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ARTICLE II: Special Cases

Section A: If a nation is trying to comply with the resolution, but having trouble, it may apply for a time extension, but must demonstrate significant need. Legitimate significant needs are extensive damage to infrastructure or economy because of:
Natural disasters
War
Severe economic depression
If significant need is established, an appropriate time extension relative to need will be granted.

As per Article II of the Fossil Fuel Reduction Act, a time extension is granted to those who demonstrante a a "significant need". While many nations would love to support the enviorment, it seems that their efforts to support it may cause great harm to their nations in the long run, with many predictions suggesting poverty in 45 years. Poverty is a bad thing, so Article II, Section A provides for time extensions, to give nations time to rebuild before contiuning to reduce pollution.

To streamlime procedures to help nations who have a "significant need" get the time extension needed to help rebuild and get out of the "significant need", a committe has been set up, chaired by me, Vicki-Y, SLI Sector ambassdor to the UN. This committe will examine applications sent to me, and will then vote to accept or decline the application.

1. Name of Country (For Documenation Purposes)

2. Name of "Significant Need" (For reference to the "need")

3. Describe the "Signifcant Need":

a. Type of "Signifcant Need" [A Signifcant Need is defined, as per Resolution #126 as "extensive damage to infrastructure or economy". This damage has to be caused by either natural disasters, war, or severe economic depression]

b. Provide background information (including references to external articles if possible)

c. Describe the present state and condition

4. Time Extension Applied For

Once the application is submitted, we read it and approve or decline the application. Once it is approved, the time extension is granted immeadily, giving you time to repair your nation. We hope this procedure will help out the UN.

The application is renewable, just in case the "signifcant need" has not gone away, despite all attempts to get out.

We also are looking for committe members to join this committe to help alleviate my workload, and help the UN out as well. Currnetly, I'm the only person on the committe, and it will be hard work for me.



SECERT (TO ALL HATERS OF THE FOSSIL FUEL REDUCTION ACT):

You hate the Fossil Fuel Reduction Act? So do us! This is why we did this. This procedure, thought up by Grunberg and me, is to be used in case the repeal efforts for FFRA fails. It did. While repeal efforts are good, how will you avoid damage to your ecomony during the meantime. Noncompliance is the only answer, but you don't want to be caught. This is how you do it. Just say your "signifcant need", fill out the application, and it will be accepted. Everything. Just don't make it silly. I don't want pesky enviromentalists to know about this. They'll just scream.

Also, don't worry about that time waiver nonsenese. Ask for a small, not noticeable number, like 5-10 years. You can always renew the application by resubmitting it and having us accept it again, so what the point of asking for an unreasonable amount of time? ;) You are techincally given an unlimited time waiver.

And with unlimited time, you do not have to worry about fufilling the UN resolution! You have unlimited time ot complete the resolution's goal, and you can procedde as slow as you want (blaming your slowness on the "significant need").

If you do not have a "signifcant need", you can just lie, and we'll accept it. But fear nobody would accept that? Well, I can help manufcature a "signifcant need" for you (know what I mean?). Just call me and lay me a few creds, and I'll see what I can do.

Also, join the committe. Staff it with our supporters, and provide it will legimenancy.

This is our chance to stand up for International Federalism! Let's do it! Nations of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!

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1. Name of Country: United Socialist States of Assatru

2. Name of "Significant Need" Economy and area effected by flooding and mudslides.

3. Describe the "Signifcant Need": There has been extensive flooding to the nation of Assatru as well as its neighbors The Dominion of Albertiana and Anzyria. In Assatru, a state called Victoria is under extreme flooding and under threat of mudslides.

a. Type of "Signifcant Need": Natural Disaster, flooding and mudslides. Has affected the economy and at least 11 towns and villages in Assatru alone.

b. Provide background information: Flooding started along the Sucum river near the Albertiana-Anzyria-Assatru border. Flooding has been extensive causing nearly 500 deaths in all three nations so far. Limited aid so far, except for two nations. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=453349 link
c. Describe the present state and condition: Searching for survivors, beginning to rebuild.

4. Time Extension Applied For: Three years! This long to bring up the economy of Assatru, and to the affected area and the neighbors Albertiana and Anzyria. In three years the area should be able to be ready to enact this resolution.

I'd love to be part of the committee. How do I do it?

Assatru: We have examined the natural disaster and we accept the application. Therefore, the time wavier of three years shall start now.

I'd love to be part of the committee. How do I do it?

You say, "I'd love to be part of the committee." That is how you join.

Welcome aboard, Habardia! I hope you plan to join more UN committes, they always seem a bit inactive, know what I mean?

The Committe just discuss and vote on application for time waviers. It then accepts or declines the applications.

Thank you.

I would like to ask;

In the calendar I use, for every RL day I pretend that about 3-4 months have gone by which equals a year in about 3 RL days.

So, would that go by my calendar, so 9 RL days to fall in line with the resolution, or another way? If you could answer that it would be helpful.

Alright, great and I do plan to join more commitees. So how does the voting take place, through telegrams? Or is there another forum for this kind of thing?

Alright, great and I do plan to join more commitees. So how does the voting take place, through telegrams? Or is there another forum for this kind of thing?

SLI, should I add a committee forum to our Peacekeeping forum?

To streamlime procedures to help nations who have a "significant need" get the time extension needed to help rebuild and get out of the "significant need", a committe has been set up, chaired by me, Vicki-Y, SLI Sector ambassdor to the UN.

You can't do that! Committees "are staffed by mystical beings that instantly spring into existance and live only to serve on said committee". You didn't spring in existance for that reason, you already existed, and you don't show any signs of being mystical. No, the cloud machine won't help you there, nor the fairy wings.

Got you there, mate.

You can't do that! Committees "are staffed by mystical beings that instantly spring into existance and live only to serve on said committee". You didn't spring in existance for that reason, you already existed, and you don't show any signs of being mystical. No, the cloud machine won't help you there, nor the fairy wings.

Got you there, mate.

So IGNORE it. Seems a bit pissy to stomp on a perfectly good RP opportunity.

In any case, this isn't a UN committee: it's not specified in the resolution. This is an SLI Sector initiative. So thanks, but no thanks.

So IGNORE it. Seems a bit pissy to stomp on a perfectly good RP opportunity.

In any case, this isn't a UN committee: it's not specified in the resolution. This is an SLI Sector initiative. So thanks, but no thanks.
Agree. Why someone would want to stop other nations from enjoying the experience is beyond me. It doesn't harm anyone, and if someone doesn't want to be a part of it, they can just, well, not be a part of it. Don't ruin it for other, I say.

SLI, should I add a committee forum to our Peacekeeping forum?

Why not?

You can't do that! Committees "are staffed by mystical beings that instantly spring into existance and live only to serve on said committee". You didn't spring in existance for that reason, you already existed, and you don't show any signs of being mystical. No, the cloud machine won't help you there, nor the fairy wings.

Got you there, mate.

No. As Gruenberg said, this is a seperate commitee, not started in the resolution, but sponsered by me, Vicki-B-SLI-2 (also leader of SLI Sector).

Plus, its a great RP oppurnity. There are very little UN roleplaying and I see this as a way to support it and make it more popluar.

Thank you.

I would like to ask;

In the calendar I use, for every RL day I pretend that about 3-4 months have gone by which equals a year in about 3 RL days.

So, would that go by my calendar, so 9 RL days to fall in line with the resolution, or another way? If you could answer that it would be helpful.

Time is different by every nation. I usually stick to 1 RL day means 1 NS Day, as most people, but your time is different indeed.

But I don't think a standard time varaible will be popluar, so you decide how long the extension lasts...9 RL days or 3 RL years. Up to you!

So there's gonna be a new forum in Peacekeeping? I'd appreciate if you kept me posted.

So IGNORE it. Seems a bit pissy to stomp on a perfectly good RP opportunity.

In any case, this isn't a UN committee: it's not specified in the resolution. This is an SLI Sector initiative. So thanks, but no thanks.

Sorry to spoil the fun then. I didn't see this as a good RP opportunity, more a bit of teasing from people who don't like certain UN resolutions. In any case, it's a bit silly, because what's the point in examining those "applications" when you don't have any formal power to decide on those applications anyway? RP all you want, but there are probably loads of better ways than this one. YMMV.

Sorry to spoil the fun then. I didn't see this as a good RP opportunity, more a bit of teasing from people who don't like certain UN resolutions. In any case, it's a bit silly, because what's the point in examining those "applications" when you don't have any formal power to decide on those applications anyway? RP all you want, but there are probably loads of better ways than this one. YMMV.

No, we don't have any formal power to decide on them. There's nothing to stop us from debating the merits of particular approaches to - yes, I admit - non-compliance. We won't be 'declaring ourselves immune', as clearly we don't have the authority to do that. But you remember Axis Nova's twattery in the wake of PoSP: putting something on record is a counter to that sort of RP, or to other 'you can't do that because you're a UN member' accusations.

Sorry to spoil the fun then. I didn't see this as a good RP opportunity, more a bit of teasing from people who don't like certain UN resolutions. In any case, it's a bit silly, because what's the point in examining those "applications" when you don't have any formal power to decide on those applications anyway? RP all you want, but there are probably loads of better ways than this one. YMMV.

The reason is that nations who send the applications are secertly trying to not comply with the resolution. Non-compliance is fun, because it shows the weaknesses of UN resolutions while demonstaring your haterd of the law. (A great way to show disrespect for a resolution is not to accept it, plain and simple.)

This is a committie rp, which is pretty rare IMHO. I don't think RP should involve just "War, war, war!" It should involve real diplomacy, and this is a great place to do it. UN RPs are not popluar yet, but I hope to make them popluar real soon.

Plus, those applications are justified. As per the resolution, if there is a significant need, then one can get a time waiver because of the need. We are just helping nations with signifcant needs out.

This is a committie rp, which is pretty rare IMHO. I don't think RP should involve just "War, war, war!" It should involve real diplomacy, and this is a great place to do it. UN RPs are not popluar yet, but I hope to make them popluar real soon.

Exactly. And why someone ould want to go around spoiling other people's fun is simply beyond me.

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OOC: So who's willing to let me go to war with them in order to apply for an extension? We could "fight" by having dodgeball teams battle it out in a neutral nation. The Second Great Dodgeball War, if you will.:D

SECERT:

1. Make it an IC Secert reference.

2. I would have tried, but I don't want to be accused by the international community again for being a warmonger. Try getting someone else?

New Fourm for The Committe:

http://s14.invisionfree.com/FFRA_Applications/index.php?act=idx

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You have got your ideas wrong. Gruenburg probably has a good reason for opposing the Fossil Fuels act, but it's time we caught up with tommorow, instead of heading backwards in the smog of todsy. Our economies will grow stronger if we use alternative sources. Which explains my countries Fast-Reactor Nuclear power stations. While we don't like fossil fuels, we aren't going to chop of a lifline to the economy, we're researching fusion and are willing to auction off how to get succesful nuclear fusion when we have progressed. In the meantime, fusion research may be auctioned now and then.
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