NationStates Jolt Archive


Lotsa Repeals

Funky Evil
25-01-2006, 00:09
I'm sure all of you have noticed the huge trend of repeals currently happening.

4 of the last 6 resolutions passed have been repeals

the current proposal is a repeal, and will easily pass

3 of the 4 proposals that have reacheda quorum are repeals

Any comments or reasoning?
Gruenberg
25-01-2006, 00:13
I'm sure all of you have noticed the huge trend of repeals currently happening.

4 of the last 6 resolutions passed have been repeals

the current proposal is a repeal, and will easily pass

3 of the 4 proposals that have reacheda quorum are repeals

Any comments or reasoning?
By the time we vote on Repeal "Abortion Rights", 8 of the last 11 proposals to reach quorum will have been repeals.

Of those 8, I've authored or co-authored 3, and campaigned for a further 3, so I suppose I'm as well placed as any to say:

There is no reasoning. It just happened that we got a bottleneck of repeals. Not an evil plan, not a right-wing conspiracy, not even a disturbing trend. I - and many others - support well-written proposals, be they new laws or repeals. It just so happens of late people have been concentrating on repeals. By March, I'd bet people will be saying "where are all the repeals?"
Jey
25-01-2006, 01:49
By March, I'd bet people will be saying "where are all the repeals?"

You will probably be proven correct--by march, all the bad resolutions will have been repealed.
Gruenberg
25-01-2006, 01:50
You will probably be proven correct--by march, all the bad resolutions will have been repealed.
There are about 100 bad resolutions...
Forgottenlands
25-01-2006, 02:17
Known fact. We've discussed it a few times already - and then a few more repeals came down the tube after we finished discussing it. As Gruen said, there's no real reason or logic behind it. Various projects are again getting under way so we've got a few resolutions down the tube over the next month or so from the regulars - PC might rehash a recently deleted one, Mikivity I believe has one coming up and LAE just started on his first project of the new year so the top 3 proposal writers (in terms of number written) have some stuff coming up. Other proposal collection points are starting to show a lot more proposals. It just happened and we're coming up on a surge of proposals now.
[NS]The-Republic
25-01-2006, 03:20
4 out of 6 and 3 out of 4?

I really don't think these figures constitute a "trend." In each case, one less repeal would create an even split. A trend of repeals? I think not, regardless of how much I would enjoy seeing one.
Funky Evil
25-01-2006, 03:31
Not an evil plan, not a right-wing conspiracy, not even a disturbing trend.

oh, i knew it wasn't a right-wing conspiracy- i'd be in on that.
Cluichstan
25-01-2006, 05:32
You will probably be proven correct--by march, all the bad resolutions will have been repealed.

Nah, we'll be busy repealing bad resolutions until November, at least. ;)
Forgottenlands
25-01-2006, 05:41
The-Republic']4 out of 6 and 3 out of 4?

I really don't think these figures constitute a "trend." In each case, one less repeal would create an even split. A trend of repeals? I think not, regardless of how much I would enjoy seeing one.

4/6 and 4/5 (8/11). It would take 5 straight non-repeals to balance the trend - and this is since Sheknu withdrew his Chem Weapons Ban.
Gruenberg
25-01-2006, 05:43
4/6 and 4/5 (8/11). It would take 5 straight non-repeals to balance the trend - and this is since Sheknu withdrew his Chem Weapons Ban.
(Actually, just to complicate things, that's not quite accurate. The UN Timeline goes on 'date of decision'. The Ban was deleted before Repeal RtD passed, but it was queued after it. So it should have been Repeal RtD, then CWB, then Repeal "Save the forests of the World". So I guess 8/12.)
Krankor
25-01-2006, 15:38
We of Krankor believe in repealing Scientific Freedom. We don't think scientists should be allowed to run around free. In fact we have several of them imprisoned on our planet. If they were free they would just run around without dignity like the Ritz Brothers.
Cluichstan
25-01-2006, 16:18
We of Krankor believe in repealing Scientific Freedom. We don't think scientists should be allowed to run around free. In fact we have several of them imprisoned on our planet. If they were free they would just run around without dignity like the Ritz Brothers.

Hooray...another troll... :rolleyes:
Palentine UN Office
25-01-2006, 21:27
I'm sure all of you have noticed the huge trend of repeals currently happening.

4 of the last 6 resolutions passed have been repeals

the current proposal is a repeal, and will easily pass

3 of the 4 proposals that have reacheda quorum are repeals

Any comments or reasoning?

There are a lot of bad laws to be gotten rid of, mate. Just that simple. No evil conspiricy, no matter what some people may say.:)
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla
Palentine UN Office
25-01-2006, 21:31
Nah, we'll be busy repealing bad resolutions until November, at least. ;)

AHHH, jocularity! I guess thats why my government has so much respect for the esteemed Sheik. Realistically you're probally right though.
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla
Flibbleites
26-01-2006, 05:54
Realistically you're probally right though.
Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla
Especially as there will probably be new bad resolutions passed while we're trying to repeal the ones we have now.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
Palentine UN Office
26-01-2006, 19:49
Especially as there will probably be new bad resolutions passed while we're trying to repeal the ones we have now.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

You're depressing me. I'm gonna need some 101 proof cheer-me-up soon.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla
St Edmund
26-01-2006, 19:54
You're depressing me. I'm gonna need some 101 proof cheer-me-up soon.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla


The government of St Edmund has just sent Senator Sulla a case of our 'Old St Edmund Navy' 105%-proof rum.
Palentine UN Office
26-01-2006, 20:02
The government of St Edmund has just sent Senator Sulla a case of our 'Old St Edmund Navy' 105%-proof rum.

*a man wearing a stetson and a Funk-U shirt sits in the Ambassador's chair.*
Sen. Sulla has asked me, his deputy to send his thanks pardner. He would do it himself, but he said he was planning some "consultations". Apparently it involves Rum and women of questionable(and negotiable) morals.
Happy Trails,
Texas Jack Funk
Deputy Ambassador
Palentine UN office
Flibbleites
27-01-2006, 06:12
You're depressing me. I'm gonna need some 101 proof cheer-me-up soon.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla
What can I say, I'm a realist. Besides, why do you think I haven't left the Stranger's Bar for several months.:)

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
Palentine UN Office
28-01-2006, 03:16
What can I say, I'm a realist. Besides, why do you think I haven't left the Stranger's Bar for several months.:)

Bob Flibble
UN Representative


I'd probally be there too, but they don't serve Iron City, or Rolling Rock, good Sir.:(
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla
Cluichstan
28-01-2006, 04:49
I'd probally be there too, but they don't serve Iron City, or Rolling Rock, good Sir.:(
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla

The Cluichstani office has its own bar, and it has Rock on tap. Join us anytime.
Hou Mian
28-01-2006, 16:13
I'd probally be there too, but they don't serve Iron City, or Rolling Rock, good Sir.:(
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla

I was under the assumption that they had every brand and type of alcohol imaginable there. Can't the gnomes do something as simple as that? Especially with all the future tech to go around...
St Edmund
28-01-2006, 17:16
What about the NSO saloon?
Palentine UN Office
28-01-2006, 19:10
What about the NSO saloon?

We've got one??? YeeHaw! *spastic polka* I guess Texas Jack will have to fill in for me again. *speaks to secretary* "Maureen, give a ring to the two fine delegates from the Protectorate of the Crazed Catgirls. I think more consultations are needed."
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla
Palentine UN Office
28-01-2006, 19:13
I was under the assumption that they had every brand and type of alcohol imaginable there. Can't the gnomes do something as simple as that? Especially with all the future tech to go around...

I dunno, sumptun about they can't unnerstan Pittsburghese an'at. Yunz would think dey would make an effort an'at. Speccially for some cold Arn an'at.
[NS:::]Kiador
28-01-2006, 20:27
Here's the problem, though: If the repeals keep happening, we won't have any laws left. Think about it. Nothing is being replaced, just taken out. This is totally unconstructive, and probably represents the further decline of NS civilization as we know it.
Palentine UN Office
28-01-2006, 20:54
Kiador']Here's the problem, though: If the repeals keep happening, we won't have any laws left. Think about it. Nothing is being replaced, just taken out. This is totally unconstructive, and probably represents the further decline of NS civilization as we know it.

THe government that governs best, governs least. All of us good conservatives (and libertarians) know that. Besides your fears are groundless. There are plenty of laws left. Know matter how much I would like to repeal 'en all an start over, realistically I can't beacause 1) as 'Don' Flibble pointed out, they make more laws quicker than we can repeal them, and 2) there are some laws the fluffies and green weenies won't let us, no matter how toothless and useless they are. Think of this as an end of the year housecleaning, we're doing the hard work cleaning so y'all can legislate us to death.:p Its just pure coincidence that a bunch of repeals are in queue right now. Really no evil conservative conspiricy,pard. Here, relax, and have a popsicle.*Texas Jack Funk hands delegate a Fine Yeldan Orange Popsicle(TM) from the small freezer in the palentine delegation*

Happy Trails,
Texas Jack Funk
Deputy Un Ambassador
2-time Palentine heavywight Wrestling Champion
and King of the Deathmatch
Cluichstan
28-01-2006, 22:46
Wait...no evil conspiracy? I'm disappointed.
Flibbleites
29-01-2006, 06:17
And don't forget, Mr. Funk, the resolutions that were written by NSO members that we're obviously not going to try to repeal.

Bob Flibble
NSO Mafia Don
UN Representative
Beltroze
29-01-2006, 07:36
I think it's really stupid that all these repeals are coming up, and that they're all being approved...

I fail to see how ALL of them could be "bad laws"... but whatever...
The Most Glorious Hack
29-01-2006, 08:35
I dunno... try reading the original Resolutions and see that they are bad law?
Cluichstan
29-01-2006, 14:51
And perhaps reading the explanations in the text of the repeals.
Tyndarus
30-01-2006, 07:41
And perhaps realising that some of those laws were one line long -___-