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Draft: Olympics

Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 02:14
Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do. I am proposing that a comitee called the International Olympic Comitee (IOC) be formed to help organize and host an event in a different UN member country every 2 years.

The Specific terms being:

1.A Every 2 years a summer olympic event and a winter olympic event be held in a different country each of those five years.

2.A Every country will have an olympic team that participates in these events in a Playoff style fashion

2.B. During the 2 years each temas country will play different teams that rank each countries team in a point system. The best 300 of those teams will then move on to compete in the Olympics.

2.C Throughout the season random drug test will occur every 3 months.

3.A All interested countries who wish to host an olympic event can bid their country once every 12 years if they win the bid.

3.B If the country bids and doesn't win they can try again and again until they make it

3.C All countries who bid must have newly renovated athletic complexes within 10 years and must undergo complete safety inspections.

4.A A countries team must have a universal jersey with their countries colors somewhere on their jersey

Extras:
The IOC is to be an unbiased comitee
If a country chooses they don't have to participate in the Olympics
Forgottenlands
22-01-2006, 02:23
The olympics is probably the most attempted (in terms of major, serious attempts) and failed area of UN law. It is one of the hardest to get through because the RL IOC is impossible to model in the UN. Add on that some people have noted in the past "We already have Olympic games, they just didn't need a UN mandate to be run"
Kernwaffen
22-01-2006, 02:33
Define drugs...
Forgottenlands
22-01-2006, 02:35
Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do. I am proposing that a comitee called the International Olympic Comitee (IOC) be formed to help organize and host an event in a different UN member country every 2 years.

....Fine

The Specific terms being:

1.A Every 2 years a summer olympic event and a winter olympic event be held in a different country each of those five years.

I lost you as of the word "each". There's a single event?

2.A Every country will have an olympic team that participates in these events in a Playoff style fashion

So the entire team plays, say, Hockey and we keep working our way up using.....a playoff style fasion

Define playoff style (yes, I know what you mean by it, but the UN Gnomes didn't, AFAIK, grow up watching humans play sports)

2.B. During the 2 years each temas country will play different teams that rank each countries team in a point system. The best 300 of those teams will then move on to compete in the Olympics.

define temas - or fix that typo. Your choice

So you will have a 1 in 100 chance of getting a team into the olympics....interesting

It takes a few minutes to try and figure out what you're trying to say here. Might want to reword it.

2.C Throughout the season random drug test will occur every 3 months.

Ok, we'll randomly test one player out of all the teams every 3 months to discourage the use of drugs!

3.A All interested countries who wish to host an olympic event can bid their country once every 12 years if they win the bid.

Try "Any country can bid for an olympic event, provided they have not hosted one in the last 12 years"

3.B If the country bids and doesn't win they can try again and again until they make it

Meh, reword my line so you can combine 3 a and b

3.C All countries who bid must have newly renovated athletic complexes within 10 years and must undergo complete safety inspections.

......

HUH?

4.A A countries team must have a universal jersey with their countries colors somewhere on their jersey

There's going to be a lot of people wearing the same uniform.

Extras:
The IOC is to be an unbiased comitee

MANNED BY UN GNOMES!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

If a country chooses they don't have to participate in the Olympics

Optionality, illegal.
Sheknu
22-01-2006, 02:37
The olympics is probably the most attempted (in terms of major, serious attempts) and failed area of UN law.
Minimum wage?
Forgottenlands
22-01-2006, 02:39
Minimum wage?

Hmm......maybe. UN Funding is right up there - though it's definately behind both of these two. Though minimum wage has failed more often due to lack of interest than either olympics or UN funding - the latter two failing because the mods keep deeming them illegal.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 03:34
....Fine



I lost you as of the word "each". There's a single event?



So the entire team plays, say, Hockey and we keep working our way up using.....a playoff style fasion

Define playoff style (yes, I know what you mean by it, but the UN Gnomes didn't, AFAIK, grow up watching humans play sports)



define temas - or fix that typo. Your choice

So you will have a 1 in 100 chance of getting a team into the olympics....interesting

It takes a few minutes to try and figure out what you're trying to say here. Might want to reword it.



Ok, we'll randomly test one player out of all the teams every 3 months to discourage the use of drugs!



Try "Any country can bid for an olympic event, provided they have not hosted one in the last 12 years"



Meh, reword my line so you can combine 3 a and b



......

HUH?



There's going to be a lot of people wearing the same uniform.



MANNED BY UN GNOMES!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA



Optionality, illegal.

Thank you. I notice you see my work a lot and I thank you for taking the effort of looking at my proposal.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 03:51
Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do. I am proposing that a comitee called the International Olympic Comitee (IOC) be formed to help organize and host an event in a different UN member country every 2 years.

The Specific terms being:

1.A Every 2 years a summer olympic events and a winter olympic events be held in a different country

2.A Every country will have an olympic team that participates in these events in a Playoff style fashion

2.A.I Each country has a randomly selected schedule for one year in all Summer and Winter Sports.

2.B. For every win that a countries team gets it earns points. The best 300 of those teams will then move on to compete in the Olympics.

2.C Drug test will take place every month. Urine samples will be sent into the IOC headquarters and they will be analyzed for any banned substances*.

3.A Any country can bid for an olympic event, provided they have not hosted one in the last 12 years

3.B Any country that wins the bid must have all athletic complexes (stadiums, domes, etc.) must pass safety exams to unsure they are safe for the athletes as well as fans

4.A A countries team must have a universal jersey with the countries colors, countries name, and national aminal incorparated in the jersey design.

Extras:
The IOC is to be an unbiased comitee
If a country chooses they don't have to participate in the Olympics

Banned substances include:
amiphenazole
amphetamines
amineptine
cocaine
ephedrine
fencamfamine
mesocarb
pentylentetrazol
pipradol
salbutamol
terbutaline
dextromoramide
dextropropoxyphene
diamorphine
methadone
morphine
pentazocine
pethidine
clostebol
fluoxymesterone
metandienone
metenolone
nandrolone
oxandrolone
stanozolol
testosterone
acetazolamide
bumetanide
chlorthalidone
ethacrynic acid
furosemide
hydrochlorothiazide
mannitol
mersalyl
spironolactone
triamterene
acebutalol
alprenolol
atenolof
labetalol
metoprolol
nadolol
oxprenolol
propranolol
sotalol
dextropropoxyphene
ethylmorphine
hydrocodone
morphine
pentazocine
pethidine
propoxyphene
Anabolic steroids
agonists
boldenone metenolone
clenbuterol methandriol
clostebol methyltestosterone
danazol mibolerone
dehydrochlormethyltest nandrolone
dihydrotestosterone norethandrolone
drostanolone oxandrolone
fluoxymesterone oxymesterone
formebolone oxymetholone
Insulin stanozolol
metandienone testosterone
trenbolone
Winstrol
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 03:52
I'm not sure what any of the drugs are but they are to be banned and are banned in the real Olympics
Hersfold
22-01-2006, 04:32
The olympics is probably the most attempted (in terms of major, serious attempts) and failed area of UN law. It is one of the hardest to get through because the RL IOC is impossible to model in the UN. Add on that some people have noted in the past "We already have Olympic games, they just didn't need a UN mandate to be run"

Yeah. I've tried this twice. First one got DEATed by the mods, and was the foundation for the rule that you can't have committies staffed by actual people, and the second one just didn't get support, things got busy on my end, and I gave up.

Good luck with it, but I must say you won't have too good of chances. Here's (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Olympic_Games_%28removed%29) the text of the resolution that got deleted, if it helps. Plus a little story that is actually very accurate for not being written by me.
Yelda
22-01-2006, 06:50
Extras:
The IOC is to be an unbiased comitee
If a country chooses they don't have to participate in the Olympics

Banned substances include:
<snip>
You're not planning to put this list in the proposal are you?
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 17:18
You're not planning to put this list in the proposal are you?

No it is merely for the readers in this thread who didn't realize that in real life the IOC is unbiased and that not every country particapates in the olympics. I probably won't put the banned substances list in the proposal either.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 17:22
Yeah. I've tried this twice. First one got DEATed by the mods, and was the foundation for the rule that you can't have committies staffed by actual people, and the second one just didn't get support, things got busy on my end, and I gave up.

Good luck with it, but I must say you won't have too good of chances. Here's (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Olympic_Games_%28removed%29) the text of the resolution that got deleted, if it helps. Plus a little story that is actually very accurate for not being written by me.


Hey that proposal was damn good. Would you mind re submitting it without the game modifacation. I think that was real solid and ten times better than mine. Then if your doesn't pass I'll use mine as an afterthought.
Forgottenlands
22-01-2006, 18:08
Add:
3.B.1 The IOC will have a publicly viewable list of all drugs that are considered to be banned substances and may be tested for in the submitted urine samples

Fix:
4.A - countries->country's (all instances)
Yelda
22-01-2006, 18:16
You also should think about changing your numbering system. The current one is really awkward. At first glance it looks like you have two 2.A's. Try Roman numerals or lower case letters or (i), (ii), (iii).
Sheknu
22-01-2006, 18:22
How does the Olympics (sports including fencing, javelin, archery, shooting, wrestling, boxing) promote world peace?
Forgottenlands
22-01-2006, 18:42
How does the Olympics (sports including fencing, javelin, archery, shooting, wrestling, boxing) promote world peace?

Historically or currently?
Optischer
22-01-2006, 19:23
Kernwaffen only wants to know your definition of drugs, so that he can outline it in his absurd proposal, get rid of that piece and put all his competing athletes on steroids so he can win. Then he'll slur victory because he had nothing to do with drugs, nor did the team while he's doped up.


And I'm going to blow any olympic's up that have a UN mandate.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 20:16
How does the Olympics (sports including fencing, javelin, archery, shooting, wrestling, boxing) promote world peace?


It brings everyone together to so that they can show patriotism for their country and so that athletes can show sportsmanship to one another. An event where everyone in the world is trying to get to one place.
Sheknu
22-01-2006, 20:20
It brings everyone together to so that htey can show patriotism for their country and so that athletes can show sportsmanship to one another. An event where everyone in the world is trying to get to one place.
Because patriotism has traditionally been an agent of world peace. Right...
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 20:20
Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do. I am proposing that a comitee called the International Olympic Comitee (IOC) be formed to help organize and host an event in a different UN member country every 2 years.

The Specific terms being:

1.A Every 2 years a summer olympic events and a winter olympic events be held in a different country

2.A Every country will have an olympic team that participates in these events in a Playoff style fashion

2.A.i Each country has a randomly selected schedule for one year in all Summer and Winter Sports.

2.B. For every win that a country's team gets it earns points. The best 300 of those teams will then move on to compete in the Olympics.

2.C Drug test will take place every month. Urine samples will be sent into the IOC headquarters and they will be analyzed for any banned substances*.

3.A Any country can bid for an olympic event, provided they have not hosted one in the last 12 years

3.B Any country that wins the bid must have all athletic complexes (stadiums, domes, etc.) must pass safety exams to unsure they are safe for the athletes as well as fans

3.B.i The IOC will have a publicly viewable list of all drugs that are considered to be banned substances and may be tested for in the submitted urine samples


4.A A country's team must have a universal jersey with the country's colors, country's name, and national aminal incorparated in the jersey design.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 20:27
I'm going to blow this idea up, tear it to shreds, liquidize it, add artificial flavourings and introduce OLYMPIOS The NEW cereal all the COOL Kids are eating


What the heck is your problem.
Fonzoland
22-01-2006, 20:31
What the heck is your problem.

I suggest you make good use of your nation's I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons.
Optischer
22-01-2006, 20:32
I tlooks so cool in Italics. I might edit it. I don't have a problem. I'm just an extreme radicalist (I think) and yu can ask anyone. Not only that but you needed some colour. If the olympics pass, I'll blow you up forproposingit, then give you a sponsor to fund with.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 20:37
I tlooks so cool in Italics. I might edit it. I don't have a problem. I'm just an extreme radicalist (I think) and yu can ask anyone. Not only that but you needed some colour. If the olympics pass, I'll blow you up forproposingit, then give you a sponsor to fund with.


I think you need to take a look in the mirror and decide if you need conseling.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 20:44
A 13yr old kid going into a psychiatrists, walks up to the receptionist and says "I. I'm a Lunatic. Can I get some Counselling?" I don' think so. I may be 13, but I know what to do.

I'm going to look in the mirror, because I'm an individual. I'm gonna decide I look okay, my hairs wet because I just got out of the bath. And I'm going to post this saying,

I'm not weird, everyone else is.

You know the first step is denial. Once you can overcome that you'll be okay. My friend had a phyciatrist when he was 13.
Optischer
22-01-2006, 20:48
Listen here. Im the boy that thinks the world moves for us, we don't move forward, the world moves backward. I am the guy who is most fanatical about becoming the next decent Prime Minister. I am about as weird as anyone else. I'm a human. I'm not in denial. I know that I'm a little extreme and eccentric. But respect my point of view, like I do yours. And I'll send you a lifetime's supply of Olympio's.
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 21:01
Listen here. Im the boy that thinks the world moves for us, we don't move forward, the world moves backward. I am the guy who is most fanatical about becoming the next decent Prime Minister. I am about as weird as anyone else. I'm a human. I'm not in denial. I know that I'm a little extreme and eccentric. But respect my point of view, like I do yours. And I'll send you a lifetime's supply of Olympio's.


Your funny in a good way (i think) ok. You can put down the phone with the receptionist at the quaks office.
Optischer
22-01-2006, 21:30
Amend your olympics now! I have decided that olympics will only bring us together if they are smilie olympics!
Super Duper awsomeness
22-01-2006, 21:33
Amend your olympics now! I have decided that olympics will only bring us together if they are smilie olympics!

That doesn't even make since
Optischer
22-01-2006, 21:36
Every country enetrs it's own team of smilies! Then we could have all sorts of events! Cutest Smilie! Most teeth in a smilie! And all the normal ones. Just imagine different swimming smilies! It will be so funny.
Forgottenlands
23-01-2006, 00:30
Optischer, if you have nothing constructive to add, go find a thread where you can provide something useful or get lost. It's quite apparent you have nothing but contempt for this proposal, your position has been given, now go.

I'll analyze the third draft in a while, got some shopping to do first....
Westenwales
23-01-2006, 01:31
It does sound rather intriguing. I'd like to see how you do.

Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do.

And I do believe you mean "overdue." If not, my mistake.
Ceorana
23-01-2006, 01:48
Description: The lack of an event that promotes world peace and physical education is very much over do.
Westenwales was correct, you are looking for the word "overdue".
I am proposing that a comitee called the International Olympic Comitee (IOC) be formed to help organize and host an event in a different UN member country every 2 years.
Take out "I". Say, "The UN hereby create a committee..." or something.

The Specific terms being:
Sounds weird. "The Olympics shall be operated under the following terms", or something.

1.A Every 2 years a summer olympic events and a winter olympic events be held in a different country
Fine.

2.A Every country will have an olympic team that participates in these events in a Playoff style fashion
I don't like being mandated to do this. Perhaps make it optional. I think the mods have ruled that it's not illegal for optionality unless you make it not happen without nation approval: you can allow nations to opt-out of a larger program, although it would probably bump the strength down to mild, if it's not already there.

2.A.i Each country has a randomly selected schedule for one year in all Summer and Winter Sports.
Huh?

2.B. For every win that a country's team gets it earns points. The best 300 of those teams will then move on to compete in the Olympics.
Don't specify an exact number, use a percent to allow for changing numbers of teams.

2.C Drug test will take place every month. Urine samples will be sent into the IOC headquarters and they will be analyzed for any banned substances*.
Okay, although this is a little bit micromanaging (?).

3.A Any country can bid for an olympic event, provided they have not hosted one in the last 12 years

3.B Any country that wins the bid must have all athletic complexes (stadiums, domes, etc.) must pass safety exams to unsure they are safe for the athletes as well as fans
Okay.


3.B.i The IOC will have a publicly viewable list of all drugs that are considered to be banned substances and may be tested for in the submitted urine samples
Good.


4.A A country's team must have a universal jersey with the country's colors, country's name, and national aminal incorparated in the jersey design.
I don't think our national animals have to be on there. How about flag and name?
St Edmund
23-01-2006, 16:21
Some nations have armies of genetically-engineered super-soldiers: The same techniques could presumably be used to create super-atheletes... Would this need to be banned?
Forgottenlands
23-01-2006, 16:59
Some nations have armies of genetically-engineered super-soldiers: The same techniques could presumably be used to create super-atheletes... Would this need to be banned?

And of course we've got the issue of the fact that robots are citizens in some nations and martians can lift a man up and spin him like a top with no issue and ....

*sighs*
Flibbleites
23-01-2006, 19:22
And of course we've got the issue of the fact that robots are citizens in some nations and martians can lift a man up and spin him like a top with no issue and ....

*sighs*
but teh ailens have no reights.
Forgottenlands
23-01-2006, 20:14
but teh ailens have no reights.

No, they just don't have UN guaranteed rights.....
St Edmund
24-01-2006, 16:25
And of course we've got the issue of the fact that robots are citizens in some nations and martians can lift a man up and spin him like a top with no issue and ....

*sighs*


And maybe the team from 'The Palentine' might have chosen its entrants for the swimming events from amongst their navy's dolphin personnel... ;)