NationStates Jolt Archive

this is in response to the always appearing resolutions about the death penalty.
PLEASE REFER TO POST #8 FOR 2ND DRAFT
Tourist Information Act
Category: Human Rights (I think, can’t see where else it would fit)
Strength: (I don’t know, I would say significant)
Proposed by: The Lynx Alliance

Description:
NOTING that whilst the UN has set out guidelines of the workings of national judicial systems, the sentencing is usual left up to individual nations,

ON THE PRINCIPAL of 'Ignorance of the law is no excuse',

IDENTIFYING that there are as many sets of laws as there is countries,

IDENTIFYING that many nations use the death penalty, and many oppose the death penalty

WE, The Lynx Alliance, seek the establishment of an agency in each nation to provide information to be available to citizens traveling abroad to cover:

1) Laws and the subsequent possible penalties in each country
2) Knowledge of customs that might offend and lead to penalties not in the law system
3) Information about any dangers in other countries, limited to, but including: diseases, unauthorized armed forces, native flora and fauna that could be harmful
4) The rights and responsibilities of representing their nation abroad

We see our citizens abroad as being un-official ambassadors, reflecting on our nation, and the same for tourists entering our nation. This information needs to be supplied, in order not only to ensure national image, but to protect those of our nations abroad.

this is just a draft, open to suggestions atm.

this is in response to the always appearing resolutions about the death penalty.



this is just a draft, open to suggestions atm.

How do you plan to deal with language issues?

maybe have basic translation books available at international airports. it would probably come under the customs section. the act mainly deals with citizens leaving the country, not coming in.

(OOC: kind of a real life example of this is the Department of Foreign Affairs and Travel website here in australia. it gives advice to those traveling outside australia)

ON THE PRINCIPAL of 'Ignorance of the law is no excuse',
Change it to NOTING the principle that ignorance of a law does not entitle you to break such a law

IDENTIFYING that there are as many sets of laws as there is countries,

IDENTIFYING that many nations use the death penalty, and many oppose the death penalty

Not that keen on IDENTIFYING. I'd change it to AFFIRMS or NOTING

WE, The Lynx Alliance, seek the establishment of an agency in each nation to provide information to be available to citizens traveling abroad to cover
Drop the Lynx alliance; you'll be done for branding. And I'm not that keen on the use of an agency, as it would cost too much to cover every nation. I'd suggest:

MANDATES that all nations must provide in their Embassy's, Consulates, Consulates-General, Legations and other relevent government institutions situated outside of their nations, information pertaining to the following in their nation in the language or languages of the local population:

1) Laws and the subsequent possible penalties in each country
2) Knowledge of customs and other acts that might offend the local populace
3) Information about any dangers in other countries including, but not limited to: diseases, unauthorized armed forces & terrorist groups, and native flora & fauna that could be harmful
4) Information about the local culture and languages


Point 2 struck me as a bit vague; I don't think you needed the thing about punishments. Point 4 was also a bit vague, so I changed it!


We see our citizens abroad as being un-official ambassadors, reflecting on our nation, and the same for tourists entering our nation. This information needs to be supplied, in order not only to ensure national image, but to protect those of our nations abroad.

Unneccessary.

The Palentine Tourim Board, regularly warns tourists of dos and don'ts. After all Gambling is one of our industries, we want all those lovely greenbacks...err tourists to come visit us. The biggest warning we have for tourists is also a selling point.

"Visit the Palentine, our dolphins swear like drunken sailors!"

maybe have basic translation books available at international airports. it would probably come under the customs section. the act mainly deals with citizens leaving the country, not coming in.

(OOC: kind of a real life example of this is the Department of Foreign Affairs and Travel website here in australia. it gives advice to those traveling outside australia)

Okay - that just makes it a thousand times worse.

I have to provide information about EVERY NATION in the NSUN? Who is going to pay for me to research all this? Who is going to provide the staff to do this? It will take a long even with an army of staff, so how long do you think it will take with the staff I have free? (One woman named Sarah who is the part time head of the Tourist Information Board as well as a part time firefighter)

Seriously - this is never going to work.

Cobdenia: will take your points into concideration and make changes. however, terrorist groups come under unauthorized armed forces. i deliberatly put it that way so as not to use 'terrorist' since it is such a debatable term. we will also leave in the last part, because it is there for emphasis. thanks for the advice though

Pallatium: most of the information would be sought out by the foreign affairs department anyway, for when they send offical ambassador and other officials abroad anyway. as for the language thing, most newsagents, both within nations and abroad sell translation books anyway

Tourist Information Act
Category: Human Rights (I think, can’t see where else it would fit)
Strength: (I don’t know, I would say significant)
Proposed by: The Lynx Alliance

Description:
NOTING that whilst the UN has set out guidelines of the workings of national judicial systems, the sentencing is usual left up to individual nations,

ON THE PRINCIPAL that ignorance of a law does not entitle you to break such a law,

AFFIRMING that there are as many sets of laws as there is countries,

NOTING that many nations use the death penalty, as well as other punishments that are not universal

MANDATES that all nations must provide in their Embassy's, Consulates, Consulates-General, Legations and other relevent government institutions situated outside of their nations, information pertaining to the following in their nation in the language or languages of the local population:


1) Laws and the subsequent possible penalties in each country
2) Knowledge of customs and other acts that might offend the local populace
3) Information about any dangers in other countries, limited to, but including: diseases, unauthorized armed forces, native flora and fauna that could be harmful
4) Information about the local culture and languages
5) The rights and responsibilities of citizens representing their nation abroad

We see our citizens abroad as being un-official ambassadors, reflecting on our nation, and the same for tourists entering our nation. This information needs to be supplied, in order not only to ensure national image, but to protect those of our nations abroad.

2nd draft, with Cobdenia's suggestions. kept point 4, but as point 5 and altered for clarification, moded the DP line to include other punisments, removed opposing

any other suggestions before i submit this?

Yes.

Embassy's --> Embassies
relevent --> relevant

HR, Significant? Wouldn't have put it there myself.

Pallatium: most of the information would be sought out by the foreign affairs department anyway, for when they send offical ambassador and other officials abroad anyway. as for the language thing, most newsagents, both within nations and abroad sell translation books anyway

I would disagree. Firstly - diplomats are mostly above the law (under Diplomatic Immunity), and secondly you are asking me to provide information about every other nation in the world, even nations I have never sent ambassedors to and have no idea how to get the information.
Then you are asking me to provide it to anyone that wants it, and you don't mention anything about whether I can charge them or not (can I?). If I can, it's not so bad cause I can recoup all my costs from anyone who wants to go abroad, but if I can't then my government is pretty much going bankrupt.

for convience and practicality especially if a government hasn't a lot of enbassies around the world i would suggest an electronic library based in the UN.

all a nation needs to to is provide information on their own country.

this could be accessed via the internet with the documents being in the most common world languages (english, german and french for example).

this would also cut down on the costs of printing these booklets at a local level.

But what if you don't have the technology?

Pallatium: cost will be up to each countries discretion. most would see to it was free, or otherwise factor it into taxes.

Kirisubo: that would be similar to ULC and would almost be House of Carding

Cobdenia: what do you do about the other tech-based resolutions?

But what if you don't have the technology?

in that case you need things printed on paper.

for example if Kirisubo set up an embassy in Cobdenia they would supply booklets about Kirisubo in the local or most common language.

this would be in addtion to the central on-line library back in UN HQ.

Take out 2 and 4 of the agency suggestion. It's undefinable

Take out 2 and 4 of the agency suggestion. It's undefinable
you must be reading the original. if you read the rewrite, it would be a bit better. as it is, it was deliberatly done like that so it could be left to the nation's discretion

Cobdenia: what do you do about the other tech-based resolutions?

They either don't effect us, or require another nation to have the technology, or are ignorable GA proposals

Not to jump up and down like a spoiled kid, but
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449936