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The newly formed nation of Nucleardom has been perusing the UN activity and noted that there was some interest in creating a new proposal to follow up as a replacement for the Mandatory Recycling proposal. We thought that a new thread would be good to explore this issue further. Here is a proposed draft. WHile we have attempted to read and understand the legal issues in UN proposals, please excuse any mistakes made in this submission.

RECOGNIZING that growing population and industry has caused great increase in the consumption of finite natural resources and the production of waste material

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that technological advances have allowed different resources to be recycled to various degrees

UNDERSTANDING that not all countries possess the same ability to develop and implement these technologies

CREATES a UN Commission for World Recycling, to oversee the development and to maximize the availability of recycling technology to all nations

CALLS for all members to provide to UNCWR details on any civilian recycling programs, to allow lesser developed nations access to such programs

ENCOURAGES all such lesser developed nations to avail themselves of this aid to develop and implement such recycling programs of their own.


That's what we come up with for now. As we do not have the required two endorsements, we cannot submit this as an actual proposal, but are interested in seeing this cause furthered.

Sounds good...but it's missing something that I can't put my finger on...otherwise, it seems fine, better than the last one that's for sure.

I like it, but I think it could use a little more "oomph". As it is, it doesn't really do anything except for create a commission with no actual power and ask nations to do something, which sounds like a resolution a newbie proposal-writer would jump at the chance to repeal. Perhaps adding a clause mandating some progress would help, although I'm not sure how...

it doesn't really do anything except for create a commission with no actual power and ask nations to do something, which sounds like a resolution a newbie proposal-writer would jump at the chance to repeal. Perhaps adding a clause mandating some progress would help, although I'm not sure how...

Would it be possible, within the rules, to incorporate some mechanism to reward countries that participate (say by forgiving member debt to the UN) or to punish (say by restricting access to other forms of UN aid) those who don't, or would this be illegal/inappropriate for the NSUN?

Would it be possible, within the rules, to incorporate some mechanism to reward countries that participate (say by forgiving member debt to the UN) or to punish (say by restricting access to other forms of UN aid) those who don't, or would this be illegal/inappropriate for the NSUN?
Punish, probably not, as compliance is mandatory. You'd have to ask the mods, but I think you could work a reward system in that fits within the rules.

My goal in this resolution was not to make recycling "mandatory" per se, but to aggressively promote recycling programs world wide. As such, I would not necessarily "require" nations to comply with the program as mandatory, but would withhold some UN aid from those who chose not to. Again, I'm not sure what mechanisms actually exist within the world of NSUN to accomplish this.

Thoughts?

Punishments are right out, but you would be able to implement a rewards system, methinks. However, it would have to be all roleplay; there aren't any game mechanics that will actually reward nations for participating.

Ammendments are illegal.

Ammendments are illegal.
Where were they suggested?

I didn't realise there was a Repeal in queue. Nevermind.

Here is a rewrite of the propsal from earlier, which has not been submitted as a formal proposal (revision added definition of recycling, as well as requiring nations to provide details of their recycling programs to the UN, so the Commission can provide this info to lesser developed countries):

Description: RECOGNIZING that growing population and industry has caused great increase in the consumption of finite natural resources and the production of waste material

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that technological advances have allowed different resources to be recycled, defined as processing waste material for it's subsequent reuse in place of raw material, to various degrees

UNDERSTANDING that not all countries possess the same ability to develop and implement these technologies

CREATES a UN Commission for World Recycling, to oversee the development and to maximize the availability of recycling technology to all nations

REQUIRES all members to provide to UNCWR details on any known recycling programs, sufficient to allow lesser developed nations access to such programs

ENCOURAGES all such lesser developed nations to avail themselves of this aid to develop and implement such recycling programs of their own.


Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 123 more approvals)



I guess voting ends on Wednesday. Please, everyone have your delgates approve this proposal, to have a replacement (since it appears that the repeal will pass.)

Still, I think you should wait for the repeal to pass before submitting this.

I still don't see what this resolution does... it still doesn't tell nations what to do with their recycling, just that a commision will be put into place gathers stuff together and shares it. To me, at least, it seems very weak, I'd rather see a very well written proposal brought forward by a senior member than to pass another weak resolution. Sorry.

The replacement, as drafted, doesn't even encourage nations to recycle unless they are undeveloped. I would suggest that the UNCWR should look at data for the individual nations and give recommendations to each nation of what sort of recycling programs that nation is capable of implementing and sustaining - then you could have either an encourages or mandate for each individual nation to follow the recommendations given by the UNCWR.

I still don't see what this resolution does... it still doesn't tell nations what to do with their recycling, just that a commision will be put into place gathers stuff together and shares it. To me, at least, it seems very weak, I'd rather see a very well written proposal brought forward by a senior member than to pass another weak resolution. Sorry.
I feel uncomfortable when people start judging nations by their seniority rather than proposals by their merit. I agree that this proposal does need work, but that doesn't mean the Nucleardom can't do the work.

As for the proposal, I would agree with Forgottenlands that a committee could establish what a nation could do for recycling. Probably an "urges", though, instaed of "mandates", otherwise nations have to follow whatever an invisible committee does.

And this proposal is already a significant improvement due to the fact that the title is not in all caps. ;)

i like the idea of a replacement, and it would change my vote re. the repeal in the works :)

however, like the origional, i would be more supportive of something thats mandatory..... that being the only short fall (no matter how major), in my opinion, with the proposal