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Could I humbly request that my UN colleagues please take a look at my proposals for an official UN sport? You can find it listed in proposals under the title Tiddlywinks. Thanks! ;)

Much as I love tiddlywinks, this proposal will be deleted as 'not worthy of the UN's consideration'.

It's considered polite to post the text, and give a link. Even for hilarious rofl lol proposals.

http://nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=tiddlywinks
Tiddlywinks
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Schnorbitz

Description: Here is our proposal:

RECOGNIZING that sport is a great morale-booster and team-building exercise;

KNOWING that such mainstream sports as football or cricket are probably too controversial to be chosen for this purpose (i.e. there would always be someone angered by it);

PROPOSES that tiddlywinks be declared as the official sport of the UN, with moves made to introduce a UN-wide tournament on a regular basis, the frequency of which is to be decided later.

Approvals: 0
Well, I'd support it.

The people of Cluichstan would prefer the official sport be either strip poker or buzkashi.

It's considered polite to post the text, and give a link.

Thank you for that - hadn't realised, and to be honest didn't know how to do it! I'm still learning.


Much as I love tiddlywinks, this proposal will be deleted as 'not worthy of the UN's consideration'.

I hope it doesn't get zapped, because I don't see anything wrong in adopting a UN sport, and who's to say tiddlywinks is any less worthy of consideration than any other sport?

The government & people of St Edmund would support this resolution.

Thanks for your kind words, people! Unfortunately it has been deleted by a moderator - not because it is 'unworthy', but because it constitutes a 'change to the game mechanics'. I don't really understand how this is, because a tiddlywinks tournament is clearly make believe, as is everything else which takes place in NS. I don't see how a tiddlywinks tournament changes the game mechanics, when selling food, arms etc does not!

It might be because you had it under the wrong category. I don't know if a tiddlywinks tournament qualifies as a human right. Then again, I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure if category violation falls under "game mechanics." It's something I'd ask for details on, in any case.

I think it was metagaming because it wanted to establish a "tournament".

Ah. Makes sense.

I think it's more likely just some over-zealous mod who didn't like the look of it and zapped it first, came up with a reason later.

I think it's more likely just some over-zealous mod who didn't like the look of it and zapped it first, came up with a reason later.
Tiddlywinks
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Schnorbitz

Description: Here is our proposal:

RECOGNIZING that sport is a great morale-booster and team-building exercise;

KNOWING that such mainstream sports as football or cricket are probably too controversial to be chosen for this purpose (i.e. there would always be someone angered by it);

PROPOSES that tiddlywinks be declared as the official sport of the UN, with moves made to introduce a UN-wide tournament on a regular basis, the frequency of which is to be decided later.

Approvals: 0
Enough with the "over-zealous mod" stuff. The bolded part is metagaming.

Enough with the "over-zealous mod" stuff. The bolded part is metagaming.No, no, no, Yelda. He's been playing an entire month. I mean, I just wrote the rules, so I clearly have no clue what I'm doing here. Obviously he's right. We're just a bunch of overzelous tyrants. :rolleyes:

If you removed the part of "with frequency to be decided later", there is a far off distant RP-land argument that you could possibly find reason to argue as not-metagaming, but WOW you'd have to have one HECK of a hard argument and need to know what you're talking about (and it might still get deleted anyways).

Considering it took us a whole 15 minutes to declare it illegal - and that was including the time it to Salfara to hunt it down, I really dislike the fact that you went overzealous mod. The fact that they called a Game Mechanics infringement over "not worthy of UN consideration" is because the former is something that you can do automatically - the latter they would probably need to discuss a bit since it's a judgement call. They basically gave you the easiest infringement they could find to delete it. That's not overzealous moderating.

There is a possibility there was a misinterpretation of what you were calling for (they probably thought it was you were looking for an actual game where various UN members play against each other in the tourny), and that's why you were flagged as game mechanics violation. In such a case, you'd go through the official channels (points to the moderation board) and give your case. However, in this case, it would have effectively been either a game mechanics or metagaming violation depending on whether it was an in-game or invisible aspect of the game (respectively)

I think it's more likely just some over-zealous mod who didn't like the look of it and zapped it first, came up with a reason later.

Just for the record, I am the moderator who deleted the proposal, and I suggest that you re-read the UN rules over again before using insults as a response to the deletion of your proposal.

Sir Albert staggers in and takes an aopproving look at t'tiddlewinks proposal. Grand work lad, a similar proposal was put in by Bahgum once, suggesting that bar games make up an olympic pentathlon event. It was all part of our bid to re-establish the glory of true pubs. Nowadays the misery police would ban it for being fun...erm.....illegal :(

see below:
Proposal to Restore the right to a decent pub

It is an (unofficial) human right to pop down the pub and sink a beer or eight. However, the pubs status as an unfettered bastion of joy and relaxation is being slowly eroded by increasing moral, image and health issues which are perniciously crossing over from general daily life into the hallowed halls of the pub.
Therefore the wise nation of Bahgum proposes that:

A campaign to appreciate the beer belly is launched, and that fine examples are awarded World Heritage status.

Accusations of smelling of smoke, stale beer and having kebab breath are classified as discriminatory and subject to a fine (say 5 pints).

It should be a Human right to come in late for work once a month due to a hangover (although the hours may be made up later), and what's more to be respected for having a zest for life.

Pool playing, darts, crown green bowling, skittles and dominoes should become an olympic pentathlon event.

We propose that this is a fine start to raising the pub to glory, which, once passed can be creatively enjoyed and added to (as wise nations see fit), is cheap and will generally raise the happiness of the world!