NationStates Jolt Archive


2005 Third Quarter Resolution Survey

Mikitivity
14-01-2006, 01:14
In the third quarter of 2005, the UN rules were in full swing. Despite claims from some players that the UN was running out of new ideas, a diverse range of resolution categories and new subject material was still making it to the UN floor. A tradition of appending polls to the UN forum debates also began, allowing for comparisons between UN forum and over UN voting trends.

This survey will be used to determine the “finalist” of the third quarter resolutions that you, NationStates players, liked the most. I took the ten most popular resolutions from the third quarter of 2005 and included them in this poll. The poll is open to UN members and non-UN members, and you can vote for a resolution that your “country” voted against. I’ve included resolutions and repeals, since technically they both are resolutions. The point is simply to help decide which resolution we most liked.

Please feel free to reply to this thread to mention any other resolutions you liked. Perhaps future proposal writers will look to the more popular resolutions as examples of what players like to see.

Here is a list of ten most popular 2005 Jul-Sep UN Resolutions:
Civilian Rights Post War
Repeal “National Systems of Tax”
Establish UNWCC
Freedom of Conscience
Mitigation of Large Reservoirs
The Microcredit Bazaar
The Sex Education Act
UNCoESB
Labeling Standards
Repeal “Promotion of Solar Panels”

Summaries of some of these resolutions are available at the UN Timeline article on NSWiki:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Timeline

Several resolutions were adopted in this quarter, but left off the ballot. Each nation may nominate up to *two* of the following resolutions to be included on a "wild card" survey that will be held at a later date. The top two resolutions from each of the quarterly surveys and the wild card survey will "advance" to a final 2006 survey.

Here is the list of other 3rd Quarter, 2006 resolutions:
Nuclear Armaments x3 nominations
United Nations Security Act x1 nomination
UN Biological Weapons Ban
Repeal "Ban Chemical Weapons"
Adoption and IVF Rights
Promotion of Solar Panels
Gruenberg
14-01-2006, 01:22
Lots we'd vote for this quarter...two of which aren't on this list (and which I suspect certain other people would vote very strongly against), but also Repeal PoSP, and UNCoESB for setting up the dolphin repeal. But it has to be The Microcredit Bazaar.
Love and esterel
14-01-2006, 01:24
Pro-economy resolutions are pretty rare, Pazu-Lenny Kasigi-Nero really like The "Microcredit Bazaar":)
Mikitivity
14-01-2006, 01:31
Lots we'd vote for this quarter...two of which aren't on this list (and which I suspect certain other people would vote very strongly against), but also Repeal PoSP, and UNCoESB for setting up the dolphin repeal. But it has to be The Microcredit Bazaar.

Remember, you can make suggestions for resolutions to be included in the "Wild Card" round.

Personally, I think some of the 51% resolutions should be included in the polls too, because they represent very interesting times in the UN.

If it helps, I'm having a hard time choosing here as well. I'm a fan of Mitigation and Labeling Standards and will reread them both before casting my vote for the Third Quarter. :)
The Most Glorious Hack
14-01-2006, 01:32
Argh! The Microcredit Bazaar, or Repeal “Promotion of Solar Panels”... hmm...
Gruenberg
14-01-2006, 01:33
Nuclear Armaments, then, should be included in the 'wild card'. A choice, I'm sure, everyone would agree with.
Forgottenlands
14-01-2006, 01:34
TBH, Protection of Solar Panels was my favorite resolution - not because I liked it, but I liked the politics surrounding it. It highlighted some of our greatest strengths and weaknesses and I think more than ANY other resolution passed this year - and certainly in the 8 months I've been here, it defined this forum and the members of this community.
Mikitivity
14-01-2006, 01:37
Nuclear Armaments, then, should be included in the 'wild card'. A choice, I'm sure, everyone would agree with.

There can be up to 10 slots in the wild-card race alone, and then the 2 top vote getting resolutions for each quarter *and* the wild-card race will square off for the 2005 poll.

The debates on the gameplay impacts due to Nuclear Armaments alone make it easy for me to second your nomination for it to be a wild card contender. :)
Mikitivity
14-01-2006, 01:38
TBH, Protection of Solar Panels was my favorite resolution - not because I liked it, but I liked the politics surrounding it. It highlighted some of our greatest strengths and weaknesses and I think more than ANY other resolution passed this year - and certainly in the 8 months I've been here, it defined this forum and the members of this community.

:) Yeah, I think reasons like that are really important to point out!
Gruenberg
14-01-2006, 02:26
Oh, Wena! I think I'd take all four of my favourites just from this quarter. Forgot about Repeal PoDA. That should definitely be in the extra round.
Compadria
14-01-2006, 02:27
Simply because it was the resolution where my nation made its U.N. debut, I choose "Mitigation of Large Reservoirs". It seems so long ago already.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.
Love and esterel
14-01-2006, 02:30
Simply because it was the resolution where my nation made its U.N. debut, I choose "Mitigation of Large Reservoirs". It seems so long ago already.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.


Yes a good and sensible one, it was just a little bit hard for me to understand at that time, and i posted then a really silly post against (shame on me:headbang: ) before turning FOR.
The Most Glorious Hack
14-01-2006, 03:05
Forgot about Repeal PoDA. That should definitely be in the extra round.Damn straight.
Waterana
14-01-2006, 06:07
UNCoESB.

Tough choices in this round. I couldn't vote for my own resolution because that would have been bad form, not to mention most of the others are better, which I'm the first to admit.

It was a toss up between UNCoESB, Freedom of Conscience and Labeling Standards for me. Ended up going for UNCoESB because it laid the groundwork that lead to us finally getting rid of that dolphin thing.
Mikitivity
14-01-2006, 06:25
UNCoESB.

Tough choices in this round. I couldn't vote for my own resolution because that would have been bad form, not to mention most of the others are better, which I'm the first to admit.

It was a toss up between UNCoESB, Freedom of Conscience and Labeling Standards for me. Ended up going for UNCoESB because it laid the groundwork that lead to us finally getting rid of that dolphin thing.

I don't know if I'll vote for UNCoESB, because I like focused resolutions, and it kinda did everything with one resolution. But at the same time, I think the campaigning that went behind that resolution was some of the *best* I've seen in two years here. In short, I think it was a very important / interesting resolution.
Flibbleites
14-01-2006, 07:09
There can be up to 10 slots in the wild-card race alone, and then the 2 top vote getting resolutions for each quarter *and* the wild-card race will square off for the 2005 poll.

The debates on the gameplay impacts due to Nuclear Armaments alone make it easy for me to second your nomination for it to be a wild card contender. :)
I'll third the nomination of Nuclear Armaments.:D
James_xenoland
14-01-2006, 07:51
I'll go with the Repeal of “Promotion of Solar Panels”
Valori
14-01-2006, 19:00
My favorite act was the Sex Education Act. While I was Delegate I supported it and I got in quite a few debates protecting it. It was the first real resolution to introduce me into the United Nations.
Venerable libertarians
16-01-2006, 10:40
Oh yeah bad show of form again from me! :D
The microcredit Bazzar is Bizzare to me. Freedom of concience would have gotten my vote but I see the UNCoESB as an important piece of UN legislation. It puts firmly in place protections for All wildlife species and stops multiple resolutions for single species resolutions under redundancy arguements, thus saving the funding these would draw from our nations. It gave the majority of the power to the Member nations to enforce so it was Soverignty friendly.
I unabashedly cast my vote for the UNCoESB.
Ecopoeia
16-01-2006, 13:46
Ahem. Freedom of Conscience, despite the typographical errors. Curses.
Palentine UN Office
18-01-2006, 00:00
UNCoESB, for one reason. It paved the way to remove The Protection of Dolphins Act, and will also help in eventually repealing the Whaling Ban.:D

Excelsior,
Sen. Horatio Sulla
Texan Hotrodders
23-01-2006, 22:32
Too bad about UNSA. It wasn't all that popular, but it was sure as hell significant to the whole UN process, whereas my first resolution was not quite so significant.

Like Eminem, I have a bad habit of thriving on controversy.
Mikitivity
24-01-2006, 02:34
Too bad about UNSA. It wasn't all that popular, but it was sure as hell significant to the whole UN process, whereas my first resolution was not quite so significant.

Like Eminem, I have a bad habit of thriving on controversy.

Would you like it nominated as a wild card since it didn't make the top 10?
Sheknu
24-01-2006, 02:41
Would you like it nominated as a wild card since it didn't make the top 10?
I'm not sure about that, simply because it won't win. That's not, especially, what's important about UNSA. I don't think anyone - probably starting with Texan Hotrodders - would imagine it was ever likely to be the most popular resolution. However, it is definitely one of the most interesting resolutions, in the way that some very good resolutions are actually not.

I'd say a resolution like Diplomatic Immunity is 'interesting': there had been a number of attempts to define this concept, and this was the most successful. It was an accumulation of a long-standing concept within the NSUN. The Transgender Equality Act failed, but it attracted more attention than the two or three successful resolutions which preceeded it combined. Similarly, then, National Systems of Tax, Nuclear Armaments, and United Nations Security Act, each have an importance in terms of the arguments about precedent, the role and legitimacy of national sovereignty, and so on.

I'm not, incidentally, calling for a whole separate 'most interesting' category. I'm just saying: UNSA probably won't accrue many votes. That doesn't mean it hasn't got a significance in UN lore which will definitely persist.
Forgottenlands
24-01-2006, 04:25
Because of the work I invested into UNSA (or, more appropriately, to counter UNSA), I'll nominate it for wild card.
Mikitivity
24-01-2006, 04:53
Because of the work I invested into UNSA (or, more appropriately, to counter UNSA), I'll nominate it for wild card.

Got it. Up to this point there have been only four nominations.

And I actually think the UNSA is a very important resolution ... it certainly had the most significant impact on the UN rules that I've seen in a long time.
Texan Hotrodders
24-01-2006, 16:00
I appreciate FL nominating the UNSA, but as Sheknu suggested, I don't see much point in it, which is why I didn't nominate it myself.

Nonetheless, thanks to FL. I hope to cross swords with you again soon. :)
Forgottenlands
24-01-2006, 17:01
I appreciate FL nominating the UNSA, but as Sheknu suggested, I don't see much point in it, which is why I didn't nominate it myself.

Nonetheless, thanks to FL. I hope to cross swords with you again soon. :)

It's not about popularity, it's about recognition of its importance. If we were to start listing off the most significant resolutions of 2005, there is no question the UNSA is in the top 10, almost certainly the top 3, and #1 for a large percentage of people. It cemented the ability to have such NatSov resolutions where the entire purpose was to prevent legislation (despite the fact that PC's NSoT came earlier, UNSA was seen as the true groundbreaker). It changed the entire face of how the game could be played. Certainly, it didn't have the effect that Vastiva feared of possibly collapsing the UN's ability to do anything, but it certainly made that ability a possibility.

Yes, ok, for me it will stick there because I fought so hard against it and started on of if not the biggest legality debates ever, but that is unimportant compared to what UNSA should be recognized as.

Regardless, a wildcard race of the less popular resolutions means that we aren't looking for the most popular, necessarily - so we might as well throw in the important.
Mikitivity
24-01-2006, 18:09
It's not about popularity, it's about recognition of its importance. If we were to start listing off the most significant resolutions of 2005, there is no question the UNSA is in the top 10, almost certainly the top 3, and #1 for a large percentage of people. It cemented the ability to have such NatSov resolutions where the entire purpose was to prevent legislation (despite the fact that PC's NSoT came earlier, UNSA was seen as the true groundbreaker). It changed the entire face of how the game could be played. Certainly, it didn't have the effect that Vastiva feared of possibly collapsing the UN's ability to do anything, but it certainly made that ability a possibility.

Regardless, a wildcard race of the less popular resolutions means that we aren't looking for the most popular, necessarily - so we might as well throw in the important.

I agree on both counts.

The survey's aren't supposed to be "what got the most votes", but rather any measure players like when they consider a resolution "the best of 2005".

One of the highest vote counts is Goobergunchia's old Outlaw Pedophila (sp?). I have the highest respect for Goobergunchia and am sad that he is largely leaving NationStates ... though I also think his resolution could use a serious face lift ... it certainly isn't the highest in my list of favorites.
Texan Hotrodders
24-01-2006, 23:42
Normally I would agree with y'all, but I was feeling cynical and resigned myself to the fact that it would mostly just be a popularity contest.
Mikitivity
14-02-2006, 22:08
The Microcredit Bazaar and Repeal "Promotion of Solar Panels" resolutions are the top two vote getters for the third quarter survey and will advance to the final round.

First we will conduct a survey of the alternates, but in order to get this process moving again, that survey will only be one week long.