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- Draft - United Nations Member Nuclear Materials Declaration Act

Naviblah
07-12-2005, 10:48
- Draft - United Nations Member Nuclear Materials Declaration Act

United Nations Member Nuclear Materials Declaration Act

RECOGNIZING that all sovereign states have the right to maintain, build, research, and trade nuclear materials, weapons, and energy;



THESE UNITED NATIONS DO HEREBY FIND AND DECLARE that all member states must abide by the following terms :

1.It must maintain accurate and honest records of all nuclear materials, used for any purpose.
2.It must not sell, trade, give a non-member state nuclear materials or research.
3.It will not attempt to prevent another member state from legally attaining nuclear materials or research.
4.It may research new uses, and purposes of nuclear materials with other member states.

THESE UNITED NATIONS DO FURTHER DECLARE that

1.All nations must declare their intentions with the United Nations to research, purchase or trade, nuclear materials.
2.All already nuclear nations will allow inspectors full access to all nuclear storage, maintenance, research, energy and weapons areas.
3.Yearly every nation will submit nuclear materials, weapons, storage, and research inventories.
4.Every forth year inspections will take place in random nuclear areas to ensure full compliance.


NOTING that all member nations found to not be in compliance of the above mentioned terms face sanctions ranging from, but not limited to economic or miltary. But also removal from THESE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS.


IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned, having deposited their respective full powers, have signed the present Convention.
St Edmund
07-12-2005, 11:36
THESE UNITED NATIONS DO HEREBY FIND AND DECLARE that all member states must abide by the following terms :

1.It must maintain accurate and honest records of all nuclear materials, used for any purpose.
2.It must not sell, trade, give a non-member state nuclear materials or research.
3.It will not attempt to prevent another member state from legally attaining nuclear materials or research.

There are some non-members whom I trust a lot more than I do some members...

2.All already nuclear nations will allow inspectors full access to all nuclear storage, maintenance, research, energy and weapons areas.
3.Yearly every nation will submit nuclear materials, weapons, storage, and research inventories.
4.Every forth year inspections will take place in random nuclear areas to ensure full compliance.

By whose inspectors?

NOTING that all member nations found to not be in compliance of the above mentioned terms face sanctions ranging from, but not limited to economic or miltary. But also removal from THESE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS.

Compliance with resolutions is supposed to be automatic for all NSUN members, the NSUN has no means of enforcing military sanctions, and it's specifically against the rules for a Resolution (rather than the Mods) to directly affect nations' membership in the NSUN.
Gruenberg
07-12-2005, 12:25
RECOGNIZING that all sovereign states have the right to maintain, build, research, and trade nuclear materials, weapons, and energy;

No, they don't. OC1 of The Nuclear Terrorism Act (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7161716&postcount=76):

PROHIBITS the sale or transfer of nuclear arms, devices, or technologies to known or suspected terrorist organizations;

THESE UNITED NATIONS DO HEREBY FIND AND DECLARE that all member states must abide by the following terms :

1.It must maintain accurate and honest records of all nuclear materials, used for any purpose.
2.It must not sell, trade, give a non-member state nuclear materials or research.
3.It will not attempt to prevent another member state from legally attaining nuclear materials or research.
4.It may research new uses, and purposes of nuclear materials with other member states.

This makes no sense. It looks a little like you've copied the format of another proposal. What is 'it' referring to, when the clause is introduced with 'these'? Furthermore:
I have no problem with record-keeping.
No. Uranium is a big trade. Furthermore, you already recognised the right of member states to trade in nuclear materials...doesn't this conflict with this?
Fine.
Alright. Why not with non-member states too? Some of them may have interesting ideas. And be more able to work on them, having not been crippled by years of poorly-conceived environmental resolutions.

THESE UNITED NATIONS DO FURTHER DECLARE that

1.All nations must declare their intentions with the United Nations to research, purchase or trade, nuclear materials.
2.All already nuclear nations will allow inspectors full access to all nuclear storage, maintenance, research, energy and weapons areas.
3.Yearly every nation will submit nuclear materials, weapons, storage, and research inventories.
4.Every forth year inspections will take place in random nuclear areas to ensure full compliance.

Again, you seem to have a compatibility problem. Is their right restricted or not? Furthermore, 'full access'? To what inspectors? Without confidentiality agreements, you can't mandate inspections: we won't allow just anyone to view our uberomgwtftop secret research, you know. And who are we submitting inventories to?

I see what you're trying to do. I'd advise against doing it. Compliance is automatic. Trying to ensure compliance probably creates more problems than not doing so: you're violating sovereignty to such an extent that we are going to object. The gnomes have a lighter touch.

NOTING that all member nations found to not be in compliance of the above mentioned terms face sanctions ranging from, but not limited to economic or miltary. But also removal from THESE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS.

And thus your proposal is illegal. You can't eject people from the UN until you get an avatar.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned, having deposited their respective full powers, have signed the present Convention.

What's the point of this? (Don't say 'but he did it!')
Hirota
07-12-2005, 12:27
Okay, lets have a look....I think this 2.It must not sell, trade, give a non-member state nuclear materials or research. contradicts this....4.It may research new uses, and purposes of nuclear materials with other member states.I disagree with no 2 as there are peaceful applications of nuclear materials and research - if weapons grade nuclear material was restricted only that would be fine, and co-operation in research should be legitimate with all states IMO.
Moving on...2.All already nuclear nations will allow inspectors full access to all nuclear storage, maintenance, research, energy and weapons areas.Who provides the inspectors? What are they inspecting for?4.Every forth year inspections will take place in random nuclear areas to ensure full compliance.Compliance of what?But also removal from THESE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS.That's illegal within a proposal - only a member state or the mods can remove a nation from the NSUN.

In summary, most of the proposal is fine. It lacks in certain areas. The style is adequate. It's a decent enough start. However, my associates within the Uranium Magnates association (UMA) have been working on a proposal over the last few months which we are going to release into the public domain shortly. Current drafts appear to take many of your concerns into account, and I would welcome your input when it is published for the UN's review.

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Naviblah
07-12-2005, 15:26
I appreciate everyone's input, and will keep working on my draft. This is essentially a rough draft and I would love to continue discussing further development of this issue.
The Most Glorious Hack
07-12-2005, 15:29
1.It must maintain accurate and honest records of all nuclear materials, used for any purpose.Might want to tighten this up. "Nuclear materials" are used all over the place, not just power generation and weapons production.
Wolfish
07-12-2005, 15:37
Might want to tighten this up. "Nuclear materials" are used all over the place, not just power generation and weapons production.

True - everything from glow-in-the-dark street signs to hospital equipment, surveyor and mining equipment - not to mention depleted uranium ammunition and such. It is a long list.
The Black New World
07-12-2005, 15:57
- Draft - United Nations Member Nuclear Materials Declaration Act

United Nations Member Nuclear Materials Declaration Act

RECOGNIZING that all sovereign states have the right to maintain, build, research, and trade nuclear materials, weapons, and energy;


THESE UNITED NATIONS DO HEREBY FIND AND DECLARE that all member states must abide by the following terms :
Standard.

1.It must maintain accurate and honest records of all nuclear materials, used for any purpose.
Why? Who would view these records.
2.It must not sell, trade, give a non-member state nuclear materials or research.
Again; why? It sounds like you're implying that non-member states can not be trusted. I'm not interested in a 'them and us' divide.
3.It will not attempt to prevent another member state from legally attaining nuclear materials or research.
Any member state? Including those who may want to fire them on you?
4.It may research new uses, and purposes of nuclear materials with other member states.
'Them and us'.

THESE UNITED NATIONS DO FURTHER DECLARE that

1.All nations must declare their intentions with the United Nations to research, purchase or trade, nuclear materials.
Declare to who?

2.All already nuclear nations will allow inspectors full access to all nuclear storage, maintenance, research, energy and weapons areas.
What inspectors, any inspectors?
3.Yearly every nation will submit nuclear materials, weapons, storage, and research inventories.
Who to?
4.Every forth year inspections will take place in random nuclear areas to ensure full compliance.
By who?

NOTING that all member nations found to not be in compliance of the above mentioned terms face sanctions ranging from, but not limited to economic or miltary. But also removal from THESE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS.
I think the bit about removal is illegal and, perhaps, military action. We are opposed to the use of economic sanctions.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the undersigned, having deposited their respective full powers, have signed the present Convention.
Superfluous.

Rose,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States
St Edmund
07-12-2005, 16:13
True - everything from glow-in-the-dark street signs to hospital equipment, surveyor and mining equipment - not to mention depleted uranium ammunition and such. It is a long list.

True, and that list even includes household smoke-detectors too...