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Require Homosexuality

Croucher-Dieker
25-10-2005, 23:40
While I understand that this resolution has no chance of advancing, I certainly would appreciate support of it.

Also, I want to make sure I say this at this point...the resolution was tongue-in-cheek. While I do support homosexuality in every way, I have nothing against heterosexuals or heterosexuality.

Thank you for your consideration,

jasonc_22
Prime Minister of Croucher-Dieker
Pallatium
25-10-2005, 23:42
Could you post the text here? So that we can see it?
Croucher-Dieker
25-10-2005, 23:45
of course, the following is the resolution text:


Require Homosexuality
THIS RESOLUTION serves to promote understanding and acceptance of an important minority group.

WE HOLD IN CONTENTION that homosexuals and homosexual acts are currently inappropriately regarded as immoral, disgusting, and opposed to the general good of society and that this situation should be resolved in any way possible.

SO, WHEREAS homosexuality is currently looking upon negatively in many parts of the world and

WHEREAS discrimination against homosexuals is a crime against humanity and

WHEREAS it is common knowledge the more often a person comes in contact with something, the more comfortable that person becomes with it and

WHEREAS as long as safe-sex guidelines are followed, same-sex acts poses no risk to those who engage in it and

WHEREAS same-sex contact provides pleasure for those who engage in it therefore be it

RESOLVED that all persons between the ages of 18 and 25 will be required to engage in same-sex contact for at least a portion of those years and be it further

RESOLVED that such homosexual contact be promoted and encouraged by all levels of government with tax incentives and rebates.
Venerable libertarians
26-10-2005, 00:32
Pursuant to your starting of this thread may I highlight the following.....


Sexual Freedom
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Armstrongonia

Description: What goes on between two (or more) consenting adults in the privacy of their homes should not be the concern of the state unless it is neccesary to enquire about the afore mentioned activities for medical reasons (e.g. if the individuals wish to give blood etc.).

Votes For: 2,538
Votes Against: 318

Implemented: Thu Mar 13 2003

and.......


Gay Rights
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Kundu

Description: WHEREAS it has been clearly witnessed there is an outspoken minority who wish to oppress gays.

We, the People's Republic of Kundu and the other peoples of the world wishing for the preservation of freedom and the respect of all hereby resolve that all member nations of the United Nations must pass laws protecting people from discrimination in all parts of life. We also resolve that gay marriages be protected and endorsed by law in the member nations.

Votes For: 12,705
Votes Against: 7,734

Implemented: Sat May 3 2003
and.......


Rights of Minorities and Women
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Amsterdam junior

Description: The UN should recognize that all people are created equal. The matter of race, sex, religion or sexual preference should not make anyone less equal. These are inalienable rights of all UN nation citizens.

ARTICLE I- No one race or culture is better than another.

ARTICLE II- Males and Females should be treated as equals. Whether it be in the workplace or at home.

ARTICLE III- Not a single religion or belief is better or more right than another.

ARTICLE IV- One should have the right to express their love for a member of the same sex.

Votes For: 12,055
Votes Against: 6,998

Implemented: Sat Nov 20 2004
and............



Freedom of Conscience
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Ecopoeia

Description: We, the United Nations, recognise that freedom of conscience is a fundamental human right that transcends national borders and note with regret that the governments of some member states persecute and commit acts of violence against those who merely express beliefs or thoughts that are not state-approved.

Accordingly, we hereby:

1) DEFINE a ‘prisoner of conscience’ as a person who is detained or imprisoned, not for use of, nor encouragement to use, violence; not for openly supporting nor recommending hatred for racial, religious, sexual or similar reasons to provoke people to discriminate, or to be hostile or violent; but for their political, religious or other beliefs, or their ethnic origin, gender, sexuality, colour or similarly unjustifiable reasons; and accordingly

INSIST that all member states immediately and unconditionally release any prisoners of conscience they are currently detaining and

PROHIBIT member states from detaining prisoners of conscience in the future.

2) DEFINE a ‘disappearance’ as an instance when a person has been taken into custody by government authorities or by an armed political group, when this person’s whereabouts and wellbeing are kept secret without the full, informed, uncoerced consent of the individual in question; and accordingly

INSIST that any institution or group holding such an individual to reveal the whereabouts and condition of the ‘disappeared’ person.

3) CONDEMN extrajudicial executions by governments, killings caused by the unnecessary use of lethal force by law enforcement officials and killings of civilians in direct or indiscriminate attacks by governments or armed political groups.

Votes For: 9,892
Votes Against: 4,179

Implemented: Wed Aug 3 2005
and..........


The Sex Education Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Love and esterel

Description: The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Lack of quality sex education can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has two important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES:
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18-years; and
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment

Votes For: 10,048
Votes Against: 3,921

Implemented: Tue Aug 23 2005

Considering the Above highlighted resolutions i recon we have it covered.
Shazbotdom
26-10-2005, 00:37
Pursuant to your starting of this thread may I highlight the following.....

Considering the Above highlighted resolutions i recon we have it covered.

I second that motion.

All those in favor signify by says I!
The Frozen Chosen
26-10-2005, 01:05
I would encourage the honorable delegates from Venerable Libertarians and Shazbotdam to reread to proposal. It is most certainly not redundant. Though it is in contradition of UNR 7.

Nicely written and a great gag Croucher. Too bad I can't support it...(see resolution 7, that's my stance)
Venerable libertarians
26-10-2005, 01:22
I would encourage the honorable delegates from Venerable Libertarians and Shazbotdam to reread to proposal. It is most certainly not redundant. Though it is in contradition of UNR 7.

Nicely written and a great gag Croucher. Too bad I can't support it...(see resolution 7, that's my stance)
Well ok then! lets take a point by point look at this......

THIS RESOLUTION serves to promote understanding and acceptance of an important minority group. As do the Existing Resolutions i have mentioned.

WE HOLD IN CONTENTION that homosexuals and homosexual acts are currently inappropriately regarded as immoral, disgusting, and opposed to the general good of society and that this situation should be resolved in any way possible. However the quoted resolutions make it impossible for any UN Nation to harrass a person for being Gay. No Matter where you are from you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how ignorant.

SO, WHEREAS homosexuality is currently looking upon negatively in many parts of the world and

WHEREAS discrimination against homosexuals is a crime against humanity and

WHEREAS it is common knowledge the more often a person comes in contact with something, the more comfortable that person becomes with it and

WHEREAS as long as safe-sex guidelines are followed, same-sex acts poses no risk to those who engage in it and

WHEREAS same-sex contact provides pleasure for those who engage in it therefore be it So whereas too many whereases can be used in a proposal and would be better merged into one paragraph and whereas this proposal is all statement rather than actually proposing anything.......

RESOLVED that all persons between the ages of 18 and 25 will be required to engage in same-sex contact for at least a portion of those years and be it further At Last! something actually being proposed which unfortunately is counteracting on my freedom of choice or rather the freedom not to engage in homosexual activity. This is no better than reverse nazism!

RESOLVED that such homosexual contact be promoted and encouraged by all levels of government with tax incentives and rebates.erm! i dont think so. In the same way as i do not offer tax breaks if you are openly Straight... "Hey buddy! are you straight? here have a tax break!"

In summary, I am not Anti gay. I support gay marriage and relationships in my Nation as much as I support Straight. What you are proposing is just not cricket!:D
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
26-10-2005, 01:40
of course, the following is the resolution text:

THIS RESOLUTION serves to promote understanding and acceptance of an important minority group..


What makes this group any move important than any other group? Also who says this is a minority group? As just why are they considered such and by who.

With 2/3 of the nations outside the UN we inside the UN don't need another one covering the same thing for this so called 'important minority group'...

We feel this is a separate issue for each nation to deal with based on the desires of it's citizens not the UN. So each to their own in this matter as we already have enough to cover it in place...... Thus many of those noted need to be repealed so that nations can serve their people not the UN.
Waterana
26-10-2005, 01:53
Forcing hetrosexuals to be homosexual is just as disgustingly wrong as forcing homosexuals to be hetrosexuals.

Think of the misery in times past when homosexuals were forced by society to act as hetrosexuals and go against everything they knew themselves to be. Why would you want to inflict that on hetrosexuals as well?

Each person knows within themselves which sex they are attracted to and should be left alone to live their lives as they wish to, with whoever they wish to. A persons sexuality is nobody elses business.
Soviettski Soyuz
26-10-2005, 03:17
This is rediculous. My proposals are thrown away, tossed aside, and completely looked over. Where as proposals that have nothing to do with anything remotly important are left to gain support? Even the name of the proposal is rediculous, "Require Homosexuality". REQUIRE? I have nothing against homosexuals, I am not racist or sexist. The people that make me mad are people who expect special treatment for something so trivial. My position on marriage is as follows: there should be NO marriage. There should only be civil unions. Two people of any sex, race, age (within reason) should be allowed to be united under the law. This proposal however, is a perfect example of people trying to acheive special treatment for something that shouldn't be rewarded or punished. It shouldn't matter weather or not someone is gay, straight, black, white, asian, hispanic. The point is, by giving some groups of people special treatment over others, you start the whole circle of predjudice all over again.
Croucher-Dieker
26-10-2005, 03:55
please folks..no need to be overly dramatic...


additionally....the resolution certainly isn't redundant...i think it does things that have nothing to do with anything else we've passed.

oh, also...attacting the structuring isn't needed....proper resolution structure would demand that many "whereas's", but like i said..it isn't a big deal

j
Enn
26-10-2005, 07:29
What category is it under? 'Cause if it's Human Rights, it'll go pretty quickly. Forcing someone to commit sexual acts can not be considered supporting Human Rights, regardless of the reasoning.
Pallatium
26-10-2005, 09:56
But no house of cards violations, so I say it is worth supporting :}

(ooc - I know, sarcasm does not become me)

(ooc - but I am so good at it)
The Most Glorious Hack
26-10-2005, 10:03
Emphasis added:
Grossly Offensive

If you want to execute left-handed men named "Earl" in your country, that's fine. Don't go yammering about it in a Proposal. Yes, this includes screwing with a 'majority' group. Killing all whites is just as bad as killing all jews. Or blacks. Or poor people. Things such as eliminating "all rights for $group", forced deportation of said group and the like fall under this too.Mandating discrimination against a majority group (straights, in this case) is just as illegal as mandating discrimination against a minority group. Furthermore, this Proposal violations previous Resolutions that protect the sexual freedom of all members of the UN.

Undeniably illegal.
Pallatium
26-10-2005, 10:07
Emphasis added:
Mandating discrimination against a majority group (straights, in this case) is just as illegal as mandating discrimination against a minority group. Furthermore, this Proposal violations previous Resolutions that protect the sexual freedom of all members of the UN.

Undeniably illegal.

Not to wade hip-deep in to an arguement I really don't care about, but where does it discriminate against hetrosexuals? It doesn't say you can't have hetro contact during those years. Infact it doesn't say anything about hetrosexuality at all.
The Most Glorious Hack
26-10-2005, 10:16
where does it discriminate against hetrosexuals? It doesn't say you can't have hetro contact during those years. Infact it doesn't say anything about hetrosexuality at all.Really?

RESOLVED that all persons between the ages of 18 and 25 will be required to engage in same-sex contact for at least a portion of those years Forcing heterosexuals to engage in homosexual activity isn't discriminatory?

Nevermind the fact that it forces people to have sex who might not want to do so regardless of what sex it's with.
Pallatium
26-10-2005, 11:05
Really?

Forcing heterosexuals to engage in homosexual activity isn't discriminatory?

Nevermind the fact that it forces people to have sex who might not want to do so regardless of what sex it's with.

Right... I would just call that wrong - the discrimination part never occurred to me :}
Tekania
26-10-2005, 12:30
Not to wade hip-deep in to an arguement I really don't care about, but where does it discriminate against hetrosexuals? It doesn't say you can't have hetro contact during those years. Infact it doesn't say anything about hetrosexuality at all.

I'm sure once we get that "All homosexuals are forced to engage in Heterosexual activity" Resolution passed, it would not be discrimintory either...
Pallatium
26-10-2005, 12:32
I'm sure once we get that "All homosexuals are forced to engage in Heterosexual activity" Resolution passed, it would not be discrimintory either...

Ok - I get it :}
Forgottenlands
27-10-2005, 00:31
My entire concept of International Federalism at a level of rights is the citizen has the right to do anything, as long as he does not infringe upon the rights of others. My concept does not extend to the point where one MUST do something.

This resolution is no better than those that think gay people should be "straightened" by forcing them to have sex with a woman - and you don't see many of those around.
Forgottenlands
27-10-2005, 00:36
Really?

Forcing heterosexuals to engage in homosexual activity isn't discriminatory?

Nevermind the fact that it forces people to have sex who might not want to do so regardless of what sex it's with.

I would actually not call that discriminatory.....at least against anything.

I would call it abhorent, unjust, ridiculous, ludicrous, biased, etc because it forces you to have sex and it is specific on the form of sex, but that doesn't mean its discriminatory. It doesn't persecute heterosexuals.

Heck, I wonder if its allowed to sub bi-sexual relations for homosexual ones, then a LOT of guys might be interested ;)
Phenixica
27-10-2005, 12:21
I am sorry if i offend but as Emperor of the holy empire of phenixica i cannot support this and neither can my government i do not mean to offend 2 of my brothers are gay but i cannot except for we are a christian Empire and cannot excpet this proclaimation and if this does have a chance in the U.N i will vote againts it.

Please dont take this into offence

From:Emperor Belcameron Cook II of the phenixican Nation and Colonies.
Cluichstan
27-10-2005, 15:41
The people of Cluichstan fail to understand why we are wasting the UN's time with this matter. The proposal is ludicrous and, as its author already stated, was put forth with tongue in cheek.