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UN Parent’s Child Development
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights Strength: Severe Proposed by:CLF

Description: The United Nations,

-A- CONCERNED by the number of Parents who do not have basic information on Child Development,

-B- CONVINCED that the Parenting Education is essential for the development of every child worldwide and for his/her own future

-C- FULLY AWARE of the difference of parenting knowledge between member nations

-D- SEEKING to minimize the cost of the following clauses

-E- FULLY AWARE of the availability of voluntary and professional level help for the construction of these classes.


-1- STRONGLY URGES all nations to secure that each first time parent attend child development classes so that they may be well educated in child development. This can be integrated into National Education programs,

-2- ENCOURAGES STRONGLY all nations to secure for first time parents classes for child development,

-3- SUPPORTS operations which provide parents, child development classes which will provide a stronger foundation for the prosperity of a nation, and allows classes to be subsidized by non-profit organizations, businesses, and all government entities that will gain by having higher educated parental care.

-4- RECOMENDS all nations to be prudent by ensuring that these actions don’t undermine or reduce nutritional, health or clothing efforts

-5- ENCOURAGES all Nations to try to limit the cost induced by this resolution, by different means such as:


-5.1- Running the classes mentioned in this resolution with PhD Students in Child Development for the extrication of their Degree.

-5.2- Proposing some non-profit organization or some companies to graciously offer donations to the betterment of society through grants to the Child development programs offered by the Nation and Nation’s colleges and universities.

-6- ENCOURAGES all developed Nations to help developing Nations to implement this program, by different means such as:

-6.1- Sharing teachers and course outlines.

-6.2- Giving access to these nations to a low rate loan/bonds system, which will be repaid by the growth of the amount of growth in the socioeconomic sector.

Overreaching the UN's bounds. The UN's got no business in family affairs. Even if it did, though, this proposal would do nothing, as it lacks teeth.

We don't see any need to have, or advantage to be gained from, having PhD students involved in the teaching: Surely using experienced parents instead would be a better idea?

We don't see any need to have, or advantage to be gained from, having PhD students involved in the teaching: Surely using experienced parents instead would be a better idea?

I think the idea is that students on the PHD courses can learn more while teaching parents, and learning what parents have to say.

Although I have to admit I don't know what "extrication" means :}

the last thing we need is someone with a PhD and no life experience teaching this kinda class. you need someone like your nation's equivalent to the super nanny. other than that, i agree with Cluichstan, this is over-reaching the UN bounds. child rearing is not an international issue, and it is best left to national governments, or even better, family and social units.

I agree this is over reaching the UN's remit, but when has that stopped the UN before?

I agree this is over reaching the UN's remit, but when has that stopped the UN before?

Maybe now's a good point to stop... ;)

Maybe now's a good point to stop... ;)One always hope, I suppose.

But to be honest, we are always going to get people who don't give a damn about natsov. So hopefully we are always going to get people willing to give afformentioned people a political slap round the face.

One always hope, I suppose.

But to be honest, we are always going to get people who don't give a damn about natsov. So hopefully we are always going to get people willing to give afformentioned people a political slap round the face.

I've even developed an atuo-faceslapper for that very purpose. Even still, this doesn't even have to be swatted aside on natsov grounds. It can be discarded for its sheer retardation really.

We don't give a damn about national sovereignty but I don't see how this proposal would do any good.

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

We don't give a damn about national sovereignty but I don't see how this proposal would do any good.

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

Good, then you won't mind if Cluichstani forces invade your nation and replace your government with a puppet regime. ;)

Well I'm already a puppet of HotRodia… You'll have to ask him.

Good, then you won't mind if Cluichstani forces invade your nation and replace your government with a puppet regime. ;)

Like The Muppets? cause that would be SO COOL!!!

Like The Muppets? cause that would be SO COOL!!!

Excellent. Say hello to your new president.

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[From the HOCEK NSUN Nunciate e-mail system]

In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii (mtCObp)

To: HOCEK Conclave of Friendship, Conclave of Wisdom Liaison Office
From: HOCEK Conclave of Friendship, NSUN Nunciate
Subject: They're At It Again

Your Graces,

Recalling the proposed resolution we forwarded you earlier, the "Right to Divorce Act", attached under separate cover is a copy of the latest assault on HOCEK family law. This time it's coming from some delegation calling themselves representatives of the "Cerebral Liberation Front", or some such. Unlike the former, this one appears fairly toothless, may the Cute One be praised.

At this time, we are not planning to protest the latter proposal, in the belief that our resources are better spent marshelling support against the (in our assessment) far more destructive former one. We are, however, keeping an eye on it and will inform you should its status change.

Your humble servant,
NSUN Nunciate,
HOCEK Conclave of Friendship

UN Parent’s Child Development
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights Strength: Severe Proposed by:CLF

Description: The United Nations,

-A- CONCERNED by the number of Parents who do not have basic information on Child Development,

-B- CONVINCED that the Parenting Education is essential for the development of every child worldwide and for his/her own future

-C- FULLY AWARE of the difference of parenting knowledge between member nations

-D- SEEKING to minimize the cost of the following clauses

-E- FULLY AWARE of the availability of voluntary and professional level help for the construction of these classes.


-1- STRONGLY URGES all nations to secure that each first time parent attend child development classes so that they may be well educated in child development. This can be integrated into National Education programs,

-2- ENCOURAGES STRONGLY all nations to secure for first time parents classes for child development,

-3- SUPPORTS operations which provide parents, child development classes which will provide a stronger foundation for the prosperity of a nation, and allows classes to be subsidized by non-profit organizations, businesses, and all government entities that will gain by having higher educated parental care.

-4- RECOMENDS all nations to be prudent by ensuring that these actions don’t undermine or reduce nutritional, health or clothing efforts

-5- ENCOURAGES all Nations to try to limit the cost induced by this resolution, by different means such as:


-5.1- Running the classes mentioned in this resolution with PhD Students in Child Development for the extrication of their Degree.

-5.2- Proposing some non-profit organization or some companies to graciously offer donations to the betterment of society through grants to the Child development programs offered by the Nation and Nation’s colleges and universities.

-6- ENCOURAGES all developed Nations to help developing Nations to implement this program, by different means such as:

-6.1- Sharing teachers and course outlines.

-6.2- Giving access to these nations to a low rate loan/bonds system, which will be repaid by the growth of the amount of growth in the socioeconomic sector.

Eternal kawaii, don't worry, i suppse it's a joke related to the "IT ed act":p

Excellent. Say hello to your new president.


Wow - a perfect portrait of me. You are really good at this :}

Within the boundaries of what we call nations there are highly sophisticated beings called people which are actually required to make up a society and nation. This is an addressing of that very Idea. Yes, left to individual nations this is a novel idea and perhaps one that would shake the very fabric of society --meaning that the "Government" actually gives %$#* about the families and society and gives a means by which change for the better can occur.

Laugh all you want about keeping your people in the dark about child development. Laugh about the childen who might have become better people because they were being beaten half to death instead of talked to by their parent's who could have been educated about and shown to care about their children's development.

It lacks teeth because it doesn't need any. The real gripper is that it would begin a formula of construction within a nation that just might lead those nations supporting it a way away from poverty, crime, ignorance.

Now I know that I'm speaking to some intelligent people here. And I would think that the variety would speak with me. Some people don't have the chance to become educated about child development. But I ask
What is more important?

It's a nice speech. You didn't actually say much of anything but it was nice.

I'm not sure how you expect these lessons to stop abuse. Who is going to think 'well raping my child is wrong, perhaps I should talk to them instead' I seriously doubt any child development classes would stop an abuser. They like to control and abuse.

And you still haven't addressed the issue of indoctrination.

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

It's a nice speech. You didn't actually say much of anything but it was nice.

I'm not sure how you expect these lessons to stop abuse. Who is going to think 'well raping my child is wrong, perhaps I should talk to them instead' I seriously doubt any child development classes would stop an abuser. They like to control and abuse.

And you still haven't addressed the issue of indoctrination.

"Today, we're going to learn how not to rape your child."

"Oh, so that's what I do..."

----

Yeah, I still don't see this as being a UN issue.

Leave this to governmentsand parents. The UN has stepped one step too far on his. Shouldn't we be freeing ourselves, rather than entangling ourselves in red tape? The honorable member might like the idea, and so might a few others, but in the long run, a nationalised way of parenting can only decrease a country's and it's citizens culture. It seems like a bad idea.
optischer

The UN has stepped one step too far on his.
We haven't stepped anywhere. If you are going to do the anti-UN dance do it on a proposal that made it instead of a draft.

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

It won't stop abuse. It may curtail it. the indoctrination?
Let's see
uhmmmm
How bout
the parents attend classes
Lets make it manditory for first time parents
and suggested for others

Oh yes

there will always be the class clown
and also the 'one' who just won't learn
but there may be those who actually take something with them.


Parents send their children to school. That is manditory.
But bring up that parent's should go to school and everyone thinks that it's crazy
but who might benefit more?

Parents would want their children to do well in school so that they can grow up and be something.
You and those around you and your government would want parents to at least have the knowledge of child rearing available and essentially expected so that no one is left out in the cold 'so to speak.'

If you are going to do the anti-UN dance
I am not doing th anti-UN dance. I just meant that the UN has probably been a little too non-centrist, which is where I believe it should lie, although It seems to be owards the left slightly.

Suggesting classes to parents are going to be as succesful as handing around leaflets. Half of them will pick it up, like the wrapper, then be bored and know how to do the whole course, word for word, exam for exam, and come out with a piece of paper which says they are a good parent, which is evident in ther child.
Wouldn't it be better for the UN to set up a Kidscape like service to stop child abuse? NSPCC style charities would surely be funded by all governments and the UN.
Maybe you should take a breather, review the comments and edit your paper accordingly.
Optischet

UN Parent’s Child Development
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights Strength: Severe Proposed by:CLF

Description: The United Nations,

-A- CONCERNED by the number of Parents who do not have basic information on Child Development,

-B- CONVINCED that the Parenting Education is essential for the development of every child worldwide and for his/her own future

-C- FULLY AWARE of the difference of parenting knowledge between member nations

-D- SEEKING to minimize the cost of the following clauses

-E- FULLY AWARE of the availability of voluntary and professional level help for the construction of Child development classes.


-1- STRONGLY URGES all nations to secure that each first time parent are given adequate incentives to attend child development classes so that they may be well educated in child development. This can be integrated into National Education programs,

-2- ENCOURAGES STRONGLY all nations to secure for first time parents classes for child development,

-3- SUPPORTS operations which provide parents, child development classes which will provide a stronger foundation for the prosperity of a nation, and allows classes to be subsidized by non-profit organizations, businesses, and all government entities that will gain by having higher educated parental care.

-4- RECOMENDS all nations to be prudent by ensuring that these actions don’t undermine or reduce nutritional, health or clothing efforts

-5- ENCOURAGES all Nations to try to limit the cost induced by this resolution, by different means such as:


-5.1- Running the classes mentioned in this resolution with PhD Students in Child Development for the extrication of their Degree.

-5.2- Proposing some non-profit organization or some companies to graciously offer donations to the betterment of society through grants to the Child development programs offered by the Nation and Nation’s colleges and universities.

-6- ENCOURAGES all developed Nations to help developing Nations to implement this program, by different means such as:

-6.1- Sharing teachers and course outlines.

-6.2- Giving access to these nations to a low rate loan/bonds system, which will be repaid in middle term by the growth of the amount of taxes collected due to the growth socioeconomic sector.

Deja vu...

And still nothing to stop this being used as a tool of indoctrination…

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

And still nothing to stop this being used as a tool of indoctrination…

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World
agree here

also, to us, this is not a international issue and it is a bordeline national one at that. and also you didnt address the problem we posed before. the last thing we need is someone with a PhD and no life experience in raising children running this thing.

I don't see that draft being mandatory at all. And we maintain that the only useful thing that could (or should) be achieved is teaching parents about basic health principles (e.g. nutritional requirements, how to hold a baby so its neck doesn't snap) - and advice from medical professionals at the hospital when you have the kid, plus a few simple information leaflets, is perfectly adequate for this. If a parent is malevolent or neglectful, classes won't help that.

Within the boundaries of what we call nations there are highly sophisticated beings called people which are actually required to make up a society and nation. This is an addressing of that very Idea. Yes, left to individual nations this is a novel idea and perhaps one that would shake the very fabric of society --meaning that the "Government" actually gives %$#* about the families and society and gives a means by which change for the better can occur.

Laugh all you want about keeping your people in the dark about child development. Laugh about the childen who might have become better people because they were being beaten half to death instead of talked to by their parent's who could have been educated about and shown to care about their children's development.

It lacks teeth because it doesn't need any. The real gripper is that it would begin a formula of construction within a nation that just might lead those nations supporting it a way away from poverty, crime, ignorance.

Now I know that I'm speaking to some intelligent people here. And I would think that the variety would speak with me. Some people don't have the chance to become educated about child development. But I ask
What is more important?


I have to admit - my original oposition was based on the fact you were forcing it on people - that they HAD to attend classes.

But now that it is mostly optional, I have less objection to it :}

Generally I agree with the proposal, but do you really expect a "severe" improvement in human rights out of this? Seems mild to me...

I still think it's more of a moral decency proposal.

Rose,
UN representative,
The Black New World

We agree with BNW. how can something be deemed human rights when it practically takes away a parents right to raise their child how they want by saying 'you have to do it this way'?

OOC: Not to nitpick but it's TBlack. I'm English, you see.

OOC: sorry. some ppl have a habit of putting LA, not TLA too.