allowed to bring up talk of religion, as long as they do not specifically endorse said opinion as an 'official' one. It would be against freedom of speech to not let a teacher claim whatever religion he wished to believe.

Religious clothing being unallowed in school is also against freedom of expression, and therefore I would be against this clause.

If schools are to not discuss religion or have courses on it, how would they be able to state that one religion is not 'better' than another? What about people who might believe in a religion that says it is ok to look down upon people based off their skin color? Or heritage? Certainly these religions are not 'better' than tolerant ones.

Obviously I would ge bannd for spamming if I did that, which I'm not. So, to make sure you don't get into trouble, stop the spamming or I'll go and tell. Okay?

I laughed very hard for a good five minutes at this.

Same here....

I believe the question was aimed at cluichstan. Oh, and do you know why we get labels under our names? How am I 'sometimes deadly'? And what's the meaning of 'Ms. Pacman Lover'?


It depends on your number of posts so far.