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UN delegates, please approve this proposal if you think the UN should be voting for this. Thank you.

The 5 Weekdays Work-week
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Developing Malaysia

Description: 1. The maximum standard full-time work-week shall be set at 5 weekdays. Nations shall remain free to set their work-weeks lower than this.

2. No one may be contractually obligated to work more than 5 weekdays per week, except for the following exemptions,
a ) military personnel
b ) civil defense forces
c ) civilian emergency response personnel
Excepting military personnel, these exemptions shall only apply during emergency situations.

3. No one may be contractually obligated to remain on the work-site without pay.

4. EVERY weekends will be the World Family Days and also for religion activities like Sunday Assembly.

5. On call hours shall count against the 40 hour limit.
(Referring to the UN Resolution #59 implemented on May 23 2004)

6. The 5 Weekday Work-week shall be implemented in a manner that does not reduce the standard of living of the workers. Nations shall enact the laws needed to comply with the 5 Weekday Work-week within 1 year of the passing of this resolution and they may phase in the changes over the course of up to 4 years. The necessary changes must be fully implemented within 5 years of the passing of this resolution.

7. In time of declared emergencies the national government may suspend this directive to any sector of the work force it deems essential to the effective running of the country for the duration of that emergency.

You should provide a link, too: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=weekdays.

It's possibly illegal, under a House of Cards violation. Also, I dislike the reference to 'Sunday Assembly': our holy day is on a Tuesday.

our holy day is on a Tuesday.
This problem could be solved by a day-off on Tuesday in certain nations like Gruenberg. As stated in the proposal: Nations shall remain free to set their work-weeks lower than this.

Additional: One of the purposes of this resolution is to let the emplyees share the weekends with their family. Beside able to tighten the family relationship, it also lets the employee rest so they can do better in their work during the weekdays. This will help in the World economic, eventually.

Ok...yet you make reference to weekends. And I'm still uneasy about the reference to Resolution #59.

Ok...yet you make reference to weekends. And I'm still uneasy about the reference to Resolution #59.
Actually the "additional" in my previous post wasn't related to your question. Excuse me for that...about the resolution #59, it was voted passes by the UN before but it wasn't proposed by me.

"RECALLING Resolution #3, #4, #34, #36, #67, and #457..."

This is becoming problematic. If those Resolutions are repealed, you've gutted the base of your own Resolution. Also, we start to run into issues for new proposals.

Currently, if you want to ban gay marriage, you have to repeal numerous Resolutions. Only a couple if you're talking about Resolutions that explicitly mention it; but a whole bunch if you have to Repeal every Resolution that references the few that deal explicitly with it.

A Proposal must be able to stand on its own even if all referenced Resolutions were struck from existance. If your Proposal "builds on" an existing Resolution, you're ammending that resolution. Excessive back referencing is not acceptable either. Create a new Proposal, don't just parrot existing ones. (see: Duplication)

Does your proposal stand on its own? Because they seem fairly strict on this rule.

Does your proposal stand on its own? Because they seem fairly strict on this rule.
My answer is, definitely YES. My proposal does stand on its own. The reference to the resolution #59 is just an addition to remind UN about the 40 Hour Work-week.

"A Proposal must be able to stand on its own even if all referenced Resolutions were struck from existance."

As stated, if the resolution #59 is being repealed anyhow in the future, my proposal is able to stand on its own.

No.

Two reasons. One, some people want or need to spend more then five days a week at work. Two: I don't think the UN should be used to fix problems with families especially not when it implies that those who aren't in 'families' don't need time off work.

I also find your reference to 'Sunday Assembly' offensive.

Giordano,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Alright, I'm willing to believe it stands on its own. Next: why is this is an issue the UN should be legislating on? People are restricted in how long they work in a week...why should they be restricted to when they can work? What about, for example, admins for computer networks? What about non-emergency medical personnel?

I don't think the UN should be used to fix problems with families especially not when it implies that those who aren't in 'families' don't need time off work.
"Fixing families problems" isn't this proposal's main purpose. The main purpose is increasing the basic welfare and improve the work quality. Eventually, helping the World economic.

What about, for example, admins for computer networks? What about non-emergency medical personnel?
After thinking for quite some time, I don't have an answer for that. Perhaps I should do some editions on the proposal later. Any of you would like to help me?

point 5 still concerns me. if you drop the reference to unr #59 that will solve the problem. anyway a five day (and a 40 hour week) is a given in most UN member states.

its also a given that all holy days (or religious festivals) don't fall over the weekend. if you can rewrite that part as

4. EVERY weekend will be the World Family Days and also for religious activities like worship and festivals. if a nations day of of worship and festivals falls outside the weekend they are free to set their own days for these.

also what do you mean by 'world family days'?

this looks like a pretty solid proposal so far but it will be better if you can make this more flexible and natsov friendly so it suits nations rather than the other way round.

regarding people who need to be on-call or work more than 40 hours a week i can sugest a few here:

* farmers
* military forces (as you've already mentioned)
* as well as emergency room staff, what about doctors and nursing staff?
* police officers

i'm sure others can think of more people but that should start you off

The 5 Weekdays Work-week
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Developing Malaysia

Description: 1. The maximum standard full-time work-week shall be set at 5 weekdays. Nations shall remain free to set their work-weeks lower than this.

2. No one may be contractually obligated to work more than 5 weekdays per week, except for the following exemptions,
a ) military personnel
b ) civil defense forces
c ) civilian emergency response personnel
Excepting military personnel, these exemptions shall only apply during emergency situations.

3. No one may be contractually obligated to remain on the work-site without pay.

4. EVERY weekends will be the World Family Days and also for religion activities like Sunday Assembly.

5. On call hours shall count against the 40 hour limit.
(Referring to the UN Resolution #59 implemented on May 23 2004)

6. The 5 Weekday Work-week shall be implemented in a manner that does not reduce the standard of living of the workers. Nations shall enact the laws needed to comply with the 5 Weekday Work-week within 1 year of the passing of this resolution and they may phase in the changes over the course of up to 4 years. The necessary changes must be fully implemented within 5 years of the passing of this resolution.

7. In time of declared emergencies the national government may suspend this directive to any sector of the work force it deems essential to the effective running of the country for the duration of that emergency.

Ok - discounting all the other issues, there is one problem with this.

Okay three problems, but the third is relatively minor.

First - shopping. Some parents work long hours, and can't do their weekly shopping during the week. If your proposal passes, and NO ONE is permitted to work weekends, then all of the shops will be closed. So where will parents buy food? Clothes? Other necessities of life when you have kids (or even when you don't have kids for that matter).

Second - the leisure industry. As someone who worked in it for a little while when I was younger, the leisure industry needs to be able to work weekends, otherwise it will collapse and shut down. Kids (for the most part) attend school during the week, and only have time to come out and play during the weekend. Further more most people take "long weekend" type holidays that would be totally messed up by your proposal. So while it might make families closer, it would destroy an ENTIRE section of industry.

Finally - being the Queen, I am not really permitted to not be The Queen. So even at weekends I have to be available for government business, even if it is not a national crisis.

I like the idea of the proposal, but it is almost entirely unworkable for certain industries.

Edit

Also - unless I am reading it wrong - doesn't this also shut hospitals down over the weekend?

Perhaps I should put the 5 weekdays work-week only for all the employees/workers except the private area (ex: private companies, shopping complex, etc) employees/workers. Does that make more sense?

Any more edition I should make in this proposal? Thank you for your help.

i think hospitals should not be tied to a five day week. they need to run 24/7.

Public transport also needs to run 7 days a week as well.

2. No one may be contractually obligated to work more than 5 weekdays per week, except for the following exemptions,
a ) military personnel
b ) civil defense forces
c ) civilian emergency response personnel and workers running essential public services

as tweaked this will cover jobs such as system admins, workers in the utility industries (water, gas, electricty etc) and essential workers in hospitals. i would also class a government as an essential public service

Yet another attempt at UN micromanagement... :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should put the 5 weekdays work-week only for all the employees/workers except the private area (ex: private companies, shopping complex, etc) employees/workers. Does that make more sense?
No, this does not make sense to me. If a worker wants a 5 day workweek, he or she should arrange with an employer to have a five day workweek--What's right for one is not right for everyone.

correct me if i am wrong, but i believe this is an direct violation of Res #59. its inclusion in the proposal is illegal, none the less, but this blocks one part of Res #59: the part allowing for people to work over 40 hours, and get just payment for it. if this resolution gets passed, it would block that, which violates the proposal rules