NationStates Jolt Archive


Should the UN be restructured

Optischer
19-11-2005, 11:54
Re-evaluation by the Optischerian Government
Gruenberg
19-11-2005, 11:58
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/872/crad45hk.png

However, we feel your suggestion would not be workable.

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The Black New World
19-11-2005, 13:38
OOC: It's illegal because the game would need to be recoded for it to be implemented. Why not help campaign against the IT Education Act?
_Myopia_
19-11-2005, 13:54
Why don't you post the text of your proposal?
The Lynx Alliance
19-11-2005, 14:00
and i put down this card
http://img112.echo.cx/img112/9943/readthestickies5la.jpg
do this, then think about submitting the proposal
Gruenberg
19-11-2005, 14:02
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Cobdenia
19-11-2005, 20:43
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/JimRad-Mac/ns/TATU.jpg
Kirisubo
19-11-2005, 20:51
if the honourable member can post up a draft of their proposal then we'll know for sure what we are dealing with.

i'm not so sure this is a games mechanics issue. micromanaging and fluffy propsals are getting through because its the will of the majority of voters and the fact they are being proposed in the first place.
Kirisubo
19-11-2005, 22:11
if you want to draft a proposal most people do it this way.

look at the un proposals in the queue to get an idea of a basic structure although most of them look like this.

e.g.

the generic proposal

category : (this is ususally decided later)
strength : (usually decided later)
proposed by : Optischer

Description :

<your text goes here. the more detailed and longer it is the better>


if you need help in writting a proposal you'll usually have help if you ask for it.

in the meantime a list of ideas will do.
Frisbeeteria
19-11-2005, 22:58
If you get your two endorsements and post a proposal that alters the UN in such a way, the proposal will be deleted and your nation will receive a warning. It's just that simple. You CANNOT restructure the UN through a UN proposal.

If you do it anyway, I will probably eject you from the UN for deliberate rulebreaking. Game Mechanics violations are one of the oldest violations of the UN rules. Discuss it here to your heart's content, but don't post it as a proposal.

Clear?
The Lynx Alliance
20-11-2005, 01:07
:mad: Please note that no pictures, or cards, or whatever the links are, are welcome on this issue. We would rather have credible solutions, options and challenges against my ideas.
Optischer
okay, i will type what my card means: READ THE STICKIES! in hear you will see there is rules for submitting a proposal. in these rules you will see that what you are proposing is a violation of one of those rules: the game mechanics rule. as fris said, you face ejection from the UN by ignoring this and going ahead with it.
Cobdenia
20-11-2005, 01:13
Mine meant: Nice idea, but not going to happen.

I posted a suggestion in technical abour six months ago that all the mod liked and agreed with, but as yet has not come into fruition (I'm sure mainly due to their workload). So even if the mods do want to restructure the UN, it wont happen for a long time, and I fairly sure they don't want to.
Galbadox
20-11-2005, 17:03
Optischer is comletely right, UN only delegate voting is the UN'S way of making sure it is in complete control!
Gruenberg
20-11-2005, 17:05
Optischer is comletely right, UN only delegate voting is the UN'S way of making sure it is in complete control!

So leave.
The Lynx Alliance
21-11-2005, 00:14
Optischer is comletely right, UN only delegate voting is the UN'S way of making sure it is in complete control!
that is because UN resolutions and business DOES NOT AFFECT NON-UN NATIONS.
sorry about that little outburst, but i am sick of repeating myself.
Forgottenlands
21-11-2005, 00:29
okay, i will type what my card means: READ THE STICKIES! in hear you will see there is rules for submitting a proposal. in these rules you will see that what you are proposing is a violation of one of those rules: the game mechanics rule. as fris said, you face ejection from the UN by ignoring this and going ahead with it.

Um - use img tag next time
Super-power
21-11-2005, 00:38
If by 'restructured' you mean 'disbanded,' then yes!
I loooove not being in the UN
The Lynx Alliance
21-11-2005, 00:46
If by 'restructured' you mean 'disbanded,' then yes!
I loooove not being in the UN
if you like not being in the UN, then dont post in the UN section of the forum....
Forgottenlands
21-11-2005, 01:14
if you like not being in the UN, then dont post in the UN section of the forum....

Um....lots of non-members post here. There's absolutely no problem with it. When they start flaming us, I'll take issue.
Cobdenia
21-11-2005, 01:24
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The Lynx Alliance
21-11-2005, 01:28
Um....lots of non-members post here. There's absolutely no problem with it. When they start flaming us, I'll take issue.
sorry, but i did take that as a flame.
Zojoji
21-11-2005, 02:03
:cool: I dunno...

I'm a UN Delegate who's only seen a couple of Resolutions passed, so I haven't noticed any effect on my nation or region yet. I received a telegram stating that some laws were enacted to reflect the Food Res. which would bring my nation into compliance. But I believe we were already there, so no changes were noticed.

I'm not currently seeing a problem with the UN, but I guess everything can be revamped or fine-tuned somewhat. I'll stay undecided until I get some more information.:D
Quadramos
21-11-2005, 18:40
I've heard a rumour Optischers going to quit the UN and not come on for a long time
The Black New World
21-11-2005, 18:43
…so?
Quadramos
21-11-2005, 18:48
so that must mean he's going to make some puppets, and use them to work his way around the site!!!!
The Black New World
21-11-2005, 18:49
Aye.
Quadramos
21-11-2005, 18:59
Hey diddle diddle, I've got a riddle, What is my real name.
It's under Quadramas, and it's not hematamos, If you find out you've won the game.
Quadramos
Order of the OPTE
Yelda
21-11-2005, 19:01
Hey diddle diddle, I've got a riddle, What is my real name.
It's under Quadramas, and it's not hematamos, If you find out you've won the game.
Quadramos
Order of the OPTE
I don't care.
Forgottenlands
21-11-2005, 20:08
so that must mean he's going to make some puppets, and use them to work his way around the site!!!!

Personality - especially for trolls - is fairly easy to gauge. Add on that the mods have IP tracking capabilities so if several people with similar opinions, similar style, similar failure to follow the rules, all hailing from the same IP come on here, I suspect that IP will not be returning. Might take a bit longer to deal with, but we aren't going to have to put up with this crap indefinitely.

Edit: I just have to play this
http://test256.free.fr/fris2.jpg
The Lynx Alliance
21-11-2005, 22:19
i have worked out what the problem is: the fact that the UN is a volentary debating/volentary voting entity. now if it were compulsory to vote and get in on the debates...... hang on, that would mean it would get more cluttered here than it already is... scratch that