NationStates Jolt Archive


Public Transportation Proposal

Optischer
16-12-2005, 23:52
I'm thinking, why shouldn't we to help combat pollution and congestion start up a non-profit company, aimed at providing public transport, between towns, companies and countries? I think it's a great idea! A non-profit organisation run by the UN to help combat climate change would in theory combat pollution, And I know it works. I have it up and running in optischer.
Heres a unproposed Draft, since I'm waiting for feedback to make amendments.
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Proposal For The Introduction Of A Non-Profit UN Public Transportation Organisation

IThat a non-profit organisation between Un countries be set up, to encourage public use of Mass Transit

IIThat this organisation provides a reliable service, without disrupting current local Mass Transit to greatly

IIIThat in attempting to provide this service, the organisation also attempts to reduce pollution and congestion with increased public use

IVThat the organisation shall charge a set price between each stop/station

VThat it will have a stop/station between every major city, company and hospital

VIThat it will have to apply not only to local safety regulations, but also to a UN standard

VIIThat any profit be invested back into the system

VIIIThat governments contribute at least 5% of their transport budgets to the organisation

VIIIB:That subsidies to major contributors population be offered
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I hope you'll like it.
Optischer
Kirisubo
16-12-2005, 23:57
the idea is interesting but i still prefer to fly Imperial Kirisuban Airways. our stewardesses are prettier than a UN gnome ever will be. :p

in all seriousness although a bit more meat on the bones would help us see how practical this idea is.

Kaigan Miromuta, Ambassador
Fonzoland
16-12-2005, 23:57
I'm thinking, why shouldn't we to help combat pollution and congestion start up a non-profit company, aimed at providing public transport, between towns, companies and countries? I think it's a great idea! A non-profit organisation run by the UN to help combat climate change would in theory combat pollution, And I know it works. I have it up and running in optischer.
Heres a unproposed Draft, since I'm waiting for feedback to make amendments.
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Proposal For The Introduction Of A Non-Profit UN Public Transportation Organisation

IThat a non-profit organisation between Un countries be set up, to encourage public use of Mass Transit

IIThat this organisation provides a reliable service, without disrupting current local Mass Transit to greatly

IIIThat in attempting to provide this service, the organisation also attempts to reduce pollution and congestion with increased public use

IVThat the organisation shall charge a set price between each stop/station
VThat it will have a stop/station between every major city, company and hospital

VIThat it will have to apply not only to local safety regulations, but also to a UN standard

VIIThat any profit be invested back into the system
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I hope you'll like it.
Optischer

Errrr... have you been playing railroad tycoon too much? Are you trying to create one UN owned company in control of all the mass transportation in all member nations? Isn't that, er, mindboggingly enormous?
Optischer
16-12-2005, 23:58
I am not including Air Travel as public transport, but rather land and sea based transport. Might you give me some ideas for the meat please?
Thankfully.
optischer
Optischer
17-12-2005, 00:00
Actually, I haven't been playing railroad tycoon, but Locomotion by Chris Sawyer. I think it's a perfect idea. Governments might want to contribute to our system, wait. Idea:)
OMG I've gotta put this in, one sec
Fonzoland
17-12-2005, 00:01
I am not including Air Travel as public transport, but rather land and sea based transport. Might you give me some ideas for the meat please?
Thankfully.
optischer

Before you push this, I suggest you seriously consider the opinion of a few people around here. You know, some of us kind of enjoy private ownership of companies.
Gruenberg
17-12-2005, 00:03
Before you push this, I suggest you seriously consider the opinion of a few people around here. You know, some of us kind of enjoy private ownership of companies.

Some of us do. I would be very strongly opposed to this idea.
Optischer
17-12-2005, 00:06
I am not suggesting that we take over control of companies, but that we set up a non-profit Mass Transit Organisation. That way, companies can keep their own transport companies, but we will provide a skeleton service, so that if any companies do go bankrupt, your people will always have a basic transport service.
Idea!:) ! Why don't we allow companies to donate vehicles?
The Lynx Alliance
17-12-2005, 00:07
sorry, but the Airline companies and shipping companies within TLA would greatly object to this. and so do we. we have two questions:

1) would this actually be fesiable? when it is localised it is, but on a scale like this, we have our doubts.
2) is this really a UN concern? i know this one is designed for 'between nations' but you are effectivly putting the UN in compertion with established companies. these companies know how to keep costs at a minimum, and usually have fingers elsewhere (goods transportation, for example), so we are a bit hesitant to believe that this could compete with that
Fonzoland
17-12-2005, 00:08
Now I went from strongly opposed to strongly confused. Why the hell do Fonzoland's private RR/bus companies benefit from UN meddling?
Kirisubo
17-12-2005, 00:09
in all countries theres already companies that provide public transport.

In Kirisubo its the state owned company, Translinka. They run the bio diesel national and regional bus services, the bullet trains, the Edo underground system and the regional ferries.

Imperial Kirisuban Airlines which is also state owned looks after international and domestic flights.

As this is clearly a national matter i doubt this idea will take flight.

Kaigan Miromuta, Ambassador
Compadria
17-12-2005, 00:42
Once again it appears that Compadria is isolated in its iconoclasm, in that we quite like the idea. However we do not think such an organisation would be feasible and it would use up U.N. funds needed more urgently elsewhere.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.
Ceorana
17-12-2005, 04:14
Proposal For The Introduction Of A Non-Profit UN Public Transportation Organisation

IThat a non-profit organisation between Un countries be set up, to encourage public use of Mass Transit

Encouraging the public to use mass transit and instituting a ginourmous organization to compete with national and local ones are vastly different ideas.

IIThat this organisation provides a reliable service, without disrupting current local Mass Transit to greatly


Needs more detail on how this would be done. Limited service, etc.?

IIIThat in attempting to provide this service, the organisation also attempts to reduce pollution and congestion with increased public use

IVThat the organisation shall charge a set price between each stop/station

You mean the same price from one of my cities to another one of my cities as to a nation in Quadrant IV?

VThat it will have a stop/station between every major city, company and hospital

You mean that there will be a mass transit system connecting every company on the capital's main street? :p

VIThat it will have to apply not only to local safety regulations, but also to a UN standard

LOOPHOLE! Ceorana has passed a law saying that in the interest of safety, all mass transit systems serving over X cities must only operate once every [longtime]

VIIThat any profit be invested back into the system

VIIIThat governments contribute at least 5% of their transport budgets to the organisation

VIIIB:That subsidies to major contributors population be offered

This is going to take up a lot of money, you mean it will actually be GIVING money to contributers?

I think a lot of my feedback was a little harsh, and some things are just wording problems. But it still needs some work.
Cluichstan
17-12-2005, 08:02
Before you push this, I suggest you seriously consider the opinion of a few people around here. You know, some of us kind of enjoy private ownership of companies.

Yes, but unfortunately, "some of us" is about as far as it goes. :rolleyes:
Hou Mian
17-12-2005, 08:09
SOme countries may not have a transportation budget. Would this then be free to them?
St Edmund
17-12-2005, 13:57
That a non-profit organisation between Un countries be set up, to encourage public use of Mass Transit

Between UN countries? So what happens if there are non-UN countries on the most direct routes between them, must these services just pass through those other countries without stopping or can arrangements be made for services to & from those lands as well?

That it will have a stop/station between every major city, company and hospital

"between"? Do you mean "at", or were you really suggesting that the stops should be situated out away from those kinds of [possible] sources of customers?
Do I really need to point out that companies, especially major ones, don't necessarily have just one single location each?

That it will have to apply not only to local safety regulations, but also to a UN standard

Which UN body will be responsible for defining that standard? The General Assembly? A new committee? I think that this needs to be specified...


Oh, and how would such a proposed service cope with the differences in Tech Levels that exist between some of the nations involved?