NationStates Jolt Archive

I realize there have been many of these before, but I believe what i propose is possibly more acceptable than previous proposals:

Recreational Marijuana Act

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use


Decision: Promote


Proposed by: Lexxam

Description: This proposal has been designed to promote the use of Marijuana as a recreational drug. Due to recent studies that indicate Marijuana has more minor long-term effects than Alcohol or Tobacco, The Borderland of Lexxam believe it is time for the people of the UN to have a reality check.

It is believed that legalizing Marijuana would not only lead to an increase in economic activities for those countries with the proper climate to grow it, but also to a decrease in crime, due to the lack of need for illegal "drug deals". This is without mentioning that Marijuana has been proven to help many medical patients who are in extreme pain, and may even be a good replacement for more addicting drugs such as morphine.

This proposal, if passed, will:

1) URGE UN nations to legalize marijuana for not only medical use, but recreational use

2) REQUIRE UN nations that choose to legalize marijuana to set a legal age of at least 15 for use of marijuana, exempting medical reasons.

3) LIMIT in UN nations that choose to legalize, the amount a non-comercial grower can sell to .1% of the nations total output of Marijuana

I smoke it in real life. Who cares, right? But I also believe that this should be left to each nation to decide upon. It doesn't have a place in the UN. What I wish some real life countries like the USA would do is legalize hemp, for it's profitable market potential. Hemp is illegal in the USA because it belongs to the cannibis family. Nevermind there is so little THC in hemp that you'd get a headache before you got stoned, the USA has labelled it illegal.

But back to my point, I don't think the UN should force nations to legalize or criminalize marijuana or any other drug. I don't even think medicinal drugs should be mandated for use, organically derived or synthetically.

While i realize that marijuana use may be a matter of great national importance to you, i do believe that the United Nations has more important things to do than be bogged down with one marijuana legalization proposal after another.

There are three, that i counted, in queue, and that, my friends, is ridiculous. Leave such matters to each individual nation. And stop wasting my time.

Dr. Bertrand du Loque
National Director of Political Domain; UN Representative; Master of Ceremonies: Spring Orgiastic Festival

This proposal has been designed to promote the use of Marijuana as a recreational drug. Due to recent studies that indicate Marijuana has more minor long-term effects than Alcohol or Tobacco, The Borderland of Lexxam believe it is time for the people of the UN to have a reality check.
So alcohol and tobacco are more harmful? Ban them instead, then.

It is believed that legalizing Marijuana would not only lead to an increase in economic activities for those countries with the proper climate to grow it, but also to a decrease in crime, due to the lack of need for illegal "drug deals". This is without mentioning that Marijuana has been proven to help many medical patients who are in extreme pain, and may even be a good replacement for more addicting drugs such as morphine.
Marijuana is not used as a medicinal drug in the way morphine is. One clears glaucoma, one is a powerful sedative. I don't see why you're making this link. Further, you're admitting that this proposal only economically favours certain countries. What about those without the climate to grow it? How do they benefit?

I don't even understand the operative clauses. Suffice it to say, no support.

This proposal does not force anyone to legalize it, thus the operator URGE. What i intended it to do is establish laws for those that do legalize it, so has to create a safer enviroment.

Marijuana and Morphine are used to treat some of the same things, yes they have their differences, but it has been brought up before that with some more research marijuana could very well replace other painkillers.

Many nations don't even consider the option to ban alcohol and tobacco, it is such wide-spread use, and considering they as well are recreational drugs, I would be being a hypocrite. I'm not saying Marijuana should be banned because it has bad effects, i'm saying that those UN Nations that choose to legalize it need rules and standards, as well as trying to urge many nations that maybe its not so bad.

As for the other recreational drug proposals, I looked over all of them, and none of them are very specific about anything really. They are trying to make it required that nations allowed recreational drug use, my proposal is more to establish a set of rules associated with recreational drug use.

This proposal does not force anyone to legalize it, thus the operator URGE. What i intended it to do is establish laws for those that do legalize it, so has to create a safer enviroment.
Well, I just think that's excessive micromanagement, then. The preambulatory clauses are out of sync with the operative clauses. This should NOT be in the promote category; I suspect if you submit it as such, it would be deleted. If anything, it tightens laws, because whilst it doesn't force any legalisation, it does force restriction on use. So I would change it to 'Outlaw'.

Marijuana and Morphine are used to treat some of the same things, yes they have their differences, but it has been brought up before that with some more research marijuana could very well replace other painkillers.
So authorise research, including live human testing. That's different from saying we should allow everyone to go out and get stoned for fun.

Many nations don't even consider the option to ban alcohol and tobacco, it is such wide-spread use, and considering they as well are recreational drugs, I would be being a hypocrite. I'm not saying Marijuana should be banned because it has bad effects, i'm saying that those UN Nations that choose to legalize it need rules and standards, as well as trying to urge many nations that maybe its not so bad.
Many nations do consider the option, though. Many nations have outlawed alcohol and tobacco. And, your proposal is twisted: you're saying it's good, but also it's bad. That's why I find it puzzling the operative clauses are so askew.

As for the other recreational drug proposals, I looked over all of them, and none of them are very specific about anything really. They are trying to make it required that nations allowed recreational drug use, my proposal is more to establish a set of rules associated with recreational drug use.
Yes. Which is why yours is a fundamentally different proposal. This isn't a legalisation proposal: it's micromanagement of the application of domestic drugs laws.

I missenterpreted the whole "legalize, outlaw, promote" options obviously. I apologize for this. If you deem that worthy to totally abolish my proposal, then it will be done. I thought that by coming up with a slightly different approach to the "recreational drug use" option I may be able to come up with something that could be widely accepted by all nations. I was wrong according to you, so be it. I realize you have torn apart my proposal limb for limb, and truthfully I don't have the time to come up with my own arguements against all yours. I'm a student in highschool, not a politian, and figured I was ready to enter the world of being a UN delegate, seeing as I enjoyed getting to vote on UN resolutions. If i do choose to bring up another proposal, I can assure you i will spend much more time thinking of every possible arguement that could be made against it, but where I am in life right now (work and school, 5 days a week, plus after school tutorials and exams) I just don't have time.

edit: I also noticed that you keep mentioning how you are confused with my proposal. I don't see how it could be that confusing? Word for word it is an easy read, of course the operators can be confusing if thats all you read, but I believe it is rather easy to understand if you read the following statement.

Just go smoke some dro and stop worrying about the drug policies of other nations. We'll all be better off.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones

If i do choose to bring up another proposal, I can assure you i will spend much more time thinking of every possible arguement that could be made against it, but where I am in life right now (work and school, 5 days a week, plus after school tutorials and exams) I just don't have time.
Ok, sorry. I didn't mean to 'scare you away'. I think it's an interesting approach, actually. But what you have to bear in mind is even if you had all the time in the world, you wouldn't be able to write a 'perfect' proposal, or counter all the arguments. No one can. Perfect proposals are boring, anyway. What the UN forum is good for is posting an idea - like this - and getting feedback. Some of us spend way too much time playing this game; however, this means we see more proposals, more decisions, and get a better idea of the rules. We can help you out. I think it's good to see someone posting their proposal on the forum, which most people don't do. But you have to expect some criticism. Hopefully, that will help you get a better proposal. I was maybe a bit too destructive on this one, but in general, I do try to help people improve their proposals, if they're willing. There's plenty of other people on the forums who will do the same. Please don't 'give up': you took a new approach, which is good, and in a UN currently filled with repeals and regurgitation of old ideas, that's needed.

Don't worry, I'm not saying I'm giving up. What I'm trying to say is that I am taking your criticism to heart and will build a better proposal next time I make an attempt.

Don't worry, I'm not saying I'm giving up. What I'm trying to say is that I am taking your criticism to heart and will build a better proposal next time I make an attempt.

OOC: That's a good attitude to take. Keep it up and you could become a valuable contributor here. :)

And don't take my negative IC comments too seriously. I'm not actually an asshole. Most of the time. ;)

Don't worry, I'm not saying I'm giving up. What I'm trying to say is that I am taking your criticism to heart and will build a better proposal next time I make an attempt.
Ok, well that's excellent then.

*appears from the shadows*

Listen to my puppets, my son.

*disappears into the shadows*

hey, hey, hey, smoke weed everyday! This stuff needs to be legalized all over. I smoke everyday and I turned out great, or am I still turning out? weird, something to think about

hey, hey, hey, smoke weed everyday! This stuff needs to be legalized all over. I smoke everyday and I turned out great, or am I still turning out? weird, something to think about

Yeah, you turned out just fine... :rolleyes:

hey, hey, hey, smoke weed everyday! This stuff needs to be legalized all over. I smoke everyday and I turned out great, or am I still turning out? weird, something to think about
*cough*

this is a rather curious decision i personaly dont smoke it but i know people that do smoke it and they are not bad people but it does have some health issues but i think that it should be only used for medicinal uses but to each his ow right? :)

this is a rather curious decision i personaly dont smoke it but i know people that do smoke it and they are not bad people but it does have some health issues but i think that it should be only used for medicinal uses but to each his ow right? :)

My brain hurts. Spliffs are less harmful than certain sentences.

Yeah, you turned out just fine... :rolleyes:
Thanks, so did you. I love you man

Hello,
This should not be on the table. Fascist countries cannot survive with marijuana legalization it leads to excessive liberalization. Liberalized countries do not do well when marijuana and recreational drugs are made illegal because they are bureaucratic their prison populations undergo explosive growth.

Hello,
This should not be on the table. Fascist countries cannot survive with marijuana legalization it leads to excessive liberalization. Liberalized countries do not do well when marijuana and recreational drugs are made illegal because they are bureaucratic their prison populations undergo explosive growth.

I'm guessing from this statement that you've been smoking a little yourself...