NationStates Jolt Archive


ROUGH DRAFT: Repeal Resolution #80

The Marxist State
19-12-2005, 22:40
DECLARING that UN Resolution #80 shall become Null and void

COMMENDING the UN's effort to fight inequality and to improve civil rights

APPALED that this forces nations to allow perhaps violent cultures to express themselves

FRIGHTENED that this forces nations to allow women to do difficult work to keep its philosophy in Article II.

ANNOYED that this forces us to allow enemy races and thus causing unrest in the populace

FRIGHTENED that this article is against a nations right to have an official religious belief.
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Comments.
Fonzoland
19-12-2005, 22:42
ROUGH DRAFT: Repeal Resolution #81
DECLARING that UN Resolution #80 shall become Null and void

Hilarious.
The Marxist State
19-12-2005, 22:46
--Snip--

Sorry. I had already typed it up before posting it so I just wanted to get it on the fourms.
Forgottenlands
19-12-2005, 22:49
Despite the fact that Resolution 80 is one of the most horribly constructed resolutions to have ever hit the UN's books, I cannot support this repeal.
Optischer
19-12-2005, 22:49
What exactly is Resolution #80 about? If it's about religious beliefs then tell me, as I have no religous beliefs, nor do our people. But we are preparing for a social disease.
Forgottenlands
19-12-2005, 22:51
Rights of Women and Minorities or something like that
Gruenberg
19-12-2005, 22:51
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=79

UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #80
Rights of Minorities and Women

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Amsterdam junior

Description: The UN should recognize that all people are created equal. The matter of race, sex, religion or sexual preference should not make anyone less equal. These are inalienable rights of all UN nation citizens.

ARTICLE I- No one race or culture is better than another.

ARTICLE II- Males and Females should be treated as equals. Whether it be in the workplace or at home.

ARTICLE III- Not a single religion or belief is better or more right than another.

ARTICLE IV- One should have the right to express their love for a member of the same sex.

Votes For: 12,055
Votes Against: 6,998

Implemented: Sat Nov 20 2004
Optischer
19-12-2005, 22:52
Ok. I can't really see anything wrong with it. It's actually pretty good, compared to some of the others, but I'm not referring right now.
Gruenberg
19-12-2005, 22:53
We'd support a repeal of this. It states 'no religion...is better or more right than another'. Bullshit. We all know those who do not tremble in awe of Wena's might are condemned to rot for all eternity. We would support a replacement, but only that fully recognised the superiority of our religion over all others. As it should be.
Forgottenlands
19-12-2005, 22:59
Hmm....somehow I recall a much more poorly constructed resolution than this.......
Optischer
19-12-2005, 23:00
Are all religions equal to no religion? How would you define a religion? Is believing in nothin believing in nothing? Am I talking like an incoherent baboon pepped up on spritzers?
The Lynx Alliance
19-12-2005, 23:01
dang, beat me to it

going through your argument...

i see nothing wrong with this.

point 1: i seriously dont get how you see this. how can you get 'allowing violent cultures' out of this? especially since the way you have done this, this argument is agains 'no race is better than any other'.

point 2: i see it as, and it could come across as a bit sexist, if they want the rights, they have to do the work too. there are plenty of women across TLA who are willing to do manual labour work, and even do it better than some guys.

point 3: nothing is forcing you to allow enemy races. if they legitamatly break the law, they can still be locked up

point 4: the rights of the people are greater than the rights of the nation. there are two things with this:
1) you can still have a state religion, just that you have to allow others as well
2) your nation could just be followers of that religion. that is what is happening in Eternal Kewaii (sorry EK if i have spelt that wrong)
Kirisubo
19-12-2005, 23:06
the Bill of Rights already covers religious freedom and free speech.

Although UNR #80 is fluffy its something I can agree with and I would need a lot of convincing to support a repeal of it.

Ambassador Kaigan Miromuta
Fonzoland
19-12-2005, 23:10
Prejudice and bigotry. Fonzoland says no.
Gruenberg
19-12-2005, 23:11
Prejudice and bigotry.

Gruenberg says yes. But this repeal does need work.
The Lynx Alliance
19-12-2005, 23:15
We'd support a repeal of this. It states 'no religion...is better or more right than another'. Bullshit. We all know those who do not tremble in awe of Wena's might are condemned to rot for all eternity. We would support a replacement, but only that fully recognised the superiority of our religion over all others. As it should be.
man, you will end up going to war with EK over that one...

sorry, but i have to agree with Fonzoland. this repeal is very much predjudicial and full of bigotory, and is the very reason the resolution it is trying to repeal exists.
Compadria
20-12-2005, 12:43
DECLARING that UN Resolution #80 shall become Null and void

COMMENDING the UN's effort to fight inequality and to improve civil rights

APPALED that this forces nations to allow perhaps violent cultures to express themselves

FRIGHTENED that this forces nations to allow women to do difficult work to keep its philosophy in Article II.

ANNOYED that this forces us to allow enemy races and thus causing unrest in the populace

FRIGHTENED that this article is against a nations right to have an official religious belief.
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Comments.

1). If you condemn the U.N.'s fight against inequality and the improvement of civil rights, why do you label yourself a Communist? Is this not somewhat inconsistent with those ideals.

2). I'm more appalled at your spelling to be honest. In addition, where is your scenario envisaged in Resolution 80.

3). Wouldn't this lead to an equalisation of the workforce, which is a key tenant of Communist societies, as well as improving your economy by expanding the workforce base.

4). Define "enemy races".

5). This does no such thing, it merely requires you recognise and not harass practioners of other faiths.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.
Hirota
20-12-2005, 13:17
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=79

hows this for a hastily drawn up repeal draft?

PRAISING member states efforts to fight inequality and to improve civil rights

MINDFUL of existing and continuing attempts to fight inequality and improve civil liberties

NOTING that this resolution accomplishes nothing already set out in current resolutions, and future resolutions will almost inevitably accomplish more, be more substantive, and more detailed.

DISAPPOINTED at the redundant nature of this resolution.

HEREBY repeals afformentioned resolution
Gruenberg
20-12-2005, 13:59
hows this for a hastily drawn up repeal draft?

It's fine. It's just, this is a low priority. I know the resolution's wrong: but to be honest, we all know my culture's better than everyone else's, no matter what the UN says, so it's not a big problem. Skinning redundant resolutions is something which is wholly worthwhile, but I think this'll have to wait a bit.
_Myopia_
20-12-2005, 14:23
I'd like to see a repeal, but could never support the draft put forward by The Marxist State.

"ANNOYED that this forces us to allow enemy races and thus causing unrest in the populace"?! This apparently racist populace can bloody well put up and shut up.

"FRIGHTENED that this article is against a nations right to have an official religious belief." You're wrong, it doesn't stop that, but nations don't have rights, as far as we're concerned, only duties - to provide that which their people have a right to, and to protect their liberties. And state-endorsed dogma is not part of that.
Hirota
20-12-2005, 14:39
It's fine. It's just, this is a low priority.

I know, which is exactly why I spent all of 2 minutes on the draft :)
Optischer
20-12-2005, 17:26
What is so bad about this proposal? It actually seems to make a better place in the world? But with it saying no religion is better or worse than another, it should probably be replaced with something a little more convenient.
Optischer
20-12-2005, 17:26
What is so bad about this proposal? It actually seems to make a better place in the world? But with it saying no religion is better or worse than another, it should probably be replaced with something a little more convenient.
Cluichstan
20-12-2005, 17:32
The more you post something, the greater its impact. :rolleyes:
Optischer
20-12-2005, 17:33
Sorry! I accidentally keep on posting two of the same things, my computer is a bit wacky!
Fonzoland
20-12-2005, 17:36
Delete one of them. Delete one of them.
St Edmund
21-12-2005, 15:53
from Resolution #80 _

Description: The UN should recognize that all people are created equal. The matter of race, sex, religion or sexual preference should not make anyone less equal. These are inalienable rights of all UN nation citizens.

"created"? Unproven assumption!
_Myopia_
21-12-2005, 19:34
"created"? Unproven assumption!

Not really. "Created" doesn't have to mean by a divine figure/force, it could mean your parents.
Optischer
21-12-2005, 21:36
Or a test tube
St Edmund
22-12-2005, 15:38
Not really. "Created" doesn't have to mean by a divine figure/force, it could mean your parents.

But then different people would have had different creators, which would make the assumed "equal" nature more questionable...
Caucasia Island
23-12-2005, 04:46
Wow...don't repeal it...support it...put a sticky-note on it. Yes, it's written badly....but what can be done? Should we risk repealing it, so we can re-submit a better one? The time between the two dates could be horrible. And what if we can never get it back? Stay on the safe side, either leave it alone or add on to it.