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Repeal U.N Resolution #28: Free Education

Union Canada
04-02-2006, 05:10
UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #28

Free education
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: NASTIC 2

Description: To give every person under the age of 18 the right to a free education

Votes For: 11,276
Votes Against: 3,264

Implemented: Tue Aug 19 2003

Repeal UN Resolution 28: Free Education

UN resolution #28 is commendable because it provides the chance for free education to be brought to all students who want to get an education.

However, it should be repealed because it is to broad in its one line statement that all students under 18 should have free education. There should be another resolution created to fine-tune this resolution to ensure that their can be no loop holes or wiggle room for nations to squeeze by.

Why this resolution should be repealed is that:

(1) Some people in UN nations go to work before the age of 18, and can't get an education

(2) How free an education is the author of this resolution is trying to receive, free primary, secondary or post-secondary education is he trying to get?

(3) Who is going to fund it?

(4) And finally, what about people who want to gain an education past 18 years old.
Gruenberg
04-02-2006, 05:13
I think some of your points are good, and some less so. The ones I would concentrate on:
1. No standards are set by the proposal.
2. Really, who is going to pay for it? Not all states have - or can afford to have - free public education.

I would leave out 'children have to work', because they still can, and the issue of higher education.
Ceorana
04-02-2006, 05:14
(1) Some people in UN nations go to work before the age of 18, and can't get an education
They have a right to a free education, not a duty. If they want to work before the age of 18, they decide not to excercise their right. Of course, this is assuming your nation does not have compulsory education.

(2) How free an education is the author of this resolution is trying to receive, free primary, secondary or post-secondary education is he trying to get?
Whatever individual nations decide.

(3) Who is going to fund it?

It's the nation's responsibility to get funding in order to comply, I think.

(4) And finally, what about people who want to gain an education past 18 years old.
This resolution does not affect them either way.
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 05:18
1. No standards are set by the proposal.
2. Really, who is going to pay for it? Not all states have - or can afford to have - free public education.

Repeal UN Resolution 28: Free Education

UN resolution #28 is commendable because it provides the chance for free education to be brought to all students who want to get an education.

However, it should be repealed because it is to broad in its one line statement that all students under 18 should have free education. There should be another resolution created to fine-tune this resolution to ensure that their can be no loop holes or wiggle room for nations to squeeze by.

Why this resolution should be repealed is that:

(1) There are no standards set out by this resolution for individual UN nations.
(1a) For example there are no standards to what kind of education these students need to receive, even if they are inadequate to get an adequate education

(2) Some nations are not able because of their economic situation to pay for Free Education for people below 18. This resolution doesn't make mention to that.

(3) How free an education is the author of this resolution is trying to receive, free primary, secondary or post-secondary education is he trying to get?
Gruenberg
04-02-2006, 05:25
The final point still isn't really relevant: Free Education is only dealing with under-18 education. That's fine - the way it tries to do it is not. I would exclude that point, and concentrate more on the way it fails to account for any logistical difficulties.
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 05:28
I have adjusted it.
Kiften
04-02-2006, 05:32
I think the problem with it is it doesnt' say how GOOD the education has to be. That's the biggest problem with the current resolution.

What good is a 'free' education if it consists of incomplete, incorrect, or immoral teachings?
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 05:40
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Repeal UN Resolution 28: Free Education

UN resolution #28 is commendable because it provides the chance for free education to be brought to all students who want to get an education.

However, it should be repealed because it is to broad in its one line statement that all students under 18 should have free education. There should be another resolution created to fine-tune this resolution to ensure that their can be no loop holes or wiggle room for nations to squeeze by.

Why this resolution should be repealed is that:

(1) There are no standards set out by this resolution for individual UN nations.
(1a) For example there are no standards to what kind of education these students need to receive, even if they are inadequate to get an adequate education

(2) Some nations are not able because of their economic situation to pay for Free Education for people below 18. This resolution doesn't make mention to that.

(3) How free an education is the author of this resolution is trying to receive, free primary, secondary or post-secondary education is he trying to get?
Rhoanon
04-02-2006, 05:43
". . . incorrect, or immoral teachings?"

The People of the Free States of Rhoanon are of the opinion that these terms depend heavily on an individual Nation's constituent belief system(s). The UN should not decide for the world what is immoral, especially when, such as in this situation, no human rights abuses are committed.
Ceorana
04-02-2006, 05:44
(3) How free an education is the author of this resolution is trying to receive, free primary, secondary or post-secondary education is he trying to get?
I don't like questions in resolutions. How about:

The resolution is not clear on the level of education that must be granted.
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 05:48
Repeal UN Resolution 28: Free Education

UN resolution #28 is commendable because it provides the chance for free education to be brought to all students who want to get an education.

However, it should be repealed because it is to broad in its one line statement that all students under 18 should have free education. There should be another resolution created to fine-tune this resolution to ensure that their can be no loop holes or wiggle room for nations to squeeze by.

Why this resolution should be repealed is that:

(1) There are no standards set out by this resolution for individual UN nations.
(1a) For example there are no standards to what kind of education these students need to receive, even if they are inadequate to get an adequate education

(2) Some nations are not able because of their economic situation to pay for Free Education for people below 18. This resolution doesn't make mention to that.

(3) The resolution is unclear about which level of education should be provided for free under the age of 18.
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 06:22
So is this acceptable?
Gruenberg
04-02-2006, 06:27
Yes, it looks ok.
Ceorana
04-02-2006, 06:27
So is this acceptable?
Not in my opinion.

1. It's still an essay and a list. The format needs work. Take a look at some recent passed resolutions.

2. I don't like it in the first place, as I believe the loose resolution lets nations use their inherent rights to accomplish things.

3. repealed because it is to broad You mean "too broad".
St Edmund
04-02-2006, 11:32
There's also the problem that the populations of some UN member-nations include nonhuman sapients from species with differing natural lifespans, so that setting the threshhold at 18 years wasn't really appropriate in all cases...
Union Canada
04-02-2006, 14:59
Repeal UN Resolution 28: Free Education

UN resolution #28 is commendable because it provides the chance for free education to be brought to all students who want to get an education.

However, it should be repealed because it is too broad in its one line statement that all students under 18 should have free education. There should be another resolution created to ensure that there are standards and quidelines to be followed by U.N nations but still allow them to do 'Free Education' through there own systems, but to ensure that there are no loop holes or wiggle room for nations to squeeze by, so they can't provide Free Education if a new resolution is created.

Why this resolution should be repealed is that:

(1) There are no standards set out by this resolution for individual UN nations.
(1a) For example there are no standards to what kind of education these students need to receive, even if they are inadequate to get an adequate education

(2) Some nations are not able because of their economic situation to pay for Free Education for people below 18. This resolution doesn't make mention to that.

(3) The resolution is unclear about which level of education should be provided for free under the age of 18.

(4) Some United Nations nations have non-human species that may not have the same lifespan as a human. And Free Education resolution makes no mention of any kind of free education for these species.
Flibbleites
04-02-2006, 17:42
(1) There are no standards set out by this resolution for individual UN nations.
(1a) For example there are no standards to what kind of education these students need to receive, even if they are inadequate to get an adequate education.
And how would you come up with standards that would apply for 30,000+ nations with technology levels ranging from stone age to far future to magic? It's better to leave the standards up to the individual nations to decide.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
The Most Glorious Hack
04-02-2006, 22:17
Technically, you shouldn't have a (1a) without at least a (1b).
Union Canada
05-02-2006, 03:14
I feel personally that guidelines or standards should be made for Free Education. It is faulty in that way.
Union Canada
05-02-2006, 03:31
Any suggestions?

Is the repeal resolution fine.
Saorse
05-02-2006, 03:59
I totally feel this repeal is something you can run with. :)
Union Canada
05-02-2006, 04:11
Thank you.
Grand Maritoll
05-02-2006, 04:40
The 4th clause is confusing... is it suggesting that we educate wildlife?
Begoned
05-02-2006, 04:59
The 4th clause is confusing... is it suggesting that we educate wildlife?

Of course. Squirrels and such deserve as good education as the rest of us.
Grand Maritoll
05-02-2006, 05:02
Of course. Squirrels and such deserve as good education as the rest of us.

Ok, just making sure I understand properly :p
Flibbleites
05-02-2006, 06:32
I feel personally that guidelines or standards should be made for Free Education. It is faulty in that way.
And I disagree with you. When the technology levels of the nations can range from nations that are still in the stone age all the way to ones in the far future, there is no way to be able to word a proposal that would have suitable requirements for all the nations.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
Union Canada
05-02-2006, 14:27
Article 4 has to do with nations that have sapient species that deserve education but are not brought to attention by this resolution.

I hope people like the understanding of this repeal because I believe I have brought out points that make it necessary to repeal Resolution #28 and have it replaced by a new one.